PCMCIA Network card advice!!!

ElectroBlaster · 07 April 2002, 19:47

Hi guys!

Ok i want to add ethernet to my 1200 and have been looking at these pcmcia nic cards and the reset fix I have to sort out!

I have a compatible list (which is a little bit out of date) so I have a pretty good idea which one's work and dont etc...

My local pc contact/supplier can get me this one:

CNet CNF401 10/100Mbps RJ45 32bit PCMCIA Network Card

I need to know if this is incompatible or if anyone knows any decent links on this subject!

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Frog · 07 April 2002, 23:01

if it's NE2000 compatible then it should works. BTW no need to do hardware modification to get a reset card. Just grab CardReset on aminet.

jmmijo · 07 April 2002, 23:19

Quote:

Originally posted by Frog
if it's NE2000 compatible then it should works. BTW no need to do hardware modification to get a reset card. Just grab CardReset on aminet.

Good info frog, now, does this little app also work on other Amiga models?

rgen · 08 April 2002, 10:36

I don't know this card but it should not work because you wrote it is a 32 bit card (cardbus interface ?) and Amiga's PCMCIA slots are only 16 bit interfaces !!!

RetroMan · 08 April 2002, 18:55

.... and btw. not ALL Ne2000 compatible cards work on an A1200

ElectroBlaster · 08 April 2002, 19:14

So what your saying is it should be 16bit and when stocks of these cards dry up! the amiga 1200 is dead in the water as far as ethernet goes

unless you buy an add on board like the AmigaOne etc...

all i want to do is network my 1200 to our pc's for file sharing!
i forgot about the pcmcia slot being only 16bit

why cant these 32bit cards be backwards compatible?

Bloodwych · 08 April 2002, 20:24

You could try the parallel port solution. £15 and you get direct access to all your PC devices just like a true network.

For all the info you'll need, read this thread:

Parallel PC2Amiga network solution

If you have any questions regarding the above, then ask them here!

Here is a quote from the above thread containing some info on the subject (I love quoting myself!

) :

Quote:

Well I’ve got the Amiga-PC parallel link-up kit and a Competition Pro this morning.

The Pro is built like a tank but a little stiff for my liking. I’m sure that either a few games of BattleSquadron (Novabombs) or showing it a picture of Margaret Thatcher will transform that newbie Comp Pro stiffness into putty in my hands.

The parallel linkup kit has been my best Amiga purchase for a long time. For a mere £15, I’ve got a decent PC-Amiga network pushing speeds of around 22-40 KBYTE/sec depending on if reading or writing! Best of all however is that my PC is now the Amigas bitch , with the miggi being the master and the PC the dominated slave.

I’m very impressed with the software. A simple Pcdrive icon on my WB gives me direct access to all the PC drives for reading, writing or extra storage space. Brilliant!! The simplicity and power of the Amiga WB always amazes me.

ElectroBlaster · 08 April 2002, 21:33

Quote:

You could try the parallel port solution. £15 and you get direct access to all your PC devices just like a true network.

Nah m8! ive been down this route already and its just to dam unreliable for me

my amiga worked fine the other day and now pc2amiga is dead again??????????

it just wont work this time! it keeps timing out? same settings as the other day too. im whacking workbench back on but i know it wont last if it works again

its time for a REAL network where it will work everytime i need it.

Bloodwych · 08 April 2002, 21:42

Oh someone slap me!

How could I forget your "PC2Ami problems" thread I posted in a couple of days ago!

Please forgive my pathetic idiocy electro! Sometimes I read threads without looking who posted them.

*hits himself several times*

Yep, that's better.

RetroMan · 08 April 2002, 21:55

Try to get a Fiberline 4680 (hope that´s the right one

) ! It´s really cheap and definitely works with the A1200 ! Or try to get one of that compatability list you got from ebay, should be really cheap

ElectroBlaster · 08 April 2002, 22:02

Hey Blood! no worrys old chap

if it works for you then dont change it... just ive had bad luck with it

but then again this is the one from Aminet, not the kit you bought m8!

Quote:

RetroMan

have you got any links for this card m8? sounds like you had good luck with it

RetroMan · 08 April 2002, 22:10

Sorry, but I don´t use that one

I got myself a noname PCMCIA 10MBit card and it works fine, but I know the Fiberline works cause a lot of people report it does

ElectroBlaster · 08 April 2002, 22:12

where did you get your card m8?

has it got any numbers on it...

RetroMan · 08 April 2002, 22:16

Nope

It is a really NONAME card !! Only thing on the front side is "10 Base Ethernet" and "PC CARD" and I bough it at a local dealer for my Laptop, but found out it works on my A1200

Frog · 08 April 2002, 22:25

Quote:

Originally posted by jmmijo

Good info frog, now, does this little app also work on other Amiga models?

Well, the CardReset.readme tell it need an A600/A1200.

Oh and about the network card itself, you can find useful (?) info on cnetdevice archive. Here is a link with latest cnetdevice : http://adsl-100-156.kymp.net/~p/sw/cnetdevice-1.7.lha

Amiga1992 · 09 April 2002, 05:06

Here goes an advice and a request for help, at the same time

3Com cards wont work. They have plastic thing on their borders that wont make it fit onto the lsot. Seems they dont like to follow PCMCIA2.0 standards :P

Any other card you guys can recommend me?

fiath · 09 April 2002, 17:05

Quote:

Originally posted by Frog
if it's NE2000 compatible then it should works. BTW no need to do hardware modification to get a reset card. Just grab CardReset on aminet.

Or you can just pull the PCMCIA Card out and put it back in again after booting up for the first time like I do.

Quote:

Originally posted by ElectroBlaster
So what your saying is it should be 16bit and when stocks of these cards dry up! the amiga 1200 is dead in the water as far as ethernet goes unless you buy an add on board like the AmigaOne etc...

I bought my PCMCIA ethernet card on eBay for £20 - they are tons of them about - don't worry about them drying up - mine was brand new! (16-bit ones are cheaper I guess)

Quote:

Originally posted by Akira

Any other card you guys can recommend me?

The card I bought is a "Kingston KNE-PC2T", and it works flawlessly!

I can not recommend it enough - basically because it works

Bloodwych · 10 April 2002, 10:28

How fast is the connection using these cards and a 020 A1200 on read/write?

EDIT: I've just read speeds are around 350K/s. Sound right?

fiath · 10 April 2002, 14:25

Well, I currently only use Amiga ethernet to FTP CAPS dumps over to my PC. Therefore I only use FTP programs.

System config (and the only one I have tried):

Amiga 1200 /w Blizzard 030@50Mhz
Genesis TCP/IP (the one that comes with OS3.9)
Transferring off a 3.5" 540Mb HD

In SimpleFTP I get about 40 Kbytes/s (!!!)
In GUI-FTP I get 250Kbytes/s

So you see the speed very much depends on your software as well as your hardware. However it would probably be a lot faster transferring from RAM.

Problem is - GUI-FTP does not support transferring multiple files stupidly enough. Can anyone recommend a better FTP program?

- Aha! I just found "ncFTP" for the Amiga... I use this at work - it rocks - and is meant to be the fastest Amiga client... I will test this soon.

Anyway believe me, once you have tasted even 250 Kbytes/s - you will never be able to go back

RetroMan · 10 April 2002, 15:00

@fiath

How about installing SMB-Connect on your Amiga and mount your PC Drives on your Miggy

Then you won´t need ANY ftp programm anymore and can even use your PC´s CDRom

07 April 2002, 19:47	#1
ElectroBlaster Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Exeter, Devon, UK Age: 49 Posts: 1,711	PCMCIA Network card advice!!! Hi guys! Ok i want to add ethernet to my 1200 and have been looking at these pcmcia nic cards and the reset fix I have to sort out! I have a compatible list (which is a little bit out of date) so I have a pretty good idea which one's work and dont etc... My local pc contact/supplier can get me this one: CNet CNF401 10/100Mbps RJ45 32bit PCMCIA Network Card I need to know if this is incompatible or if anyone knows any decent links on this subject! //admin: please don't use direct signature in your post, configure your UserCP instead.

08 April 2002, 19:14	#6
ElectroBlaster Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Exeter, Devon, UK Age: 49 Posts: 1,711	So what your saying is it should be 16bit and when stocks of these cards dry up! the amiga 1200 is dead in the water as far as ethernet goes unless you buy an add on board like the AmigaOne etc... all i want to do is network my 1200 to our pc's for file sharing! i forgot about the pcmcia slot being only 16bit why cant these 32bit cards be backwards compatible? Last edited by ElectroBlaster; 08 April 2002 at 19:19.

10 April 2002, 10:28	#18
Bloodwych Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: I'm behind you! Posts: 3,763	How fast is the connection using these cards and a 020 A1200 on read/write? EDIT: I've just read speeds are around 350K/s. Sound right? Last edited by Bloodwych; 10 April 2002 at 13:36.

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07 April 2002, 23:01	#2
Frog Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: France Posts: 1,385	if it's NE2000 compatible then it should works. BTW no need to do hardware modification to get a reset card. Just grab CardReset on aminet.

08 April 2002, 10:36	#4
rgen Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Aachen/Germany Age: 46 Posts: 190	I don't know this card but it should not work because you wrote it is a 32 bit card (cardbus interface ?) and Amiga's PCMCIA slots are only 16 bit interfaces !!!

08 April 2002, 18:55	#5
RetroMan Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Germany Age: 51 Posts: 3,704	.... and btw. not ALL Ne2000 compatible cards work on an A1200

08 April 2002, 21:42	#9
Bloodwych Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: I'm behind you! Posts: 3,763	Oh someone slap me! How could I forget your "PC2Ami problems" thread I posted in a couple of days ago! Please forgive my pathetic idiocy electro! Sometimes I read threads without looking who posted them. hits himself several times Yep, that's better.

08 April 2002, 21:55	#10
RetroMan Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Germany Age: 51 Posts: 3,704	Try to get a Fiberline 4680 (hope that´s the right one ) ! It´s really cheap and definitely works with the A1200 ! Or try to get one of that compatability list you got from ebay, should be really cheap

08 April 2002, 22:10	#12
RetroMan Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Germany Age: 51 Posts: 3,704	Sorry, but I don´t use that one I got myself a noname PCMCIA 10MBit card and it works fine, but I know the Fiberline works cause a lot of people report it does

08 April 2002, 22:12	#13
ElectroBlaster Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Exeter, Devon, UK Age: 49 Posts: 1,711	where did you get your card m8? has it got any numbers on it...

08 April 2002, 22:16	#14
RetroMan Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Germany Age: 51 Posts: 3,704	Nope It is a really NONAME card !! Only thing on the front side is "10 Base Ethernet" and "PC CARD" and I bough it at a local dealer for my Laptop, but found out it works on my A1200

09 April 2002, 05:06	#16
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,646	Here goes an advice and a request for help, at the same time 3Com cards wont work. They have plastic thing on their borders that wont make it fit onto the lsot. Seems they dont like to follow PCMCIA2.0 standards :P Any other card you guys can recommend me?

10 April 2002, 14:25	#19
fiath Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: South East / UK Age: 46 Posts: 1,930	Well, I currently only use Amiga ethernet to FTP CAPS dumps over to my PC. Therefore I only use FTP programs. System config (and the only one I have tried): Amiga 1200 /w Blizzard 030@50Mhz Genesis TCP/IP (the one that comes with OS3.9) Transferring off a 3.5" 540Mb HD In SimpleFTP I get about 40 Kbytes/s (!!!) In GUI-FTP I get 250Kbytes/s So you see the speed very much depends on your software as well as your hardware. However it would probably be a lot faster transferring from RAM. Problem is - GUI-FTP does not support transferring multiple files stupidly enough. Can anyone recommend a better FTP program? - Aha! I just found "ncFTP" for the Amiga... I use this at work - it rocks - and is meant to be the fastest Amiga client... I will test this soon. Anyway believe me, once you have tasted even 250 Kbytes/s - you will never be able to go back

10 April 2002, 15:00	#20
RetroMan Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Germany Age: 51 Posts: 3,704	@fiath How about installing SMB-Connect on your Amiga and mount your PC Drives on your Miggy Then you won´t need ANY ftp programm anymore and can even use your PC´s CDRom

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