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Old 13 July 2012, 21:11   #1
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Z3 Fast: VirtualAlloc failed 487

Hello.

I'm using WinUAE 2.4.1 over Windows XP SP3, 32-bit. PAE disabled.
The Task Manager indicates 1.7 GB of free space.

When I set Z3 Fast to 32 MB or less, it works.
When I set Z3 Fast to 64 MB or more, it fails and I find the following in winuaelog.txt :

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54-859 [0 000x000]: shmget of size 67108864 (65536k) for z3
54-859 [0 000x000]: VirtualAlloc 10000000 - 14000020 4000020 (65536k) failed 487
54-859 [0 000x000]: Out of memory for 32 bit fast memory.
Why does it fail?
What can I do to fix that?
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Old 13 July 2012, 21:29   #2
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Complete log needed.
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Old 13 July 2012, 21:37   #3
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Actually, the scenario is different:

1) If I start WinUAE with a config file, it works fine up to 512 MB

2) If I start WinUAE with a config file with 32 MB, press F12, increase the Z3 RAM and click Reset: VirtualAllloc() fails.

3) If I reset WinUAE with less or equal Z3 RAM, it works fine.

4) If I start WinUAE with more than 512 MB, it crashes with a dump.

I will post the log. And maybe the dump also.
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Old 13 July 2012, 21:43   #4
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It is normal. It is not possible to increase pre-reserved 32-bit RAM size on the fly.
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Old 13 July 2012, 22:19   #5
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It is normal. It is not possible to increase pre-reserved 32-bit RAM size on the fly.
Ah, OK.
In that case, I would suggest to forbid the user to increase the RAM on the fly, or at least display a MessageBox when VirtualAlloc fails, because the unfortunate user doesn't understand why there is no Z3 RAM at all

Also, on normal startup, WinUAE should not crash if more than 512 MB of Z3 RAM is asked. See my full log and config files as attachment.
I used A1200 quickstart configuration + 32-bit addressing + 768 MB of Z3 RAM.
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Old 14 July 2012, 08:49   #6
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Ah, OK.
In that case, I would suggest to forbid the user to increase the RAM on the fly, or at least display a MessageBox when VirtualAlloc fails, because the unfortunate user doesn't understand why there is no Z3 RAM at all
It is not worth the trouble. It is not easy to calculate how much memory really fits in currently reserved virtual address space. (Too many different ways depending on used configuration)

It is also not good idea to reserve too much because it can cause problems (not enough address space available for other allocations), especially under 32-bit systems.

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Also, on normal startup, WinUAE should not crash if more than 512 MB of Z3 RAM is asked. See my full log and config files as attachment.
I used A1200 quickstart configuration + 32-bit addressing + 768 MB of Z3 RAM.
Can't duplicate and dump don't really show anything useful but I don't think it is directly caused by Z3 RAM size.

Attach another log, use -log -logflush command line parameters to prevent last few lines to be lost. Try also 2.4.2 beta.
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Old 14 July 2012, 10:24   #7
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It is not easy to calculate how much memory really fits in currently reserved virtual address space.
You didn't get my point, I didn't asked for that. I have opened a separate thread for that feature request.

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Attach another log, use -log -logflush command line parameters to prevent last few lines to be lost. Try also 2.4.2 beta.
Thanks for the -log parameter, that's really useful.

Unfortunately, there is no more information in the debug log with those options.

I tried WinUAE 2.4.2 beta 6, it still crashes in the same conditions. And it is even worse, as soon as I click OK in the Crash message box, another one pops up with a new crash, infinitely. I have to close the log window to exit from WinUAE.

See the full logs as attachment.
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Old 14 July 2012, 11:32   #8
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Additional strange information, if that could help...

1) In any case, it always crashes when Z3 RAM is > 512 MB

2) It also crashes in a same way with some other cases as described below

3) Generally, I have better luck when running winuae.exe without parameters, then loading configurations from the GUI.

4) With some configurations, when I run winuae.exe -f someconfig.uae, it works if the config file contains use_gui=no, but it crashes with use_gui=yes, just after I click Start.
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