Day of the Tentacle CD32 [Alpha 0.1]

[earok]

I don't have a terriblefire yet, but I did a quick test with emulated fastram. It's still a bit painful panning the cursor around the screen, but the scrolling is better.

Probably a dumb question but if anyone can answer it, I'd be interested. At least from my understanding of the source code, the game does C2P conversion at draw time. Is there any particular reason it couldn't be done when the graphics are loaded, so it'd just need to do a straight blit rather than a straight blit and then a C2P conversion?

So far as I can tell the DOTT AGA source isn't available any more, but the original source (for SCUMMAGA 0.38.2) is around and maybe the DOTT AGA source could be found somewhere.

[Riempie]

DOTT AGA (novacoder version) back in The Zone.. (not the source code sadly)
Just played it again. Works great. Just some screen glitches when a screen is moving from left to right (or vice versa)

[jolly11]

Originally Posted by Riempie

DOTT AGA (novacoder version) back in The Zone.. (not the source code sadly)
Just played it again. Works great. Just some screen glitches when a screen is moving from left to right (or vice versa)

do you also have the cd32 version?

[earok]

I don't have a copy of the CD32 version myself any more but it'd be quick to put it back together. There isn't a great deal of value in of itself though - without smooth cursor movement at least it's basically unplayable.

Let me know if you still want it though, and I'll slap it back together.

[jolly11]

yes of course, if it's possible..I love DotT and I'd like to play it on amiga cd32.
Played it even on my 286, so I'm used to slow-motion

[solidcore]

@jolly11 from what I saw it's terribly unplayable in that youtube video, however saying that TF328 may help a bit. And hopefully, we get some kind of vampire 2 for the cd32. Early days yet we could all be playing it on a cd32 at full speed one day :P

[earok]

I'll see if I can get it sorted out in the next few days.

I've zoned a weird curiosity when I was poking around, there's actually abandoned AMOS port of DOTT (Only a room or two I think).

[jolly11]

any news?

[NovaCoder]

Originally Posted by solidcore

@jolly11 from what I saw it's terribly unplayable in that youtube video, however saying that TF328 may help a bit.

With the TF328 you'd probably be better off running my latest port of ScummVM AGA (and using that to run DOTT)

[solidcore]

@novacodeer I'll give it a try, you got a link ? Thanks mate.

[NovaCoder]

Originally Posted by solidcore

@novacodeer I'll give it a try, you got a link ? Thanks mate.

http://aminet.net/package/game/misc/ScummVM_AGA_030

I've no idea how much FASTRAM it needs (the readme states 32MB but that was just a guess)

Originally Posted by earok

Probably a dumb question but if anyone can answer it, I'd be interested. At least from my understanding of the source code, the game does C2P conversion at draw time. Is there any particular reason it couldn't be done when the graphics are loaded, so it'd just need to do a straight blit rather than a straight blit and then a C2P conversion?

Although this should be possible it would require a massive re-write of ScummVM (which is why I never tried it)

A better speed-up is to stop the screen getting redrawn every time the mouse cursor moves, I had a plan to use a Bobby to drawn the cursor and skip a ton of screen updates but never got around to trying it.

[solidcore]

Nova appreciate your message I hope to try it soon and please do your optimizations I'm sure others here would appreciate that in order for her to run more Smoothly .

Chris

[Amiga1992]

Originally Posted by NovaCoder

A better speed-up is to stop the screen getting redrawn every time the mouse cursor used, I had a plan to use a hardware sprite to drawn the cursor and skip a ton of screen updates but never got around to trying it.

Oh, that would be very cool! Indeed I had no idea you were doing that.
Hopefully you find time to try to implement it I think the game doesn't run so bad if you consider all other Lucasfilm adventure games like Indy 4! A little push might be all it needs to be acceptable.

[Amigajay]

Actually plays alot better and faster for CD32 users with FastRAM using the alpha Earok made.

[earok]

@Amigajay do you still have a copy of that alpha..? If so, could you please upload it for Jolly? Cheers.

@NovaCoder brilliant idea re: mouse cursor

[Amigajay]

I've uploaded it to the zone.

[DDNI]

Originally Posted by Amigajay

I've uploaded it to the zone.

I know its not a real CD32 and I can run it in SCUMMVM but I had to test... With RUNinUAE CD32 on my AmigaOne X1000. It is super fast! I was expecting a crawl fest, but it is absolutely amazing!
Certainly running at least twice as fast as is needed... I am now looking for the speed controls. Keep hitting F10 and quitting

Brilliant job. Definitely going to try it if I ever get myself a TF328.

[Amiga1992]

That is really fast indeed, the game runs as fast/slow as Indiana Jones And The Fate Of Atlantis, which is amazing!
The only issue is still the mouse pointer. If Novacoder could look into that code, it would be perfect. I think if you fix that, you got yourself an amazing game!

[jolly11]

when I select the right code, the game freezes on my unexpanded cd32

[thairacerjp]

Originally Posted by earok

So I found DOTT AGA the other day and thought I'd give it a try on a CD32. I'm spread very thin between various CD32-related projects so it'd be great if someone else takes over on this.


What's good:
- It works!
- BlazeWCP isn't needed on a CD32, as WriteChunkyPixels is hardware accelerated by Akiko
- Playable with gamepad, using Fakemouse driver and Joy2key2
(Press Reverse to skip cutscene, Play to access menu)

What's not so good:
- It's -slow- not sure if it's possible to squeeze much more speed out of the version of ScummVM it's based on the incredibly limited power of the stock CD32.
- Won't work on an SX32 etc
- Music is very inaccurate due to the automated mod-to-midi conversion. Maybe we could convert the MIDI files to CD Audio and play it back that way (assuming there's less than 80 or so minutes of music, I have no idea)
- Not currently using the full speech of the CD-ROM version
- Novacoder's version might be a better base to use? I haven't been able to find this though
- Saving will likely never be a possibility (due to the 1kb NVRAM available) and there's no pre-saves. We may to create a massive bunch of save games that break the whole game down into bite sized chunks.

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Thanks earok, NocaCoder for give CD32 this nice game i had never player before (shame on ME !) , i have tried the CD version who is playable on my TF328 extension and the "DOTT_AGA (NovaCoder)(Full Talkie)" who is near full screen but more laggy but the speech is great , my question is why earok your version have no speech ? is it becose the cd speed or the memory of a stock CD32 ? and i haven't to install the ScummVM program, is it include in the game ?
have a nice day !
cheers
jean.
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