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Old 21 May 2016, 16:37   #1
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Trying to find ADF files of Pinball Illusions that works on a real A1200

As the title says,I have a copy of it from ADF on floppy that is cracked but it comes up with loading and does not go any further. I have it on WHDLoad but can't use it at the moment waiting for my new memory to come..?

Can anyone point me to a working version of the game that works on A1200...Thanks.
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Old 21 May 2016, 16:54   #2
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If you really want to be sure you can install the original IPF images in emulation and copy the game folder to your Amiga then.

http://www.oldgamesfinder.com/
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Thanks,installed it on my CF HD but when I try to load it,it load up the intro but then starts to load the part where you select the 3 table(Love the music),it just sits there with Loading on the screen and nothing,no HD lite saying its loading..is it my memory..must be.All I have at the moment is the 2mb in the Amiga and a PCMCIA Card with 2mb on it..? I tried RAD from CWB and it does the same.

Is there a way of copying the IPF files to a Real floppy..?

If I can run these in Amiga Forever,can I use Amiga Explorer to copy them back to disk/floppy..?

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It's probably the 2MB PCMCIA Fastram that causes this issue. Remove it and Pinball Illussions will work fine.

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This game will not work without extra ram,When I load the first table from floppy(Gotek),it says"Out of Memory" on a stock A1200..? Is that because I have the HD connected or something..?
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This game will not work without extra ram,When I load the first table,it says"Out of Memory" on a stock A1200..?
This is impossible unless your WB is bloated with tools in WB-Startup or something else that eat too much of your Chipmem (i.e. 256 colors, wallpapers).

edit: Have you tried to install it via the normal Amiga DOS installer? It should work without mem problems. 2MB Chip is enough. Loading via Gotek shouldn't be a problem.

edit2: Just tried it IPF image in WinUAE. It says indeed "out of memory". Strange, i remember playing it without fastram on my A1200 years ago.

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Here's a picture..Yep its weird don't say anything in the manual too or box..?

I don't get it...

http://gamesdbase.com/Media/SYSTEM/C...ertainment.pdf

Ah well I have it on Amiga CD32 anyway,no problem but you would think they would tell you need more ram.
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Problem solved. You need an external drive. Insert the table disk into DF1: before you start to boot via DF0: and it works fine with 2MB chipram. Still very strange. Also wasn't mentioned in the manual.
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Its the HD using up memory that why,it just did the same thing with Slam Tilt and I removed the HD and it load the table..

EDIT:Yep it was the hard drive,its work ok now with out it.Can you disable the hard drive in the menu when you hold down both mouse buttons,don't want to keep on removing it..?

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Sure, set DH0-DHX to "disabled" in the Boot options of the Early Startup Menu.

edit: Just installed the game via HD installer on disk 4. I don't know the exact amount of chipram which is needed to start it via WB. But it works fine when you boot it with no startup-sequence (Early Startup Menu) and then via shell.

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Problem solved. You need an external drive. Insert the table disk into DF1: before you start to boot via DF0: and it works fine with 2MB chipram. Still very strange. Also wasn't mentioned in the manual.
I can't believe that a game developer released a game that requires 2 disk drives.

Playing the IPF's in WinUAE:
If you click the mouse when it asks for disk 2 with disk 1 still in DF0: then you get the out of memory error.
Insert disk 2 in df0: then click the mouse, then the game loads.

Playing from the A1200; does it ask for disk 2?
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Ha, that's true. You have to actually insert the table disk into DF0: before you select the table in the game. Then it works fine with one drive. Well, it asks then a split second for Disk1 but you can ignore it.
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Actually, in WinUAE, loading the table prompts you to insert disk2, then press the mouse ??
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Ups, you are right again. It's just a simple user error (me!!!). If you press mouse when the game asks for disk 2 and you haven't done it yet it quits with an "out of memory" error.

But in spannernicks case it was really the harddrive that eats chipmem i assume. Loading it from hdd installed with "no startup-sequence" option in Eary Startup Menu though should work fine for him too.

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Now I am glad I got the game working But now if I can get my shift keys to work that be good too...HAHA,waiting for silver paint to come,it just the shifts alts As and CTRL that need to work now..

Shame I can't change the keys like on Slam Tilt,well Slam Tiit is better than PI
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Is there a crack version of the game where you can have more balls..? Why did they have to make the tables so hard.. Got my shifts working. and should of added the viking table.Its not a complete game without it.
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There's an ingame cheat. Never tried it though.

http://www.lemonamiga.com/games/cheats.php?id=1452
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I tried but couldn't get it to work,do you press number 0 first..?

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Great you can run it on your A1200 ! Didn't see rhis thread otherwise i would have helped. The game needs only DF0 abd a stock A1200. External drives are ok (i use DF1, DF2) but HD grabbed certainly a bit of your avaible RAM. By curiosity i will try it without disabling anything and report the result to see if your solved problem can be reproduced.
 
 


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