Cf to IDE cards

Megamix · 02 September 2009, 22:04

Hi My Hard drive has gone belly up,and i`m thinking of getting one of these anybody used this type.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Dual-Compact-F...d=p3286.c0.m14

Thanks in advance

prowler · 02 September 2009, 22:09

Hi Megamix,

This is a very versatile adapter and takes 1 or 2 CF cards. I have one which will connect to my A1200's external IDE connector, which I normally use for external CD-ROM drive or hard drive.

CF cards can be equal size or dissimilar, and are seen by the Amiga as two drives connected as Master and Slave.

asm1 · 02 September 2009, 22:10

I've got one of those

Arrived this morning. If you have a 3.5 inch HDD then thats fine, if it is 2.5" then you need a 44 pin adapter... I think that ebay seller has them as well (its where I bought mine)

Megamix · 02 September 2009, 22:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by asm1

I've got one of those

Arrived this morning. If you have a 3.5 inch HDD then thats fine, if it is 2.5" then you need a 44 pin adapter... I think that ebay seller has them as well (its where I bought mine)

thanks guys , but whats the adaptor is that the 2.5 to 2.5 cable ? sorry but this is something new to me (being the old typ user

) does this not just conect via the cable to the board etc:?

any links ?

Thanks again.

Ive got a 60 gig 2.5 Hard drive but I need IDEfix or something for that and I cant find that...

Shadowfire · 02 September 2009, 22:25

I purchased four of these for testing in my IDE controller. The solder job is not high quality, but given the cost, I was happy with the fact that they actually worked at all.

I can't even get just the CFA connector on this board for that price, at any of the distributors in the US, at any quantity.

prowler · 02 September 2009, 22:30

My external IDE connector is mounted on the left side of my A1200 just behind the PCMCIA socket. It is connected internally to the secondary channel of a 4-way buffered IDE interface, which connects to the motherboard via a 44-way data cable.

The 4-way IDE interface has a 44-pin connector for the primary channel, to which I have my main hard drive connected, and 44-pin and 40-pin connectors for the secondary channel, and I have my external connector connected to tyhe 40-pin connector.

My external devices require an external power source (I use an old AT PSU).

My A1200 has IDEfix installed. I can upload it to the Zone for you if you wish to try it.

Megamix · 02 September 2009, 22:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by prowler

My external IDE connector is mounted on the left side of my A1200 just behind the PCMCIA socket. It is connected internally to the secondary channel of a 4-way buffered IDE interface, which connects to the motherboard via a 44-way data cable.

The 4-way IDE interface has a 44-pin connector for the primary channel, to which I have my main hard drive connected, and 44-pin and 40-pin connectors for the secondary channel, and I have my external connector connected to tyhe 40-pin connector.

My external devices require an external power source (I use an old AT PSU).

My A1200 has IDEfix installed. I can upload it to the Zone for you if you wish to try it.

I`d like to try IDEfix, i read some of the post and its hard to find were to buy it from now, but yes please upload it thank you.

prowler · 02 September 2009, 22:57

IDEfix97 is in the Zone for you!

alexh · 02 September 2009, 23:32

If you have an A1200 or A600 then this is not the right type of adapter to get, you should either get one of these:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=290340147407

As they do not need a cable and just plug straight into the motherboard. However they are not compatible (due to clearance) with some expansions so you might want to get one of these :

http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.10310

If you have an A4000 you should REALLY get one of these

http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.10311

They make the CF card accessible without taking the box to bits to get at it.

PowerPie5000 · 03 September 2009, 00:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexh

If you have an A1200 or A600 then this is not the right type of adapter to get, you should either get one of these:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=290340147407

As they do not need a cable and just plug straight into the motherboard. However they are not compatible (due to clearance) with some expansions so you might want to get one of these :

http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.10310

If you have an A4000 you should REALLY get one of these

http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.10311

They make the CF card accessible without taking the box to bits to get at it.

So i guess these are ok for Amiga's? For some reason i always thought you needed a CF adapter that was specifically designed for Amiga hardware... but i suppose the basic IDE bus is pretty much the same in any system?

prowler · 03 September 2009, 00:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by PowerPie5000

So i guess these are ok for Amiga's? For some reason i always thought you needed a CF adapter that was specifically designed for Amiga hardware... but i suppose the basic IDE bus is pretty much the same in any system?

Yep. AFAIK, there are no specific types for Amiga, or any other platform.

PowerPie5000 · 03 September 2009, 00:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by prowler

Yep. AFAIK, there are no specific types for Amiga, or any other platform.

Thats great to hear! so now i can get a cheap CF adapter for around £3 and then get a 4gb Kingston CF card for around £8 - Thats a total of just £11 compared to other places that sell these kits for the Amiga at around £20+

(i already have short IDE ribbons too

)

prowler · 03 September 2009, 00:59

Hey, wait!

CF cards are a different matter. Although there are no specific recommendations regarding their suitability, EAB user experience indicates that SanDisk cards are the most compatible with Amigas, both in CF-IDE and CF-PCMCIA adapters.

So it could be worth getting a 4GB Sandisk instead, even if it costs a little more.

alexh · 03 September 2009, 01:03

I thought the compatibility with CF cards was limited to PCMCIA adapters but I could be wrong.

Yes the Amiga (or rather the drivers) don't seem to like CF cards which identify themselves as "removable" IDE devices. Some SAN DISK cards you can convert to non removable in software using an x86 PC with onboard IDE.

PowerPie5000 · 03 September 2009, 01:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by prowler

Hey, wait!

CF cards are a different matter. Although there are no specific recommendations regarding their suitability, EAB user experience indicates that SanDisk cards are the most compatible with Amigas, both in CF-IDE and CF-PCMCIA adapters.

So it could be worth getting a 4GB Sandisk instead, even if it costs a little more.

I think the 4gb Kingston CF cards are fine with A1200's as there is a seller on ebay called "ChaoticJelly" who sell's them as part of a kit for the A600/1200... but i could try a Sandisk just to be perfectly safe

I will be replacing my 2.5" hard drive with a CF card via IDE-CF adapter.... and then fill it up with WHDload goodness

I will use a PCMCIA-CF adapter for transferring files from my PC to the A1200. I will also probably have to disable my Magnum board when transferring files as i'm pretty sure the PCMCIA port on A1200's does not work with more than 4mb ram?

alexh · 03 September 2009, 01:18

Just remember to set your MAXTRANSFER size correctly for IDE devices when you prep your card if you have not done it for a while or everything will seem to work and then you will loose data.

PowerPie5000 · 03 September 2009, 01:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexh

Just remember to set your MAXTRANSFER size correctly for IDE devices when you prep your card if you have not done it for a while or everything will seem to work and then you will loose data.

I will have to look into that... thanks for the tip! Nothing more annoying than setting everything up perfectly just for it to backfire!

Eclipse · 03 September 2009, 02:04

There used to be a guide or something somewhere.

prowler · 03 September 2009, 02:22

Did you mean this EAB thread?
Prepping compactflash as IDE drive

PowerPie5000 · 03 September 2009, 20:08

Just a quick one.... does the hard drive led still work using a CF card?

02 September 2009, 22:04	#1
Megamix Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: St.Helens, Merseyside UK Age: 63 Posts: 184	Cf to IDE cards Hi My Hard drive has gone belly up,and i`m thinking of getting one of these anybody used this type. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Dual-Compact-F...d=p3286.c0.m14 Thanks in advance

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02 September 2009, 22:09	#2
prowler Global Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sidcup, England Posts: 10,300	Hi Megamix, This is a very versatile adapter and takes 1 or 2 CF cards. I have one which will connect to my A1200's external IDE connector, which I normally use for external CD-ROM drive or hard drive. CF cards can be equal size or dissimilar, and are seen by the Amiga as two drives connected as Master and Slave.

02 September 2009, 22:10	#3
asm1 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Glasgow, Scotland Age: 44 Posts: 637	I've got one of those Arrived this morning. If you have a 3.5 inch HDD then thats fine, if it is 2.5" then you need a 44 pin adapter... I think that ebay seller has them as well (its where I bought mine)

02 September 2009, 22:25	#5
Shadowfire Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Connecticut USA Posts: 617	I purchased four of these for testing in my IDE controller. The solder job is not high quality, but given the cost, I was happy with the fact that they actually worked at all. I can't even get just the CFA connector* on this board for that price, at any of the distributors in the US, at any quantity.*

02 September 2009, 22:30	#6
prowler Global Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sidcup, England Posts: 10,300	My external IDE connector is mounted on the left side of my A1200 just behind the PCMCIA socket. It is connected internally to the secondary channel of a 4-way buffered IDE interface, which connects to the motherboard via a 44-way data cable. The 4-way IDE interface has a 44-pin connector for the primary channel, to which I have my main hard drive connected, and 44-pin and 40-pin connectors for the secondary channel, and I have my external connector connected to tyhe 40-pin connector. My external devices require an external power source (I use an old AT PSU). My A1200 has IDEfix installed. I can upload it to the Zone for you if you wish to try it.

02 September 2009, 22:57	#8
prowler Global Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sidcup, England Posts: 10,300	IDEfix97 is in the Zone for you!

02 September 2009, 23:32	#9
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,354	If you have an A1200 or A600 then this is not the right type of adapter to get, you should either get one of these: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=290340147407 As they do not need a cable and just plug straight into the motherboard. However they are not compatible (due to clearance) with some expansions so you might want to get one of these : http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.10310 If you have an A4000 you should REALLY get one of these http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.10311 They make the CF card accessible without taking the box to bits to get at it.

03 September 2009, 00:59	#13
prowler Global Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sidcup, England Posts: 10,300	Hey, wait! CF cards are a different matter. Although there are no specific recommendations regarding their suitability, EAB user experience indicates that SanDisk cards are the most compatible with Amigas, both in CF-IDE and CF-PCMCIA adapters. So it could be worth getting a 4GB Sandisk instead, even if it costs a little more.

03 September 2009, 01:03	#14
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,354	I thought the compatibility with CF cards was limited to PCMCIA adapters but I could be wrong. Yes the Amiga (or rather the drivers) don't seem to like CF cards which identify themselves as "removable" IDE devices. Some SAN DISK cards you can convert to non removable in software using an x86 PC with onboard IDE.

03 September 2009, 01:18	#16
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,354	Just remember to set your MAXTRANSFER size correctly for IDE devices when you prep your card if you have not done it for a while or everything will seem to work and then you will loose data.

03 September 2009, 02:04	#18
Eclipse Turpentine Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Kent, United Kingdom Posts: 744	There used to be a guide or something somewhere.

03 September 2009, 02:22	#19
prowler Global Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sidcup, England Posts: 10,300	Did you mean this EAB thread? Prepping compactflash as IDE drive

03 September 2009, 20:08	#20
PowerPie5000 Miggy Ate My Hamster! Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Lancashire, UK Posts: 1,566	Just a quick one.... does the hard drive led still work using a CF card?

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