Crash when loading anything with WHDload

KONEY · 29 January 2010, 21:23

I am experiencing a crash when opening any games with WHDload. In the past this problem was sometimes but since a few month it became unusable!

The guru number is 002EDEB8

and happens nearly IMMEDIATILY after the program loads.

whdload is registered and I have an A600 + Viper '030 and os/ks 3.1

edit: the guru number is always different!

what can it be?

Galahad/FLT · 29 January 2010, 21:41

Sounds like a knackered ram simm module to me.

KONEY · 29 January 2010, 22:46

That would be really bad as it's surface soldered!

How can I check it?

Galahad/FLT · 29 January 2010, 22:56

Is it just WHDLoad that has problems?

Have you got a Stack running in the background?

chiark · 29 January 2010, 23:06

Try a full memory test: http://aminet.net/util/moni/MemTest.lha

Other thing could be the 630 has moved off its mounting: I've got a 620 and need to reseat it every so often...

KONEY · 06 February 2010, 15:27

Thanx for the replies!

Memory test tells everything is fine.

It happens ONLY with WHDload. When laungìching the ecetutable. Also the cd32 executable has the same problem.

I will try to secure better the expansion but it sounds strange to me, it works ok on the rest!

Retro-Nerd · 06 February 2010, 20:07

Try to set the NoMemReverse tooltype (remove the ";" in this line) in s:whdload.prefs.

KONEY · 06 February 2010, 20:22

I do not have that line @ all! All the others are "dotcommaed"

I tried to put it as you advise but still sudden crash when launching!

Retro-Nerd · 06 February 2010, 20:24

You use an old WHDLoad version. Get v16.9 here.

http://whdload.de/

KONEY · 07 February 2010, 01:15

Issuing a "version WHDload" responses I have already 16.9 [build 4672]

The program is also registered (to me) and has been working in the beginning! first some games crashed that way and now ALL of them. Also when running alone, from the shell, I don't go further of hitting returm

(

Wepl · 07 February 2010, 15:40

maybe you have changed your system since it worked somehow (installing some patches for example)?
have a backup form the times it has worked?
or you have a slowly dying hardware problem...

KONEY · 07 February 2010, 15:49

that would be sad

I tried another system and there IT WORKS! So it must be a software problem!

Galahad/FLT · 07 February 2010, 15:49

Have you tried booting with no startup-sequence?

Reset Amiga, and hold down both mouse buttons until the Early Startup Menu activates, and click on the 'no startup-sequence' option and see if that fixes things.

Could be something loaded in the startup-sequence that is causing grief to WHDLoad.

KONEY · 07 February 2010, 15:56

I tried yet. Everything hangs, no guru, but it hangs. Now as I said I managed to run one game with another workbench and I'm investigating about that.

Allen1 · 07 February 2010, 18:20

Have you tried replacing WHDload in C, it may have become corrupted.

KONEY · 07 February 2010, 19:15

I did think of that but also the CD32 executable has the same problem. And also another executable in a different workbench installation crashes.

Allen1 · 07 February 2010, 20:58

You really have nothing to lose by replacing WHDload and WHDloadCD32 in the C drawer, at least it will eliminate one more possibility.

KONEY · 06 April 2010, 01:38

There are some developments in the problem. Removing the Viper board or setting the system with NoFastRam tool WHDload starts flawlessly. But with only 2mb of chip ram I am unable to run any game anyway.

Someone has something to suggest about this? what can I try to do?

Galahad/FLT · 06 April 2010, 11:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by KONEY

There are some developments in the problem. Removing the Viper board or setting the system with NoFastRam tool WHDload starts flawlessly. But with only 2mb of chip ram I am unable to run any game anyway.

Someone has something to suggest about this? what can I try to do?

Pretty sure one of the first replies you got to this problem suggested your ram simm might be broken.

Can you borrow one from a friend and see if theirs works in your board?

KONEY · 06 April 2010, 13:34

True but after running two different memtests I stopped thinking it was the memory.

It is not so easy to change the ram as it's soldered!

29 January 2010, 21:23	#1
KONEY OctaMED Music Composer Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Venice - Italy Age: 49 Posts: 667	Crash when loading anything with WHDload I am experiencing a crash when opening any games with WHDload. In the past this problem was sometimes but since a few month it became unusable! The guru number is 002EDEB8 and happens nearly IMMEDIATILY after the program loads. whdload is registered and I have an A600 + Viper '030 and os/ks 3.1 edit: the guru number is always different! what can it be?

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29 January 2010, 21:41	#2
Galahad/FLT Going nowhere Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: United Kingdom Age: 50 Posts: 9,004	Sounds like a knackered ram simm module to me.

29 January 2010, 22:46	#3
KONEY OctaMED Music Composer Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Venice - Italy Age: 49 Posts: 667	That would be really bad as it's surface soldered! How can I check it?

29 January 2010, 22:56	#4
Galahad/FLT Going nowhere Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: United Kingdom Age: 50 Posts: 9,004	Is it just WHDLoad that has problems? Have you got a Stack running in the background?

29 January 2010, 23:06	#5
chiark Needs a life Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: England Posts: 1,707	Try a full memory test: http://aminet.net/util/moni/MemTest.lha Other thing could be the 630 has moved off its mounting: I've got a 620 and need to reseat it every so often...

06 February 2010, 15:27	#6
KONEY OctaMED Music Composer Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Venice - Italy Age: 49 Posts: 667	Thanx for the replies! Memory test tells everything is fine. It happens ONLY with WHDload. When laungìching the ecetutable. Also the cd32 executable has the same problem. I will try to secure better the expansion but it sounds strange to me, it works ok on the rest!

06 February 2010, 20:07	#7
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,447	Try to set the NoMemReverse tooltype (remove the ";" in this line) in s:whdload.prefs.

06 February 2010, 20:22	#8
KONEY OctaMED Music Composer Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Venice - Italy Age: 49 Posts: 667	I do not have that line @ all! All the others are "dotcommaed" I tried to put it as you advise but still sudden crash when launching!

06 February 2010, 20:24	#9
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,447	You use an old WHDLoad version. Get v16.9 here. http://whdload.de/

07 February 2010, 01:15	#10
KONEY OctaMED Music Composer Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Venice - Italy Age: 49 Posts: 667	Issuing a "version WHDload" responses I have already 16.9 [build 4672] The program is also registered (to me) and has been working in the beginning! first some games crashed that way and now ALL of them. Also when running alone, from the shell, I don't go further of hitting returm (

07 February 2010, 15:40	#11
Wepl Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Germany Posts: 866	maybe you have changed your system since it worked somehow (installing some patches for example)? have a backup form the times it has worked? or you have a slowly dying hardware problem...

07 February 2010, 15:49	#12
KONEY OctaMED Music Composer Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Venice - Italy Age: 49 Posts: 667	that would be sad I tried another system and there IT WORKS! So it must be a software problem!

07 February 2010, 15:56	#14
KONEY OctaMED Music Composer Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Venice - Italy Age: 49 Posts: 667	I tried yet. Everything hangs, no guru, but it hangs. Now as I said I managed to run one game with another workbench and I'm investigating about that.

07 February 2010, 18:20	#15
Allen1 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Blyth England Age: 68 Posts: 786	Have you tried replacing WHDload in C, it may have become corrupted.

07 February 2010, 19:15	#16
KONEY OctaMED Music Composer Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Venice - Italy Age: 49 Posts: 667	I did think of that but also the CD32 executable has the same problem. And also another executable in a different workbench installation crashes.

07 February 2010, 20:58	#17
Allen1 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Blyth England Age: 68 Posts: 786	You really have nothing to lose by replacing WHDload and WHDloadCD32 in the C drawer, at least it will eliminate one more possibility.

06 April 2010, 01:38	#18
KONEY OctaMED Music Composer Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Venice - Italy Age: 49 Posts: 667	There are some developments in the problem. Removing the Viper board or setting the system with NoFastRam tool WHDload starts flawlessly. But with only 2mb of chip ram I am unable to run any game anyway. Someone has something to suggest about this? what can I try to do?

06 April 2010, 13:34	#20
KONEY OctaMED Music Composer Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Venice - Italy Age: 49 Posts: 667	True but after running two different memtests I stopped thinking it was the memory. It is not so easy to change the ram as it's soldered!

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