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Old 20 September 2011, 20:06   #1
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OK Jesus on e's and risky woods (possibly others aswell)

will not run from floppys on my 1200 with a 4gb ide cf installed.

If i remove the cf then these suddenly work fine.

why is this?

Edit: tryed disabling CC0 and DH0 etc from boot menu but makes no difference

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Old 20 September 2011, 23:43   #2
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OK Jesus on e's and risky woods (possibly others aswell)

will not run from floppys on my 1200 with a 4gb ide cf installed.

If i remove the cf then these suddenly work fine.

why is this?

Edit: tryed disabling CC0 and DH0 etc from boot menu but makes no difference
More info,

What specs, i.e. ram expansion etc etc?
How do they not run / crash?
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Old 21 September 2011, 08:21   #3
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More info,

What specs, i.e. ram expansion etc etc?
How do they not run / crash?
Sorry, stock 1200.
Jesus on e's loads up to the point where the screen goes dark, just before it tells you to insert disk 2 then power light flashes and Amiga reboots.

Risky woods loads a little bit after the cracktro (both TRSI And Flashtro cracks are the same) then power light flashes and Amiga reboots.

If I remove the IDE cable from the board then they both work perfect.
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Sorry, stock 1200.
Jesus on e's loads up to the point where the screen goes dark, just before it tells you to insert disk 2 then power light flashes and Amiga reboots.

Risky woods loads a little bit after the cracktro (both TRSI And Flashtro cracks are the same) then power light flashes and Amiga reboots.

If I remove the IDE cable from the board then they both work perfect.
HDD RDB config issue?

To many buffers? I normally set buffers to 30, this way its should'nt effect stuff needing more RAM.
Plus you can always add more buffers later on via addbuffers command if needed.
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Old 21 September 2011, 10:32   #5
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Buffers are 30 cf works perfect, setup using a guide on here. (KillerGorilla) I think.
Edit: buffers are 100 as per the guide, what's the easiest way to change them to 30 or do I need to set the whole drive up again.

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Buffers are 30 cf works perfect, setup using a guide on here. (KillerGorilla) I think.
Edit: buffers are 100 as per the guide, what's the easiest way to change them to 30 or do I need to set the whole drive up again.
HDTOOLBOX, then alter buffers for each partition.
DONT touch anything else, then save changes and reboot.

It wont effect any data on the drive, as long as you dont mess with other stuff.
I think you can safely alter buffers and RDB Filesystem without screwing up your data.
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Old 21 September 2011, 12:13   #7
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HDTOOLBOX, then alter buffers for each partition.
DONT touch anything else, then save changes and reboot.

It wont effect any data on the drive, as long as you dont mess with other stuff.
I think you can safely alter buffers and RDB Filesystem without screwing up your data.
Ok thanks, I will try when I get home from work.
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Could also be a flakey PSU with the CF card just drawing a little too much.
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Could also be a flakey PSU with the CF card just drawing a little too much.
Tried an original a1200 supply and an a500 heavy
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Hmmm interesting problem.
Does this happen on a cold boot? I mean power up with floppy in the drive.

The reason I suggest this that as it works after removing the IDE. Then I assume the successful boot is after a power down to remove the IDE. It could just be something resident from the HDD causing the crash.
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Hmmm interesting problem.
Does this happen on a cold boot?
yes and changing the buffers to 30 didn't fix it either
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have you a different ide device you can hook up tp the board?
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It now sounds like some sort of memory issue, whether it be mapping or similar, both disks load to a point and then crash, or something is being overwritten that's resident.
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have you a different ide device you can hook up tp the board?
Unfortunately no,

Is there anyway to get to the purple "insert disk" screen without disconnecting the IDE cable?

Disabling DH0 etc just gives 'not a dos disk'
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Unfortunately no,

Is there anyway to get to the purple "insert disk" screen without disconnecting the IDE cable?

Disabling DH0 etc just gives 'not a dos disk'
Now thats very odd. It should'nt do that.
Do you have more than one partition?
If so, try disabling them all, i.e. DH0, DH1, etc etc.
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Now thats very odd. It should'nt do that.
Do you have more than one partition?
If so, try disabling them all, i.e. DH0, DH1, etc etc.
3 partitions, tried disabling them all - makes no difference.
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If it only happens with this specific CF: Perhaps it has bad/corrupted or incompatible filesystem(s) installed in RDB?
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If it only happens with this specific CF: Perhaps it has bad/corrupted or incompatible filesystem(s) installed in RDB?
CF was 'cleaned' with Diskpart clean then setup with this guide http://wiki.abime.net/amigaos_workbench/sfs

It appears to work fine but gives 'not a dos disk in DH0 when I disable it on boot and definitely interferes with certain floppy disks loading.

I can try a different cf if you think it might help.

It's a sandisk ultra II.
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CF was 'cleaned' with Diskpart clean then setup with this guide http://wiki.abime.net/amigaos_workbench/sfs

It appears to work fine but gives 'not a dos disk in DH0 when I disable it on boot and definitely interferes with certain floppy disks loading.

I can try a different cf if you think it might help.

It's a sandisk ultra II.
I only used to get this, if I set the unformatted drive priority higher than my boot drive.

I agree with Toni though, definately seems like a dodgy RDB / filesystem issue.
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I only used to get this, if I set the unformatted drive priority higher than my boot drive.

I agree with Toni though, definately seems like a dodgy RDB / filesystem issue.
Tried 2 different cf cards. 1gb transcend and 1gb sandisk. They both work fine just the same as my 4gb sandisk.
They both boot ClassicWB without ant issues but they also both interfere with Jesus on e's and risky woods(and likely others to).

If I remove the IDE adapter or even just remove the cf card from the adapter then the above mentioned titles work perfect.
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