A590 Dead? Or just the HDD inside?

Fingerlickin_B · 27 September 2011, 07:19

Hi folks, been a while, but need some help

I just scored an A590.

The HDD spins, the activity light flickers for a bit after you turn it on & the RAM is available to the system.

The problem: When I try to use HDToolBox, it says there is no HDD in the system.

Also, if I hold both mouse buttons at start-up, it shows DF0 only.

Now, does this mean that it cannot see the A590's SCSI controller? Or if the HDD is dead, it will report no device found?

If the HDD is the problem, can I use one of these in conjunction with a newer drive? http://www.ebay.com/itm/230674941600...fvi%3D1&_rdc=1

PZ.

Jope · 27 September 2011, 07:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fingerlickin_B

If the HDD is the problem, can I use one of these in conjunction with a newer drive? http://www.ebay.com/itm/230674941600...fvi%3D1&_rdc=1

Yes, you can.

Fingerlickin_B · 27 September 2011, 07:37

That's good news, thanks Jope!

I'm not familiar with SCSI things, so had no idea

PZ.

alexh · 27 September 2011, 13:20

Newer drives are 80-pin SCSI and need a different powered adapter.

Fingerlickin_B · 27 September 2011, 14:15

Ok, thanks Alex. I was looking at 68 pin ones, which seem plentiful over here.

Jope is still correct on the 68 pin - 50 pin adaptor I assume...

PZ.

Oh, would a "narrow" SCSI drive work with the A590? (whatever that means)

PZ.

alexh · 27 September 2011, 14:45

A590 _is_ a narrow SCSI host controller.

"Narrow" drives are likely to be the oldest BTW

Fingerlickin_B · 27 September 2011, 14:46

Cool, found some nearby!

Thanks guys

PZ.

Matt020 · 27 September 2011, 16:11

Got pics??

Fingerlickin_B · 28 September 2011, 00:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt020

Got pics??

Of what? The A590?

It's just a filthy old A590, not much to look at

PZ.

Loedown · 28 September 2011, 05:01

If you struggle to get any drives I know I have some spare SCSI ones that will fit in the A590 and they have a 50 pin IDC header on them.

TjLaZer · 28 September 2011, 05:28

Make sure you have Rev 7.0 ROMs to help with larger drives. I have a set if you need them.

Fingerlickin_B · 28 September 2011, 10:48

Thanks for both the offers guys!

How much $$$ for each of your offerings?

PZ.

Loedown · 28 September 2011, 11:32

I'll have a look and see what I have size wise, give you an answer tomorrow.

Fingerlickin_B · 28 September 2011, 12:50

@Loedown: Please don't put too much effort into your search, as I just got a cheapie HDD on eBay...however it might not last long! LOL

PZ.

orange · 28 September 2011, 14:15

@Fingerlickin_B

I think A590 looks cool, it goes well with A500 look.
too bad its only 2Mb, wish there was an easy hack to add some more RAM.

Fingerlickin_B · 29 September 2011, 02:08

Better than none Orange

I actually forgot the A590 gave an extra 2mb until after I bought it...so it was a nice surprise! hehehe

PZ.

Loedown · 29 September 2011, 11:34

One more night, been out at the Royal Melbourne Show all day in the worst September day in living memory!

Absolutely knackered.

Fingerlickin_B · 29 September 2011, 12:46

No rush man, cheapo HDD is working well (seemingly, formatting now) with new PSU

PZ.

TTD · 29 September 2011, 15:00

I do not know excatly to this SCSI controller a590.

So maybe you allready have done this, but maybe you should check your SCSI ID numbers for your SCSI card (normally 7 or highest) and or your harddrives (0 lowest), remember that they also need to be terminated or closed the SCSI chain correctly, sometimes SCSI ID numbers conflicts and if the board has same number one thing does not work as it should, number 0 it can easy conflict the ID number with the harddrive.

Take just this as and advice, I would just say if you have done this, then forget my reply.

It looks that you got it to work, good job.

Fingerlickin_B · 29 September 2011, 15:09

Working great!

But really old ROMs mean limited HHD space available (hoping to replace soon).

No problems with drive set to address 0.

I think I read somewhere that the A590 is adress 5 by default, but can't find anything by googling right now...

*edit* Also, can anyone tell me if the top-mounted fan is blow-though or draw-through? This is another thing that needs replacing & I'd rather do it right

PZ.

27 September 2011, 07:19	#1
Fingerlickin_B Amiga Nut Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Belco, Australia Posts: 2,242	A590 Dead? Or just the HDD inside? Hi folks, been a while, but need some help I just scored an A590. The HDD spins, the activity light flickers for a bit after you turn it on & the RAM is available to the system. The problem: When I try to use HDToolBox, it says there is no HDD in the system. Also, if I hold both mouse buttons at start-up, it shows DF0 only. Now, does this mean that it cannot see the A590's SCSI controller? Or if the HDD is dead, it will report no device found? If the HDD is the problem, can I use one of these in conjunction with a newer drive? http://www.ebay.com/itm/230674941600...fvi%3D1&_rdc=1 PZ.

27 September 2011, 14:15	#5
Fingerlickin_B Amiga Nut Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Belco, Australia Posts: 2,242	Ok, thanks Alex. I was looking at 68 pin ones, which seem plentiful over here. Jope is still correct on the 68 pin - 50 pin adaptor I assume... PZ. Oh, would a "narrow" SCSI drive work with the A590? (whatever that means) PZ. Last edited by TCD; 27 September 2011 at 14:32.

29 September 2011, 15:00	#19
TTD Registered User Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Copenhagen/Denmark Posts: 144	I do not know excatly to this SCSI controller a590. So maybe you allready have done this, but maybe you should check your SCSI ID numbers for your SCSI card (normally 7 or highest) and or your harddrives (0 lowest), remember that they also need to be terminated or closed the SCSI chain correctly, sometimes SCSI ID numbers conflicts and if the board has same number one thing does not work as it should, number 0 it can easy conflict the ID number with the harddrive. Take just this as and advice, I would just say if you have done this, then forget my reply. It looks that you got it to work, good job. Last edited by TTD; 29 September 2011 at 15:03. Reason: Was just reading first post and most of the replys but not your last until know

29 September 2011, 15:09	#20
Fingerlickin_B Amiga Nut Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Belco, Australia Posts: 2,242	Working great! But really old ROMs mean limited HHD space available (hoping to replace soon). No problems with drive set to address 0. I think I read somewhere that the A590 is adress 5 by default, but can't find anything by googling right now... edit Also, can anyone tell me if the top-mounted fan is blow-though or draw-through? This is another thing that needs replacing & I'd rather do it right PZ. Last edited by Fingerlickin_B; 29 September 2011 at 15:17.

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27 September 2011, 07:37	#3
Fingerlickin_B Amiga Nut Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Belco, Australia Posts: 2,242	That's good news, thanks Jope! I'm not familiar with SCSI things, so had no idea PZ.

27 September 2011, 13:20	#4
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,354	Newer drives are 80-pin SCSI and need a different powered adapter.

27 September 2011, 14:45	#6
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,354	A590 _is_ a narrow SCSI host controller. "Narrow" drives are likely to be the oldest BTW

27 September 2011, 14:46	#7
Fingerlickin_B Amiga Nut Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Belco, Australia Posts: 2,242	Cool, found some nearby! Thanks guys PZ.

27 September 2011, 16:11	#8
Matt020 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: West Australia Age: 47 Posts: 210	Got pics??

28 September 2011, 05:01	#10
Loedown Precious & fragile things Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Victoria, Australia Posts: 1,946	If you struggle to get any drives I know I have some spare SCSI ones that will fit in the A590 and they have a 50 pin IDC header on them.

28 September 2011, 05:28	#11
TjLaZer Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Tacoma, WA USA Age: 52 Posts: 1,918	Make sure you have Rev 7.0 ROMs to help with larger drives. I have a set if you need them.

28 September 2011, 10:48	#12
Fingerlickin_B Amiga Nut Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Belco, Australia Posts: 2,242	Thanks for both the offers guys! How much $$$ for each of your offerings? PZ.

28 September 2011, 11:32	#13
Loedown Precious & fragile things Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Victoria, Australia Posts: 1,946	I'll have a look and see what I have size wise, give you an answer tomorrow.

28 September 2011, 12:50	#14
Fingerlickin_B Amiga Nut Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Belco, Australia Posts: 2,242	@Loedown: Please don't put too much effort into your search, as I just got a cheapie HDD on eBay...however it might not last long! LOL PZ.

28 September 2011, 14:15	#15
orange Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Belgrade Posts: 567	@Fingerlickin_B I think A590 looks cool, it goes well with A500 look. too bad its only 2Mb, wish there was an easy hack to add some more RAM.

29 September 2011, 02:08	#16
Fingerlickin_B Amiga Nut Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Belco, Australia Posts: 2,242	Better than none Orange I actually forgot the A590 gave an extra 2mb until after I bought it...so it was a nice surprise! hehehe PZ.

29 September 2011, 11:34	#17
Loedown Precious & fragile things Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Victoria, Australia Posts: 1,946	One more night, been out at the Royal Melbourne Show all day in the worst September day in living memory! Absolutely knackered.

29 September 2011, 12:46	#18
Fingerlickin_B Amiga Nut Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Belco, Australia Posts: 2,242	No rush man, cheapo HDD is working well (seemingly, formatting now) with new PSU PZ.

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