30 June 2015, 23:29 | #61 |
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You are true about somekind of improvement for sound like a mas player, and the same about graphics or RTG.
I don't know if they could make a complete improvement in all of the specs taking much more time - a year or maybe more- instead of wasting the few chips they have. Edit: What I talk about is ... money. Do you prefer/want to spend 300€ instead? Last edited by Retrofan; 30 June 2015 at 23:43. |
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30 June 2015, 23:46 | #63 |
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I'm extremely excited about this project. I for one don't think we need and all in one super Amiga with RTG, etc. We have WinUAE for that and other various options.
In my time tinkering I've become a huge fan of a basic A1200 setup with an 030 this does pretty much everything that I want from an Amiga and with mod cons like USB and HDMI options all brand new is certainly a big plus for me. I was a huge fan of the ACA500 and I'm really keen to see these features on the include list for the Amiga Reloaded. |
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we have a saying, "using a sledgehammer to crack a nut". i'm sorry to say it but it sounds like for what you want an Amiga to do we need the opposite expression.
what would that be? "using a nut to crack a sledgehammer"? The new boards are for whatever old boards are for. For doing Amiga things. If you want to do PC things why not just use a PC. There. I said it. |
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I didn't want to tell, but what all those improvements mean -faster mobo, fpga accelerators, better and faster music, better graphics- is that although they will play just the same old games, just the same way, you will like to play them in a nice, fast, good looking OS. (...)
There is where I want to go, although you already can try it, it's called AKReal . Last edited by Retrofan; 01 July 2015 at 00:23. |
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This sounds very cool but has some strange decisions, like the floppy port (meaning that if I have an Amiga floppy drive I want to use I have to get ANOTHER one) and the video issue. Also 3.5" audio jack is shitty in my opinion. I also understand there's no PCMCIA port? So we rely on the externally accessible CF which is IDE right? So I can't use a FAT95 easy transfer solution like I do with a PCMCIA adapter. That's a bit annoying as well.
In everything else, interesting enough and looking forward to the final, developed boards! |
01 July 2015, 01:33 | #68 |
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I think he will use the same solution as the aca500 so the second CF will probably support fat32 and natively. I agree at least there should be some rgb output as standard.
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Wow, this board looks really interesting, i will be looking forward to it with excitement
But what about clockports? I really hope it has at least one clockport, there are a lot of 1200 hardware that uses it. And then it will be my perfect amiga. For me the best is: -Zorro 3 speed ethernet and usb in desktop case -fastest chipram access |
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Yes I know, you missunderstood my message. :P
Personally i want the clockport for a delfina or the upcoming prisma megamix. Not that i will use 16bit software but i listen to music (16 bit) allways, and i'd prefer to do it without powering up any other computer |
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And btw from the Icomp wiki:
USB functionality can be added with the X-Surf-100 version of RapidRoad. This is the lowest-cost version of the product, yet the one with the highest-performing interface. |
01 July 2015, 03:01 | #73 |
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Yes, there are a lot of chips/functions that he could improve: Audio/graphics/USB/Internet/Clockport speed/HD speed/Chipram...
I guess he will only update the cheapest solutions and/or the ones that need something he's actually selling or he is planning to make. BTW Mallorca is funky indeed Edit: BTW if you want to play some funky music on your miggy, you just have to run AKReal with a 030 and a MAS player to listen some of the radio streams. That's like being in Plaza Gomila, saturday night . ...LOL... The 8.5 update will be the funkiest of all. Last edited by Retrofan; 01 July 2015 at 03:37. |
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Hahaha, lanzarote is funky too
I tried AKreal and it's just fantastic, but i don't want to go offtopic. I'm going to bed camarada amiguero. Buenas noches! |
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There's obviously a lot of things that could be improved with a new Classic Amiga motherboard but the tricky part is to maintain compatibility with Classic software.
For this reason I'm not surprised that Jens is being conservative. It's basically a platform for selling IC products and it could get very expensive to build a working computer. The only funky thing I can see is the faster CHIPRAM although it's hard to say at this point how much difference that will make...especially if the accelerator card is still being crippled by a slow bus. Last edited by NovaCoder; 01 July 2015 at 06:10. |
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1 : no cpu in the motherboard: > this is marketing to saving components and to sell aca cards
2 : 3.5mm jack instead 2 rca > the mobo supposedly fits on the A1200 case? I do not understand 3 : no pcmia ? 4 : no scandoubler built in: marketing to sell the indivision 5 : no external floppy conector ?? again to save components 6: no USB built in, marketing to sell the rapid road *** sincerely I don't know in which level this mobo will be better than my original A1200 motherboard: is fact I see this totally inferior |
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The point is to have a new, more reliable, fixed modern version of the A1200 motherboard with some upgrades. And this will come to you with a warranty!
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01 July 2015, 07:43 | #80 |
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And drops now obsolete and so redunant floppies
re 2: my understanding is this will be solved the same way as with C64reloaded: jack 3,5mm will just look out through the hole in the case where cinch output (left or right) normally is. re 3: thats correct. I regret this a bit as I use PCMCIA for Squirrel as well. PCMCIA-> CF will be solved by its own card slot, Ethernet will be solved through expansion slot, but my SCSI CD-ROM is useless for this board, imo. re 1, 4 and 6: I understand this, this is the way how standart PCs are sold normally, just built it together with equipment you really need to cut the price of the basic components. |
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