Poll: What KS would you prefer in a Vampire... Aros or KS3.1

kipper2k · 12 February 2016, 21:08

Hi All, subject says it all,

What OS would you prefer in a Vampire, be it a500/a600 or a1200 etc.

Please give your thoughts even if you dont own/want a Vampire.

mech · 12 February 2016, 21:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by kipper2k

Hi All, subject says it all,

What OS would you prefer in a Vampire, be it a500/a600 or a1200 etc.

Please give your thoughts even if you dont own/want a Vampire.

OS3.x of course

DDNI · 12 February 2016, 21:14

KS3.1

I am watching the Vampire with great interest. The A500 version interests me most.

FREEMILK · 12 February 2016, 21:17

3.x

eXeler0 · 12 February 2016, 21:20

I definitely prefer Amiga OS 3.9 but it would be interesting if one could set up a dual boot with both AmigaOS 3x and AROS. ;-)

IanP · 12 February 2016, 21:20

I vote AROS. The move from the stagnant OS 3.x to an open source OS needs to be "kickstarted" by including it as the default choice for the Vampire. Then the impetus to keep developing AROS 68k will be there.

SkulleateR · 12 February 2016, 21:27

I think we would need AROS but 100% backwards compatible

Superman · 12 February 2016, 21:33

All of them selectable from a menu.

Codetsu · 12 February 2016, 22:10

OS 3.x

Arnie · 12 February 2016, 22:25

If possible, both.

Adrian Browne · 12 February 2016, 22:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arnie

If possible, both.

Yes.

matthey · 12 February 2016, 23:14

Multiple selectable kickstarts (with 512kB and 1MB MAPROM support). Multiple selectable drive partitions. Multiple selectable FPGA CPU cores. Multiple selectable FPGA chipset cores. Choice is good but this is Gunnar's toy project so you should ask him rather than the public.

tassel · 12 February 2016, 23:18

KS3.x

Predseda · 12 February 2016, 23:21

KS3.x

eXeler0 · 12 February 2016, 23:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adrian Browne

Yes.

Quote:

Originally Posted by matthey

Multiple selectable kickstarts (with 512kB and 1MB MAPROM support). Multiple selectable drive partitions. Multiple selectable FPGA CPU cores. Multiple selectable FPGA chipset cores. Choice is good but this is Gunnar's toy project so you should ask him rather than the public.

The Vampire can't be referred to as Gunnar 's project, can it? The Vampire v2 would exist even without the Apollo-core.
But there's no denying that what makes the Vampire a new platform with actual potential to breathe some life into 68k Amigaland is the work done by Gunnar & Co.
No need to let the bitterness in your words shine through every time something Gunnar / Apollo-core related turns up. ;-)
Life is short, and the typical Development time in Amigaland is counted in decades. Whatever decisions Gunnar has made and whatever his leadership style is, it may not go smoothly with everyone, but the results of his achievements are positive for the Amiga community.

Arnie · 12 February 2016, 23:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by matthey

Multiple selectable kickstarts (with 512kB and 1MB MAPROM support). Multiple selectable drive partitions. Multiple selectable FPGA CPU cores. Multiple selectable FPGA chipset cores. Choice is good but this is Gunnar's toy project so you should ask him rather than the public.

Ahh. but he might have already approached Gunner, and Gunner said "Why don't you ask them?"

12 February 2016, 23:43

3.x

matthey · 13 February 2016, 00:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by eXeler0

The Vampire can't be referred to as Gunnar 's project, can it? The Vampire v2 would exist even without the Apollo-core.
But there's no denying that what makes the Vampire a new platform with actual potential to breathe some life into 68k Amigaland is the work done by Gunnar & Co.

Majsta created and made good progress on the Vampire project before Gunnar came along. I suggested cooperating with other FPGA projects and Altera FPGA users logically made the most sense to approach. There was some cooperation with the Mist guys also but they had more of a focus on compatibility than performance. Majsta was a good choice even if his hardware needed to be improved for the Apollo core. Also, kipper2k is a good guy. Gunnar has a tendency to dominate the meek and most helpful people though. If their goals line up perfectly with his then their will be no problems.

Quote:

Originally Posted by eXeler0

No need to let the bitterness in your words shine through every time something Gunnar / Apollo-core related turns up. ;-)
Life is short, and the typical Development time in Amigaland is counted in decades. Whatever decisions Gunnar has made and whatever his leadership style is, it may not go smoothly with everyone, but the results of his achievements are positive for the Amiga community.

I tried to keep my response short and to the point yet so many seem to know what I'm talking about. I'm not bitter but rather disappointed. Gunnar's micromanagement authoritarian management style is not efficient.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arnie

Ahh. but he might have already approached Gunner, and Gunner said "Why don't you ask them?"

True. I see you also know Gunnar and his ways

.

Amiga1992 · 13 February 2016, 00:46

3.1
But the option to make custom ones or have a 3.1 that includes neat things like updated icon and workbench libraries, cf pcmcia device in ROM, etc. would be awesome.

I don't think AROS is mature enough to be put on a product of this category, otherwise I'd choose it, because nothing is better than not having to deal with the copyright assholes who own the Amiga stuff.

Daedalus · 13 February 2016, 01:00

3.1 for use with OS 3.9. But ideally it would be sufficiently compatible to run either.

12 February 2016, 21:08	#1
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12 February 2016, 21:14	#3
DDNI Targ Explorer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 5,433	KS3.1 I am watching the Vampire with great interest. The A500 version interests me most.

12 February 2016, 21:17	#4
FREEMILK Registered User Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: North Bay, Ontario, Canada Posts: 67	3.x

12 February 2016, 21:20	#5
eXeler0 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Sweden Age: 50 Posts: 2,970	I definitely prefer Amiga OS 3.9 but it would be interesting if one could set up a dual boot with both AmigaOS 3x and AROS. ;-)

12 February 2016, 21:20	#6
IanP Registered User Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Bristol/UK Posts: 166	I vote AROS. The move from the stagnant OS 3.x to an open source OS needs to be "kickstarted" by including it as the default choice for the Vampire. Then the impetus to keep developing AROS 68k will be there.

12 February 2016, 21:27	#7
SkulleateR Registered User Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Germany Posts: 338	I think we would need AROS but 100% backwards compatible

12 February 2016, 21:33	#8
Superman Super Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Wakefield Age: 49 Posts: 1,334	All of them selectable from a menu.

12 February 2016, 22:10	#9
Codetsu Registered User Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: next to Mordor Posts: 147	OS 3.x

12 February 2016, 22:25	#10
Arnie R.I.P Smudge 18-08-16 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Leicester/UK Age: 66 Posts: 3,968	If possible, both.

12 February 2016, 23:14	#12
matthey Banned Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Kansas Posts: 1,284	Multiple selectable kickstarts (with 512kB and 1MB MAPROM support). Multiple selectable drive partitions. Multiple selectable FPGA CPU cores. Multiple selectable FPGA chipset cores. Choice is good but this is Gunnar's toy project so you should ask him rather than the public.

12 February 2016, 23:18	#13
tassel Tassel / LaBaN Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Kristiansand / Norway Posts: 42	KS3.x

12 February 2016, 23:21	#14
Predseda Puttymoon inhabitant Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tromaville Age: 46 Posts: 7,560	KS3.x

13 February 2016, 00:46	#19
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,646	3.1 But the option to make custom ones or have a 3.1 that includes neat things like updated icon and workbench libraries, cf pcmcia device in ROM, etc. would be awesome. I don't think AROS is mature enough to be put on a product of this category, otherwise I'd choose it, because nothing is better than not having to deal with the copyright assholes who own the Amiga stuff.

13 February 2016, 01:00	#20
Daedalus Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Dublin, then Glasgow Posts: 6,374	3.1 for use with OS 3.9. But ideally it would be sufficiently compatible to run either.

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