Whdload, ACA500 Plus and Cannon Fodder

Big Supes · 28 January 2018, 16:03

Does anyone have any idea why Cannon Fodder is saying I need chip memory up to $110000 (1088 kbyte) run to this program?

Pic attached.

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DamienD · 28 January 2018, 16:25

Thread moved from the Amiga scene section to a more appropriate one Big Supes

Retro-Nerd · 28 January 2018, 16:32

The error message seems clear to me. You don't have enough chipram free to start the game (1088 KiB).

r.cade · 28 January 2018, 17:40

Close the window with all the folders in it. That will return most of your chip RAM back to you...

Galahad/FLT · 28 January 2018, 17:59

Check out the zone, this install I wrote in 2001!

I have reduced chip memory requirements down to 1meg, and shifted the extra memory requirements to other memory instead.

Galahad/FLT · 28 January 2018, 19:01

Hold that thought, wrong pissing slave in the archive!

Galahad/FLT · 28 January 2018, 19:22

Right, right one this time! Grrrrrr

retrogamer · 28 January 2018, 20:58

But the capture show CannonFodderNewCampain does the new slave support it?

Retroplay · 28 January 2018, 21:17

Yes it does.

Galahad/FLT · 28 January 2018, 23:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by retrogamer

But the capture show CannonFodderNewCampain does the new slave support it?

Cannon Fodder New Campaign is based on my WHDLoad installed version of Cannon Fodder, so it should naturally work

DamienD · 28 January 2018, 23:34

I wouldn't trust him retrogamer; what goes he know, he's just an amateur

Isn't that right Sir Galahad - the legend?

8 Bit Dreams · 29 January 2018, 09:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Supes

Does anyone have any idea why Cannon Fodder is saying I need chip memory up to $110000 (1088 kbyte) run to this program?

Pic attached.

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Just add a trapdoor expansion and mod it to ChipRAM, then you can run that game
That's what I've done

Big Supes · 29 January 2018, 22:42

Thanks for the responses. I already have my trap door ram added and switched on via the ACA500 Plus menu. In sysinfo it says 512 under memory and on the next page it says 1mb chip ram.

I would have thought it would have been enough to run the game.

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Retro-Nerd · 29 January 2018, 23:24

If it's really 1088 KiB, this would mean you need 1114 Kilobyte chipram free.

Quote:

WHDLoad Slave information
CF.Slave - 04.05.1980 12:31:32 - 2220 bytes
required WHDLoad version 10
flags Disk NoError EmulTrap
required Chip Memory 1088 KiB ($110000)

I assume Galahad's updated patch works fine now with less ram free (needs app. 1000 Kilobyte free). How much chipram shows your WB, after booting and opening the game folder?

Galahad/FLT · 30 January 2018, 01:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Supes

Thanks for the responses. I already have my trap door ram added and switched on via the ACA500 Plus menu. In sysinfo it says 512 under memory and on the next page it says 1mb chip ram.

I would have thought it would have been enough to run the game.

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512 what? K or MB?

Have you tried the updated slave I put in the zone? Its also now live on WHDLoad.de, i've reduced the chip memory requirements to just 1meg of chip ram.

If Cannon Fodder still doesn't work, then you need to remove the PRELOAD option from the icon, because if I understand you correctly, you only have 1.5meg of ram total on your machine, and thats just not enough.

Retro-Nerd · 30 January 2018, 01:25

ACA 500 plus has 8MB ram. Together with the integrated 512 KB slowram expansion as Chipram (via ACA options) it should be enough for Cannon Fodder. At least with your latest patch.

Galahad/FLT · 30 January 2018, 02:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd

ACA 500 plus has 8MB ram. Together with the integrated 512 KB slowram expansion as Chipram (via ACA options) it should be enough for Cannon Fodder. At least with your latest patch.

What type of ram is the 8mb? All chip or a combination of chip and fast?

Retro-Nerd · 30 January 2018, 02:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galahad/FLT

What type of ram is the 8mb? All chip or a combination of chip and fast?

I guess 8 MB fastram. And you can use your 512 KB trapdoor expansion as chipram, which gives you 1 MB chipram then. Of course you need at least an ECS Agnus Amiga.

edit: Just read use can use 7 MB as fastram. 1 MB is probably for map rom stuff.

Big Supes · 17 June 2018, 20:54

Thread bump. Does anyone know if there is a way to increase the chipmem on my Amiga? There seems to be a few games in whdload that require over 1mb which leaves me just shy.

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jotd · 17 June 2018, 21:41

list the non-AGA whdload slaves that need more than 1MB chip for ECS slaves?

I don't see a justification apart from Primal Rage.

EDIT: I could scan the slaves myself, I have built some python tools to analyse whdload slaves.

28 January 2018, 16:03	#1
Big Supes Registered User Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Hampshire, UK Posts: 16	Whdload, ACA500 Plus and Cannon Fodder Does anyone have any idea why Cannon Fodder is saying I need chip memory up to $110000 (1088 kbyte) run to this program? Pic attached. Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk

28 January 2018, 16:32	#3
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,438	The error message seems clear to me. You don't have enough chipram free to start the game (1088 KiB). Last edited by Retro-Nerd; 28 January 2018 at 17:01.

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r.cade Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Augusta, Georgia, USA Posts: 550	Close the window with all the folders in it. That will return most of your chip RAM back to you...

28 January 2018, 17:59	#5
Galahad/FLT Going nowhere Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: United Kingdom Age: 50 Posts: 8,986	Check out the zone, this install I wrote in 2001! I have reduced chip memory requirements down to 1meg, and shifted the extra memory requirements to other memory instead.

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Galahad/FLT Going nowhere Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: United Kingdom Age: 50 Posts: 8,986	Hold that thought, wrong pissing slave in the archive!

28 January 2018, 19:22	#7
Galahad/FLT Going nowhere Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: United Kingdom Age: 50 Posts: 8,986	Right, right one this time! Grrrrrr

28 January 2018, 20:58	#8
retrogamer Zone Friend Join Date: May 2006 Location: Sweden Age: 44 Posts: 320	But the capture show CannonFodderNewCampain does the new slave support it?

28 January 2018, 21:17	#9
Retroplay Lemon Curry ? Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Denmark Age: 49 Posts: 4,079	Yes it does.

28 January 2018, 23:34	#11
DamienD Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London / Sydney Age: 47 Posts: 20,420	I wouldn't trust him retrogamer; what goes he know, he's just an amateur Isn't that right Sir Galahad - the legend?

29 January 2018, 22:42	#13
Big Supes Registered User Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Hampshire, UK Posts: 16	Thanks for the responses. I already have my trap door ram added and switched on via the ACA500 Plus menu. In sysinfo it says 512 under memory and on the next page it says 1mb chip ram. I would have thought it would have been enough to run the game. Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk

30 January 2018, 01:25	#16
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,438	ACA 500 plus has 8MB ram. Together with the integrated 512 KB slowram expansion as Chipram (via ACA options) it should be enough for Cannon Fodder. At least with your latest patch.

17 June 2018, 20:54	#19
Big Supes Registered User Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Hampshire, UK Posts: 16	Thread bump. Does anyone know if there is a way to increase the chipmem on my Amiga? There seems to be a few games in whdload that require over 1mb which leaves me just shy. Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk

17 June 2018, 21:41	#20
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,164	list the non-AGA whdload slaves that need more than 1MB chip for ECS slaves? I don't see a justification apart from Primal Rage. EDIT: I could scan the slaves myself, I have built some python tools to analyse whdload slaves.

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