Warning regarding APC-TCP

BuZz · 26 February 2008, 12:47

Just a heads up for anyone else running into this guy:

http://www.exotica.org.uk/forum/view...hp?p=4356#4356

If anyone else has any kind of agreement with him regarding hosting files or anything you might want to read this.
(I realise the person involved does use this forum sometimes, but I believe this information should be public)

killergorilla · 26 February 2008, 14:52

Well that made interesting reading.

Obviously I've had similar experience in the past but cheers for the link.

DDNI · 26 February 2008, 15:23

perhaps the coverage of exotica.org.uk in Micro mart has stirred his attention?

alexh · 26 February 2008, 15:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by DDNI

perhaps the coverage of exotica.org.uk in Micro mart has stirred his attention?

Yeah? MM was my fav magazine back in the bad old days. Best place to find new people to swap disks with, buy and sell Amiga bits n bobs etc.

DDNI · 26 February 2008, 16:04

Yes the Amiga section this week looks at exoctica.

BuZz · 26 February 2008, 18:16

your shitting me ? /me runs to the shop

Famous at last !!1!1!11 OMG!!11!!

DDNI · 26 February 2008, 18:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by BuZz

your shitting me ? /me runs to the shop

Famous at last !!1!1!11 OMG!!11!!

Yup, it is the edition with a motherboard feature on the cover.

BuZz · 26 February 2008, 19:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by DDNI

Yup, it is the edition with a motherboard feature on the cover.

I got it. thanks!

Galahad/FLT · 26 February 2008, 20:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by BuZz

Just a heads up for anyone else running into this guy:

http://www.exotica.org.uk/forum/view...hp?p=4356#4356

If anyone else has any kind of agreement with him regarding hosting files or anything you might want to read this.
(I realise the person involved does use this forum sometimes, but I believe this information should be public)

I'd be interested to know what music he is claiming he owns.

eLowar · 26 February 2008, 20:02

The same 3 tunes that were in the first GameBase Amiga Music pack.

http://www.exotica.org.uk/wiki/1990_...3%27er_Edition
http://www.exotica.org.uk/wiki/Jaktar_-_Der_Elfenstein
http://www.exotica.org.uk/wiki/Marblelous

Copied from BuZz's first post at ExoticA.

plasmatron · 26 February 2008, 20:05

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Zetr0 · 26 February 2008, 20:15

@Plasmatron

lol, don't hold anything back... tell them how you really feel.

I try to have empathy in this matter, but I have to admit, he does have a way of rubbing people the wrong way.

viddi · 26 February 2008, 20:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by plasmatron

[Deleted by Cody]

The wording of these sentences seems rather unfortunate.

This is not the common EAB style...

CodyJarrett · 26 February 2008, 20:54

I've deleted the post with the insults. Please keep it civil!

Galahad/FLT · 26 February 2008, 21:30

How the hell can he claim copyright on Jester/Sanitys tunes?

BuZz · 26 February 2008, 21:36

Yeh. I'm sure Volker would have kept his artistic copyright on the works themselves.

Galahad/FLT · 26 February 2008, 22:52

Jester is still doing music as far as i am aware, should be easy enough to track down.

Webhosters are too bloody quick to delete things or threaten customers when some idiot complains.

I fail to see how Jesters work could be this guys copyright.

Personally speaking, i'd be inclined to go right ahead and remove any references to APC-TCP until they provide solid proof.

IFW · 27 February 2008, 03:27

Fyi: publishing rights are normally for one time usage only and for limited time, not "forever". Unless it got re-contracted and the authors still recieve their payments - which I honestly doubt.

FromWithin · 27 February 2008, 04:32

Music for games has almost always been as a work for hire. That means that the composer retains no rights whatsoever.

AndreasM · 27 February 2008, 09:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by IFW

Fyi: publishing rights are normally for one time usage only and for limited time, not "forever". Unless it got re-contracted and the authors still recieve their payments - which I honestly doubt.

every company make other contracts. our publishing contracts run unlimited and must cancel from one contract-member.

but for this 3 games... we have first publish the games and later we have buy all rights from the games complete.

26 February 2008, 12:47	#1
BuZz Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Oxford / UK Age: 47 Posts: 583	Warning regarding APC-TCP Just a heads up for anyone else running into this guy: http://www.exotica.org.uk/forum/view...hp?p=4356#4356 If anyone else has any kind of agreement with him regarding hosting files or anything you might want to read this. (I realise the person involved does use this forum sometimes, but I believe this information should be public)

26 February 2008, 20:05	#11
plasmatron Zone Friend Join Date: May 2003 Location: Germany Age: 48 Posts: 967	[Deleted by Cody] Last edited by CodyJarrett; 26 February 2008 at 20:53. Reason: Insults

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26 February 2008, 14:52	#2
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 42 Posts: 7,957	Well that made interesting reading. Obviously I've had similar experience in the past but cheers for the link.

26 February 2008, 15:23	#3
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26 February 2008, 16:04	#5
DDNI Targ Explorer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 5,432	Yes the Amiga section this week looks at exoctica.

26 February 2008, 18:16	#6
BuZz Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Oxford / UK Age: 47 Posts: 583	your shitting me ? /me runs to the shop Famous at last !!1!1!11 OMG!!11!!

26 February 2008, 20:02	#10
eLowar Citizen of Elthesh Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: UK Posts: 949	The same 3 tunes that were in the first GameBase Amiga Music pack. http://www.exotica.org.uk/wiki/1990_...3%27er_Edition http://www.exotica.org.uk/wiki/Jaktar_-_Der_Elfenstein http://www.exotica.org.uk/wiki/Marblelous Copied from BuZz's first post at ExoticA.

26 February 2008, 20:15	#12
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	@Plasmatron lol, don't hold anything back... tell them how you really feel. I try to have empathy in this matter, but I have to admit, he does have a way of rubbing people the wrong way.

26 February 2008, 20:54	#14
CodyJarrett Global Moderator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: UK Age: 46 Posts: 6,161	I've deleted the post with the insults. Please keep it civil!

26 February 2008, 21:30	#15
Galahad/FLT Going nowhere Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: United Kingdom Age: 50 Posts: 9,011	How the hell can he claim copyright on Jester/Sanitys tunes?

26 February 2008, 21:36	#16
BuZz Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Oxford / UK Age: 47 Posts: 583	Yeh. I'm sure Volker would have kept his artistic copyright on the works themselves.

26 February 2008, 22:52	#17
Galahad/FLT Going nowhere Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: United Kingdom Age: 50 Posts: 9,011	Jester is still doing music as far as i am aware, should be easy enough to track down. Webhosters are too bloody quick to delete things or threaten customers when some idiot complains. I fail to see how Jesters work could be this guys copyright. Personally speaking, i'd be inclined to go right ahead and remove any references to APC-TCP until they provide solid proof.

27 February 2008, 03:27	#18
IFW Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: ... Age: 52 Posts: 1,838	Fyi: publishing rights are normally for one time usage only and for limited time, not "forever". Unless it got re-contracted and the authors still recieve their payments - which I honestly doubt.

27 February 2008, 04:32	#19
FromWithin Music lord Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Liverpool, UK Age: 50 Posts: 630	Music for games has almost always been as a work for hire. That means that the composer retains no rights whatsoever.

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