Setting up 120gb SSD - Page 2

AshtonPete · 28 November 2013, 23:45

Ok Retrofan...I am going to have a crack now (again) be back soon...

Retrofan · 28 November 2013, 23:53

Ok. With a new Hd perhaps this is enough: http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=715736&postcount=3

AshtonPete · 29 November 2013, 00:11

@ Retrofan, advice very much appreciated as it is from everyone...I am coming against obstacles (don't we all love em) I will crack on tomorrow and let you all know how I get on. You would not believe the amount of times I have used Diskpart with that "Clean" command...

Toni Wilen · 29 November 2013, 08:16

It seems most who replied did not notice that problem is drive not being detected at all... (Drive, not partitions or partition table!)

Drive size or type will not make any difference. Partitioning it on other system (or WinUAE) will not make any difference.

If drive is jumpered correctly, cable is working etc.., it is either hardware incompatibility or driver bug or incompatibility (gets confused by latest ATA spec differences which are most likely in use by SSD drives).

lukassid · 29 November 2013, 08:51

Exactly. If the disk is invisible on Amiga whatever you do in WinUAE it will still be invisible. You need to get some old sata drive(not ssd) and check if Amiga will see that. If not then it's the adapter. Simple
If it's working with old sata drive than it must be that Sata III could be IDE unfriendly.

rare_j · 30 November 2013, 01:39

What is the make and model of the ide to sata adapter?
Some of these adapters are more compatible with older kit than others.

AshtonPete · 30 November 2013, 20:21

zipper · 30 November 2013, 22:13

http://www.hexin-technology.com/SATA...oduct-421.html

AshtonPete · 30 November 2013, 22:35

The one shown in the pics above was supplied by Amigakit...Am I to assume Amigakit need a lesson in supplying correct hardware?

fitzsteve · 30 November 2013, 22:39

Have you raised a support ticket with Amigakit?

You still didn't confirm if you were connecting to the correct ide header, oh and also did you try another sata drive yet?

thomas · 30 November 2013, 22:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by AshtonPete

The one shown in the pics above was supplied by Amigakit...Am I to assume Amigakit need a lesson in supplying correct hardware?

Please define "correct". Did you tell them that it will be used in an ancient Amiga computer when you ordered it?

The adapter probably works quite well in an AmigaOne or a similar modern computer which does UDMA 100/133.

AshtonPete · 30 November 2013, 22:52

Soz,,,all I get is a grey screen...Believe me I have tried every permutation known to man.
I doubt if Amigakit are intersested once they have your money, but I will pursue the matter.

Retrofan · 30 November 2013, 22:57

Thomas that adapter is supplied with the Fast ATA MKIV kit, and also the blue ribbon cable. I've got the same and I didn't ask for any. I'm not using it though.

fitzsteve · 30 November 2013, 23:13

I'm still pretty sure you've just hooked it up to the second ide port and that's why it's not showing up. Or it could be that the SSD is too modern for the hardware.

I'm sure the equipment supplied will be compatible with regular sata drives. I'm pretty certain though the secondary ide connector does not work until the fastata driver is loaded.

Amigakit are also very helpful if you contact them.
Anyway, since you seem to ignore my suggestions I will bow out of this thread now.

Retrofan · 01 December 2013, 03:11

AshtonPete I shoudn't open my mouth to contradict this wise sentence:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

It seems most who replied did not notice that problem is drive not being detected at all... (Drive, not partitions or partition table!)

But as you are so desperated, I would try what I say: Try to install it on WinUAE with PFS3AIO and then try it on the miggy. That's your last chance and I believe you have it as perhaps you've made some mistake with the install that you'll see on WinUAE... just see if it lets you install it (ejem... just in case, sorry

).

Edit: The last question: What info have you got on your HdToolBox (scsi_device_name)? Perhaps you've made a wrong copy to your floppy, using the adf you use for WinUAE.

AshtonPete · 01 December 2013, 21:06

Its scsi_device_name in the toolbox.

Damn it!!! I get this far---

thomas · 01 December 2013, 22:26

Drag HDToolbox to Ram Disk and run it from there.

And never never never never never insert the installation floppy disks (or any other floppy disk) without write protection on.

AshtonPete · 03 December 2013, 20:29

I have tried everything anyone told me what to try in this thread, no luck...even prepped it in WINUAE but real Amiga 1200 does not boot. Opened up another ticket with Amigakit, they want £35 to check my Fastata and £10 for prepping the SSD then there's the courier there and back. I am becoming more convinced its a faulty Fastata

Retrofan · 03 December 2013, 20:37

I don't understand you. In your photo you were showing that WinUAE was detecting the card, but you later made wrong the install, trying to install it on your floppy.

Following Thomas' advice you should be able to make the partitions on the HD.
First you were blaming the SSD card and now the Fast ATA...

Did you get to make the partitions? Did you install PFS3?

fitzsteve · 03 December 2013, 21:20

I'll ask one more time although I'm probably flogging a dead horse here but did you check yet that you are connecting the SSD to the correct (primary) channel on the FastATA and that you have set the jumpers on the adapter for 'master' ? (I assume the jumper on the board is a master/slave selector but you should read your paperwork)

29 November 2013, 08:51	#25
lukassid Registered User Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Surrey Posts: 390	Exactly. If the disk is invisible on Amiga whatever you do in WinUAE it will still be invisible. You need to get some old sata drive(not ssd) and check if Amiga will see that. If not then it's the adapter. Simple If it's working with old sata drive than it must be that Sata III could be IDE unfriendly. Last edited by lukassid; 29 November 2013 at 08:58.

01 December 2013, 21:06	#36
AshtonPete Registered User Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Wigan Age: 73 Posts: 70	Its scsi_device_name in the toolbox. Damn it!!! I get this far--- Last edited by AshtonPete; 01 December 2013 at 21:55.

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28 November 2013, 23:45	#21
AshtonPete Registered User Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Wigan Age: 73 Posts: 70	Ok Retrofan...I am going to have a crack now (again) be back soon...

28 November 2013, 23:53	#22
Retrofan Ruler of the Universe Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Lanzarote/Spain Posts: 6,189	Ok. With a new Hd perhaps this is enough: http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=715736&postcount=3

29 November 2013, 00:11	#23
AshtonPete Registered User Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Wigan Age: 73 Posts: 70	@ Retrofan, advice very much appreciated as it is from everyone...I am coming against obstacles (don't we all love em) I will crack on tomorrow and let you all know how I get on. You would not believe the amount of times I have used Diskpart with that "Clean" command...

29 November 2013, 08:16	#24
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,517	It seems most who replied did not notice that problem is drive not being detected at all... (Drive, not partitions or partition table!) Drive size or type will not make any difference. Partitioning it on other system (or WinUAE) will not make any difference. If drive is jumpered correctly, cable is working etc.., it is either hardware incompatibility or driver bug or incompatibility (gets confused by latest ATA spec differences which are most likely in use by SSD drives).

30 November 2013, 01:39	#26
rare_j Zone Friend Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: London Posts: 1,176	What is the make and model of the ide to sata adapter? Some of these adapters are more compatible with older kit than others.

30 November 2013, 20:21	#27
AshtonPete Registered User Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Wigan Age: 73 Posts: 70

30 November 2013, 22:13	#28
zipper Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: finland Posts: 1,838	http://www.hexin-technology.com/SATA...oduct-421.html

30 November 2013, 22:35	#29
AshtonPete Registered User Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Wigan Age: 73 Posts: 70	The one shown in the pics above was supplied by Amigakit...Am I to assume Amigakit need a lesson in supplying correct hardware?

30 November 2013, 22:39	#30
fitzsteve Professional slacker! Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kent, UK Age: 44 Posts: 6,683	Have you raised a support ticket with Amigakit? You still didn't confirm if you were connecting to the correct ide header, oh and also did you try another sata drive yet?

30 November 2013, 22:52	#32
AshtonPete Registered User Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Wigan Age: 73 Posts: 70	Soz,,,all I get is a grey screen...Believe me I have tried every permutation known to man. I doubt if Amigakit are intersested once they have your money, but I will pursue the matter.

30 November 2013, 22:57	#33
Retrofan Ruler of the Universe Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Lanzarote/Spain Posts: 6,189	Thomas that adapter is supplied with the Fast ATA MKIV kit, and also the blue ribbon cable. I've got the same and I didn't ask for any. I'm not using it though.

30 November 2013, 23:13	#34
fitzsteve Professional slacker! Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kent, UK Age: 44 Posts: 6,683	I'm still pretty sure you've just hooked it up to the second ide port and that's why it's not showing up. Or it could be that the SSD is too modern for the hardware. I'm sure the equipment supplied will be compatible with regular sata drives. I'm pretty certain though the secondary ide connector does not work until the fastata driver is loaded. Amigakit are also very helpful if you contact them. Anyway, since you seem to ignore my suggestions I will bow out of this thread now.

01 December 2013, 22:26	#37
thomas Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 7,001	Drag HDToolbox to Ram Disk and run it from there. And never never never never never insert the installation floppy disks (or any other floppy disk) without write protection on.

03 December 2013, 20:29	#38
AshtonPete Registered User Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Wigan Age: 73 Posts: 70	I have tried everything anyone told me what to try in this thread, no luck...even prepped it in WINUAE but real Amiga 1200 does not boot. Opened up another ticket with Amigakit, they want £35 to check my Fastata and £10 for prepping the SSD then there's the courier there and back. I am becoming more convinced its a faulty Fastata

03 December 2013, 20:37	#39
Retrofan Ruler of the Universe Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Lanzarote/Spain Posts: 6,189	I don't understand you. In your photo you were showing that WinUAE was detecting the card, but you later made wrong the install, trying to install it on your floppy. Following Thomas' advice you should be able to make the partitions on the HD. First you were blaming the SSD card and now the Fast ATA... Did you get to make the partitions? Did you install PFS3?

03 December 2013, 21:20	#40
fitzsteve Professional slacker! Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kent, UK Age: 44 Posts: 6,683	I'll ask one more time although I'm probably flogging a dead horse here but did you check yet that you are connecting the SSD to the correct (primary) channel on the FastATA and that you have set the jumpers on the adapter for 'master' ? (I assume the jumper on the board is a master/slave selector but you should read your paperwork)

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