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Old 20 July 2010, 12:54   #1
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JST Kickstart 1.3

I was just mucking about and found a old version of JST -JST 0.9c
and was very surprised that this ran on Kickstart 1.3
Of course this is totaly useless but I found it intresting.
Does anyone have JST 1.x

JST V5

http://jotd.pagesperso-orange.fr/amiga.html

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Old 20 July 2010, 19:46   #2
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I have JST 1.4...it's the version I use always
in the zone now
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Old 20 July 2010, 21:18   #3
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Useless on KS1.3 but fun to make JST HD version of Prince Of Persia work from floppy (for instance) provided you have 2MB of memory on your A500.

I'm glad that people still use this program 10 years after.
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Old 20 July 2010, 21:30   #4
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Useless on KS1.3 but fun to make JST HD version of Prince Of Persia work from floppy (for instance) provided you have 2MB of memory on your A500.

I'm glad that people still use this program 10 years after.
It was an excellent program and I learned how to install games using it (with your help)

If anyone is looking for any JST installed games I think I have all the ones I had done as well as many others.
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Old 20 July 2010, 21:41   #5
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Useless on KS1.3 but fun to make JST HD version of Prince Of Persia work from floppy (for instance) provided you have 2MB of memory on your A500.

I'm glad that people still use this program 10 years after.
personally now I always use it as degrader to run some games or aga demos
jst xxx execute nocaches
but sinceraly I don't know why JST lost the battle with whdload
cause your program was better than whdload on ancient times
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Old 20 July 2010, 22:08   #6
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thanks for your support (Hi Abaddon!!)

JST lost the battle when I realized that WHDLoad was way more stable on higher CPUs/MMU/"recent" boards and its simplicity in design ensured a great compatibility for slaves. Its "provide just the minimum function" philosophy helped it to be maintainable, and I was easily converted to WHDLoad (with Harry's great help) when I wanted to code slaves and no longer maintain JST, which was becoming big, buggy, and difficult even to generate (PhxAss bugs?).
WHDLoad offered Kickstart emulation, and I jumped on it too.

Yes, it still has the best degrader mode IMHO (68060 & multiscan support), and on ancient times it was better because of the tons of games supported. It's still of use in some cases (the "save state" mode was great to see in action), but the one who had to win the competition won: whdload and I'm glad it did because Bert is really nice, talented, and the rest of the team is too. The "old guard" made the fame of WHDLoad by adapting the best and thoughest games (Harry, Mr Larmer and ... Wepl)
Then the rest of the team took over to provide the other tough nuts

My only regret is not having started on WHDLoad earlier, because now I would be the one with the highest slave counter

A great adventure and very instructive.

Thanks for your positive comments much appreciated !!

There's no need for 2 programs of this type in 2010, the whdload/OS swap/MMU/"my board does not work"/"game is slow on my PPC" hell is better left to Bert

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Old 21 July 2010, 00:26   #7
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I have JST 1.4...it's the version I use always
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Excellent ill check it out

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Useless on KS1.3 but fun to make JST HD version of Prince Of Persia work from floppy (for instance) provided you have 2MB of memory on your A500.

I'm glad that people still use this program 10 years after.
I tried a few games (Chuck Rock,Street Fighter 2, Addams Family) on a Kick 1.3 setup with JST0.9C AND 1.1 and they worked! I couldnt belive it

Yes a great peace of software I use to get installs from Amiga Format subscription disks and AFCD.

Also some games seem to work on a low spec of 2mb perfectly like Gods with HDLOAD and Street Fighter 2 with Lowmem

Also id like to ask what is the difference between LOWMEM and HDLOAD?

Anyway great bit of software but glad your doing WHDload installs now

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It was an excellent program and I learned how to install games using it (with your help)

If anyone is looking for any JST installed games I think I have all the ones I had done as well as many others.
Yes Please I would be very intrested

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Old 21 July 2010, 05:47   #8
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I'm glad that people still use this program 10 years after.
Yes i still use it to launch some problematic games under WB with "JST Execute" . Couple this with TUDE fiddling and you can "downgrade" pretty good to get some things working.
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JST was great, I even registered back in the day. Still really handy as a degrader..

Jean-Francois - Are you ever going to add that PAL option I asked for?
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I have JST 1.4...it's the version I use always
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Thanks I tried it

The question of can you run WHDload on Kick 1.3 has come up a few times -JST 1.4 has WHDload emulation, tried a few old WHDload Game Slaves under Kick1.3 including Giana Sisters & BC Kid and they worked
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Old 21 July 2010, 23:32   #11
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@booboo:

yup did not remember the whdload emu. Another cool use of JST. Bert must have hated me for that but now that's fixed

About the PAL option, I'm afraid I'll have trouble reassembling the whole shit. Well, I'll try.

The difference between LOWMEM and HDLOAD AFAIR is that HDLOAD does load small files, whereas LOWMEM does not load any files.
Well, the logic is not very logic in those options The documentation must explain that. check that out.

The thing that JST does and what WHDLoad does not is the ability to accept to never return to the OS. In that case, you can run games like 1MB game Magic Pockets on a CD32 where WHDLoad insists to be able to save all memory to return back to WB.

JST sacrifices the quit option in that case and really destroys the WB, but the game runs (or just crashes badly )

Thanks for all the supportive comments matez, that reminds me of cool programming moments.
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I'm uploading the 1st part of my jst installed games to the ftp in the Abaddon folder. I will upload more jst installed games when I get back next week.
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yup did not remember the whdload emu. Another cool use of JST. Bert must have hated me for that but now that's fixed
No reason to be hated, just because you are supporting an API!?
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Old 31 July 2010, 14:10   #14
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Well, my emulation completely ignored the "must be registered" flag of some slaves. So you could play those games with WHDLoad registered, or JST unregistered.
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I'm uploading the 1st part of my jst installed games to the ftp in the Abaddon folder. I will upload more jst installed games when I get back next week.
Thanks Dude ill check it out as soon as possible - Ive bad access here in the Sticks -What folder is it in? Abaddon on the FTP seemed empty.

Think ive got it on the file server
JST Installed Games.rar
/Games/WHDLoad
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Hello ,

is there a Goal! version using jst ?

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no Goal version, but try WHDload slave of Goal with JST. Emulation works sometimes
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Theres two GOAL installs here -Ive not tried them
http://home.wanadoo.nl/robertoh/g.html
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Did not remember I wrote one myself You'll need a cracked version to use it, or try WHDLoad slave with WHDLoad emulation mode of JST
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Theres two GOAL installs here -Ive not tried them
http://home.wanadoo.nl/robertoh/g.html

Thanks a lot Boo Boo

will have now to know how to install them...
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