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Old 24 November 2008, 11:32   #1
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A500plus - warranty seals intact...

I've just been given a 500plus from my father in law. It's working, needs a bit of a clean up, but still has the battery in it...

So the battery needs to come out.

But the warranty seals are still intact!

Part of me wants to keep the seals. Has anyone had any success getting these off after so many years? We used to use a kettle to try and steam 'em off in the shops I worked in... They were quite tricky back then, and 15 years later they're going to be worse!
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Old 24 November 2008, 11:39   #2
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Wow, that's cool. I guess the seals alone are worth something
I would also use steam to get them off. Maybe that still works (never tried it after so many years). Best of luck with that mate
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Old 24 November 2008, 12:01   #3
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@chiark

I know how you feel, The seals are intact & it would be a shame to break them, but that battery HAS to come out.
I had a similar A500+ about a year ago & the battery had begun leaking & the board need cleaning up.

Removing the seal requires patience thats all really, Steam may deform the plastic.
Seeing as you have to strip the Machine down to unsolder the battery & remove the Mobo from the Plastic case, apply a warm soapy flannel to soak the seal & then gently using a fingernail start to peel it away bit by bit keep applying the soapy flannel as you go along to keep the seal moist, you may also find a slight abrasive ation with the flannel will help remove it.

I very much doubt you will be able to remove the seals without breaking them as that is how they are designed to be.

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Old 24 November 2008, 12:39   #4
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Cheers folks

I wondered if anyone had a proven way of doing this, and am still hoping someone might. They are designed to be deliberately fragile: picking at it will see it come off in very small bits...

I guess I already knew the answer. Heat and moisture is the only way to shift glue.

= steam.

Just like back in the day ;-)
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A hairdryer and scalpel seems to do the trick for most people.
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Old 24 November 2008, 13:29   #6
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They are probably the type designed to leave the silver behind when peeled off.
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Old 24 November 2008, 14:14   #7
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They are probably the type designed to leave the silver behind when peeled off.
Yep! you'll probably have a tough time removing them.

If they are not the 'leave the silver behind labels' then as said earlier, a hair dryer (not too hot though as the plastic will deform, believe me I tried this once, not on an Amiga though, and warped the keys ), a scalpel and one of those tidy pens to help lift the glue from the plastic. Patience will reward you my friend, if you are successful
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No, these appear to be the "old" commodore style that are brittle, rather than leaving behind those "voidvoidvoidvoid" style silver layers.

I think.
I'll give it a try and post the outcome
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a scalpel is the way to go the sharper the better
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I've got a scalpel and pack of sterilised blades... Now I just need the steady hand
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don't forget you'll also need need a lady to mop your brow (nerves and patience are all you need my friend)
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Some time ago I did it on an ancient Atari 2600 seal using kerosene over the paper, soaking it, wait a few minutes and the whole paper will fall off in one piece.

Oh, using a scalpel to lift it. Test on a covered spot first to avoid DISSOLUTION OF THE PAPER!

This works only on pure paper seals. Old "technology". That's the cause builders abandon pure seal paper for more safely methods.
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Old 24 November 2008, 22:36   #15
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Just cut the top of the case and there you go: you can replace battery and label will stay intact.

Try either small amount of heat to loosen it. But keep in mind that this way can stick even better.
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When I got my A500+ with the seal intact I just cut a neat hole in the silver where the screw hole was with a scalpel... am I a bad person?
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Are these the labels that break apart easily. If they are I would presume you're gonna have loads of trouble removing them intact.

When my A1200 needed repair the nice man travelled to me to do the repair and I'm sure they were the kind of labels that broke apart when removing them. He did, however, replace them with new ones. Shame I didn't think back then, I could of borrowed some with the intent not to give them back and sent them to you, but sadly I didn't
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Well, after 10 minutes of messing around with kettles, heat guns and a very, very sharp scalpel...

I thought, "balls to this" and hacked straight through them.

I am a bad person. But at least I had decent thoughts for 10 minutes
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Well, after 10 minutes of messing around with kettles, heat guns and a very, very sharp scalpel...

I thought, "balls to this" and hacked straight through them.

I am a bad person. But at least I had decent thoughts for 10 minutes
Hehe, at least you tried it
How's the battery? Everything okay in there?
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yay thats the way to treat warranty seals
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