For those interested in joining the PPC world... - Page 3

Slayer · 24 April 2005, 03:57

@Firthy2002

heh... I know you don't hate me :P but hey, do not fear, I used to dream literally of A4000s only to wake up and finding it was just a dream...

now I own five

Unknown_K · 24 April 2005, 04:49

I just get bent out of shape when I come to an Amiga forum looking for realistic talk and people get elitist in here. I don't like elitist wether its on x86, Linux, Amiga, or Mac platform. All the elitist talk gets is a flamewar.

I have spent many $1000's on my retro computer hobby. Any platform you pick will have meaningfull upgrades and ones that are just useless that people buy just to say they have it. The buyer should do alot of research and know what they want to do with the machine before spending the money. People here should either add usefull information to those people or just say nothing.

woody57 · 24 April 2005, 06:46

Thankyou gentlemen for allowing this topic to procede forward and it demonstrates that we can agree to disagree on things that are a matter of perspective of viewpoint , because even if Slayer has no use for a comparitive thread , there will be others with less knoledge who are looking for guidance in this area .

As an update to the earlier issue of the " NON available " automon for B-Vision raised by Keropi .

I wish to state I aquired one through EBAY [ for less than €28 with p&p] which I have in my possesion [ so I know its real & not a myth

] and will be including my observations of its usefullness once it has been tryed out over the following few weeks.

Hopefully now additional posters will consider " jumping the gun " on this item & the mediator /g-rex issues as I can only plead ignorance myself in these areas and would consider it useful to the thread if these topics could be first hand reported .

Slayer · 24 April 2005, 08:54

hmmm...

how available are cybervision PPC boards? I wouldn't mind hooking one up to the cyberstorm and placing the current cybervision64/3D into this A4000 desktop and then placing its PicassoII+ into...err ya get the picture...

I understand Unknown_K it's just a pity more people wouldn't be more tolerant of the Amigas now dated potential...

and yes woodshed57, keep us posted eh!

Mad-Matt · 24 April 2005, 11:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Akira

I accept though, the mac mini is a consmer line model, not a pro model, so if I said so I stand corrected. Nevertheless what you say is absolute garbage.

I happen to like the IBooks, look very cool and preferable to the average pc laptop. But everything i stated about macmini is true. the collage at which I work thaught it would be a good idea to get a couple for mediastudies . Altrhough there the lower end version designed for nothing more then connecting your ipod and running itunes, the machines are unusable for anything else. Fire up photoshop and ya start to crawl along once its found enough memorty to load it self into. theres no way it can be called a pro box

Back to Amiga PPC though. It probably isnt a good time annymore to invest lots into for classic amigas. The hardware is just getting too old and fragile and the ppc apps were getting really does benefit the faster machines. classic ppc was great to have when it came out...but i think its time to put that money into the new faster amigaone if youre serious about staying with Amiga.

Slayer · 24 April 2005, 12:04

Some of us have/are getting an A1

by the end of the year I should be running a 1.4 gig processor or there abouts...

Plenty fast for a modern machine... especially since we all know the AmigaOS is so compact reliable and hardly resource hungry... Weeee, good times ahead

course, I'll still look after my classic range

Firthy2002 · 24 April 2005, 18:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slayer

@Firthy2002

heh... I know you don't hate me :P but hey, do not fear, I used to dream literally of A4000s only to wake up and finding it was just a dream...

now I own five

I always wanted an A4000 since I first saw one in First Computers back in the day. But I especially want an A4000T.

Amiga1992 · 25 April 2005, 00:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad-Matt

the collage at which I work thaught it would be a good idea to get a couple for mediastudies . Altrhough there the lower end version designed for nothing more then connecting your ipod and running itunes, the machines are unusable for anything else. Fire up photoshop and ya start to crawl along once its found enough memorty to load it self into. theres no way it can be called a pro box ;

Have you heard the words "upgrade memory", ever? You think 256MB is enough in your PC? It isn't enough in the Mac Mini either.

My iBook has 384MB of RAM and a GEE THREE processor at SEVEN HUNDRED MEGAHERTZ, not a GEE FOUR processor at ONE POINT TWENTY FIVE GIGAHERTZ like the mac mini. My iBook works flawlessly with Photoshop, Final Cut Pro and whatever I shiove at it. Please explain to me how can a mac mini underperform.

Unknown_K · 25 April 2005, 02:39

The Mac mini has 256mb ram which is a little on the small side for OSX with a few apps open. Since the swapfile is on a very slow HD vitual memory performace will be bad.

Compare the same app on a dual G5 with 1GB of memory and a FAST HD and on the mini and you will notice a big difference.

Its just a matter of speed, especialy while multitasking. System speed is affected by quite a lot more then just the processor and video card.

Amiga1992 · 25 April 2005, 03:10

That's why I said "UPGRADE RAM".

It's stupid to use a 256MB system and say "it doesn't run Photoshop". it's the fault of not having enough RAM and not because the minimac is underpowered. My Example works well to illustrate it.

Slayer · 25 April 2005, 06:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Firthy2002

I always wanted an A4000 since I first saw one in First Computers back in the day. But I especially want an A4000T.

Well, I guess I better come clean now that I've noticed the specifics. The A4000T I have isn't a trye A4000T it's a A4000D placed into a tower system. So along with you I can hang out for an authentic A4000T too! feel better?

But hey, I do have a 100% working genuine A3000T and in some ways this is probably more a gem...

Amiga1992 · 25 April 2005, 07:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slayer

Well, I guess I better come clean now that I've noticed the specifics. The A4000T I have isn't a trye A4000T it's a A4000D placed into a tower system.

A-hA!! He got you there ;D

Quote:

But hey, I do have a 100% working genuine A3000T and in some ways this is probably more a gem...

Are you DoomMaster?

Slayer · 25 April 2005, 07:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Akira

A-hA!! He got you there ;D

HEY!!!! ya make it sound like I was trying to hide the fact...

I merely elaborated so he'd feel better and being so honest I couldn't allow people to believe otherwise... how can one be so self righteous and elite if you lie... that's when you cease to be one thing and become another... err yeah

Quote:

Originally Posted by Akira

Are you DoomMaster?

Excuse my ignorance but I wish I knew what the reference means

manicx · 25 April 2005, 08:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Akira

Are you DoomMaster?

Slayer · 25 April 2005, 11:38

Not sure I like that laughing Manicx hopefully I'm wrong otherwise I can think of few labels for what's going on here that you won't like but I'll find funny

manicx · 25 April 2005, 12:16

Of course you are wrong! DoomMaster is Akira's best EAB friend!!!

woody57 · 25 April 2005, 14:54

Now Manix your teasing the man , doomaster is Akira,s STALKER and as such definitley does NOT belong in here with his " military spec A500 "

Doomy would already have trashed ppc , berated ALL 4000, 3000, 1200 combo's and accused us all of talking rubbish becayse were not "class 4 Amiga technicians living in OHIO " personally I have already published a cartoon of this " ploughboy's " true activities and as such I am quite sure Slayer would have steered clear of such an OFF TOPIC item and be unaware of Doomasters existance .

Now we have the minimac question answered thanks to AKIRA

Can we move on to G-rex /mediator question ? or is thread now DOOMED

Slayer · 25 April 2005, 15:35

Woo woodshed57 the pinnacle of sensibility!

and here I was coming back to go wheeee to being Akira's
best EAB friend... ah well...

but yes, lets get back on track (we are not doomed

)
and I should get to bed... too busy trying to compile
something and it's getting late... 1:36am and work in
few hours... grr

*wave*

Unknown_K · 25 April 2005, 22:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by woodshed57

Now Manix your teasing the man , doomaster is Akira,s STALKER and as such definitley does NOT belong in here with his " military spec A500 "

Doomy would already have trashed ppc , berated ALL 4000, 3000, 1200 combo's and accused us all of talking rubbish becayse were not "class 4 Amiga technicians living in OHIO " personally I have already published a cartoon of this " ploughboy's " true activities and as such I am quite sure Slayer would have steered clear of such an OFF TOPIC item and be unaware of Doomasters existance .

Now we have the minimac question answered thanks to AKIRA

Can we move on to G-rex /mediator question ? or is thread now DOOMED

Hey I live in Ohio dammit, DoomMaster lives on the other side of the country (Oregon maybe?)

woody57 · 25 April 2005, 23:13

Considering the size of your Native State Unknown K I am not in the least suprised if it contains a few " nutjobs " like Doomaster

Who sadly perpetuate the potato farmhand myth , however since the aforesaid " class 4 technician " also CLAIMED to be in Ohio he was proberly from some " hick town " from some other state and believed borrowing yours gave him a touch of " Cultural Sophistication "

Isn't it crazy that were discussing someone who hasn't posted in here for quite a long time ?

Now that assumption has been BURIED can we please move on

25 April 2005, 23:13	#60
woody57 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Manchester Posts: 801	Not another off topic post Considering the size of your Native State Unknown K I am not in the least suprised if it contains a few " nutjobs " like Doomaster Who sadly perpetuate the potato farmhand myth , however since the aforesaid " class 4 technician " also CLAIMED to be in Ohio he was proberly from some " hick town " from some other state and believed borrowing yours gave him a touch of " Cultural Sophistication " Isn't it crazy that were discussing someone who hasn't posted in here for quite a long time ? Now that assumption has been BURIED can we please move on

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24 April 2005, 03:57	#41
Slayer Amiga Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: New Zealand Age: 56 Posts: 695	@Firthy2002 heh... I know you don't hate me :P but hey, do not fear, I used to dream literally of A4000s only to wake up and finding it was just a dream... now I own five

24 April 2005, 04:49	#42
Unknown_K Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio/USA Age: 55 Posts: 1,380	I just get bent out of shape when I come to an Amiga forum looking for realistic talk and people get elitist in here. I don't like elitist wether its on x86, Linux, Amiga, or Mac platform. All the elitist talk gets is a flamewar. I have spent many $1000's on my retro computer hobby. Any platform you pick will have meaningfull upgrades and ones that are just useless that people buy just to say they have it. The buyer should do alot of research and know what they want to do with the machine before spending the money. People here should either add usefull information to those people or just say nothing.

24 April 2005, 06:46	#43
woody57 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Manchester Posts: 801	Thankyou gentlemen for allowing this topic to procede forward and it demonstrates that we can agree to disagree on things that are a matter of perspective of viewpoint , because even if Slayer has no use for a comparitive thread , there will be others with less knoledge who are looking for guidance in this area . As an update to the earlier issue of the " NON available " automon for B-Vision raised by Keropi . I wish to state I aquired one through EBAY [ for less than €28 with p&p] which I have in my possesion [ so I know its real & not a myth ] and will be including my observations of its usefullness once it has been tryed out over the following few weeks. Hopefully now additional posters will consider " jumping the gun " on this item & the mediator /g-rex issues as I can only plead ignorance myself in these areas and would consider it useful to the thread if these topics could be first hand reported .

24 April 2005, 08:54	#44
Slayer Amiga Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: New Zealand Age: 56 Posts: 695	hmmm... how available are cybervision PPC boards? I wouldn't mind hooking one up to the cyberstorm and placing the current cybervision64/3D into this A4000 desktop and then placing its PicassoII+ into...err ya get the picture... I understand Unknown_K it's just a pity more people wouldn't be more tolerant of the Amigas now dated potential... and yes woodshed57, keep us posted eh!

24 April 2005, 12:04	#46
Slayer Amiga Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: New Zealand Age: 56 Posts: 695	Some of us have/are getting an A1 by the end of the year I should be running a 1.4 gig processor or there abouts... Plenty fast for a modern machine... especially since we all know the AmigaOS is so compact reliable and hardly resource hungry... Weeee, good times ahead course, I'll still look after my classic range

25 April 2005, 02:39	#49
Unknown_K Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio/USA Age: 55 Posts: 1,380	The Mac mini has 256mb ram which is a little on the small side for OSX with a few apps open. Since the swapfile is on a very slow HD vitual memory performace will be bad. Compare the same app on a dual G5 with 1GB of memory and a FAST HD and on the mini and you will notice a big difference. Its just a matter of speed, especialy while multitasking. System speed is affected by quite a lot more then just the processor and video card.

25 April 2005, 03:10	#50
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	That's why I said "UPGRADE RAM". It's stupid to use a 256MB system and say "it doesn't run Photoshop". it's the fault of not having enough RAM and not because the minimac is underpowered. My Example works well to illustrate it.

25 April 2005, 11:38	#55
Slayer Amiga Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: New Zealand Age: 56 Posts: 695	Not sure I like that laughing Manicx hopefully I'm wrong otherwise I can think of few labels for what's going on here that you won't like but I'll find funny

25 April 2005, 12:16	#56
manicx Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Athens, Greece Posts: 991	Of course you are wrong! DoomMaster is Akira's best EAB friend!!!

25 April 2005, 14:54	#57
woody57 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Manchester Posts: 801	Now Manix your teasing the man , doomaster is Akira,s STALKER and as such definitley does NOT belong in here with his " military spec A500 " Doomy would already have trashed ppc , berated ALL 4000, 3000, 1200 combo's and accused us all of talking rubbish becayse were not "class 4 Amiga technicians living in OHIO " personally I have already published a cartoon of this " ploughboy's " true activities and as such I am quite sure Slayer would have steered clear of such an OFF TOPIC item and be unaware of Doomasters existance . Now we have the minimac question answered thanks to AKIRA Can we move on to G-rex /mediator question ? or is thread now DOOMED

25 April 2005, 15:35	#58
Slayer Amiga Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: New Zealand Age: 56 Posts: 695	Woo woodshed57 the pinnacle of sensibility! and here I was coming back to go wheeee to being Akira's best EAB friend... ah well... but yes, lets get back on track (we are not doomed ) and I should get to bed... too busy trying to compile something and it's getting late... 1:36am and work in few hours... grr wave

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