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Old 05 May 2020, 16:50   #3321
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@AMIGASYSTEM ... So, that happens on AfA_OS with MUI 5, right?

I don't use MUI 5.x, nor any newer PatchASL for MUI. The one on Aminet is from 1996.

Where comes your PatchASL from and which MUI version is that exactly?

How much stack are you using with StackAttack?
Does that happen without AfA's icon_lib.exe installed, too?
Does it still happen without my icon.library or using RemLib?
Did you already try an older icon.library like 527? You can also try the latest version and use "ConvertTrueColor" to switch to 020 mode without the new buffers to see if that avoids the crashes, but then don't save your icons.

Maybe this ASL requester and MUI are running in the task context of Workbench and are doing some things with my new buffers which I didn't expect yet from the WB.

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Old 05 May 2020, 19:23   #3322
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I tried several OS, with your library and the standard OS 3.9 library, I also tried a high stack but if there are many high bit images in the folder the system crashes.

I enclose video tests, used A4000/040/256 MB Ram, OS 3.9 standard + BB4 + JIT + JFIFdt44 and Icon.library OS 3.9, later tried also with your library, the result doesn't change.

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https://drive.google.com/open?id=1mJ...z7w8eF5bZ2rT18
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Old 05 May 2020, 20:09   #3323
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In your video you are using WBPattern, but from my experience WBPattern is one of the most buggy programs of the OS, no matter which version.

Please, try to load the same images with MultiView or another application using this MUI PatchASL file requester. If that works without a crash I would expect WBPattern to be the culprit.
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Old 05 May 2020, 20:13   #3324
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In fact, I suspect that WBPattern is the culprit too, I suspect WBPattern sometimes did it with the standard GUI MUI, I should find a replacement for WBPattern, i have to try CGWBPattern.
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For unknown reason WBPattern scans the complete contents of a directory before it displays the entries in a file requester, and that can take extremely long. On my quite fast WinUAE system it can take several minutes before I get any feedback in the requester when I open one of my main data partitions with hundreds of folders and thousands of files. Doing the same in DOpus4 I get the result in two seconds.
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Old 05 May 2020, 20:58   #3326
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Tested CGWBPattern and behaves the same as WBPatter, also happens with Multiview and OS3.1 RTG, the Guru is different every time.
It could also be the fault of PatchASL or the Datatype

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Old 06 May 2020, 12:29   #3327
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Ok, I will have a look at it, although I don't like to install MUI5 on any of my systems. It could also be something caused by a broken datatype descriptor in Devs:datatypes or a conflict between some of them? Maybe I can find it by removing most of the descriptor files. But never try to put them into a subdir like "disabled", because that trick doesn't work with datatype descriptors, since all subdirs of Devs:datatypes are also scanned.

And Enforcer, MungWall, WipeOut, SegTracker and other debug tools may help to find culprit, too.
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Old 06 May 2020, 12:42   #3328
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Tested CGWBPattern and behaves the same as WBPatter, also happens with Multiview and OS3.1 RTG, the Guru is different every time.
Same here.

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It could also be the fault of PatchASL or the Datatype
MUI5 PatchASL is buggy, it doesn't even show all the files and drawers in my Windows directory.
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Old 06 May 2020, 13:40   #3329
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Same here.
MUI5 PatchASL is buggy, it doesn't even show all the files and drawers in my Windows directory.
MUI5 PatchASL work on all the systems also on OS 3.1, see screenshots, you must have updated datatype, especially for AfA OS otherwise you have the black background behind the icons...

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Old 06 May 2020, 15:47   #3330
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This is the problem:

DH5 (Windows) with MagicASL:



DH5 with MUI5 PatchASL:

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James you have to change the mode by clicking with the mouse, on the left "on the folder" to see the images (there are more modes), the tab on the right instead shows the volumes.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1w7G...5Vn9mqf8n/view
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James you have to change the mode by clicking with the mouse, on the left "on the folder" to see the images (there are more modes), the tab on the right instead shows the volumes.
I know, but you have missed the point - MUI5 PatchASL is showing less than half of the contents of my Windows directory.
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I know, but you have missed the point - MUI5 PatchASL is showing less than half of the contents of my Windows directory.
Ok now I think I got it, I tried to copy AmikitX to a Windows folder named DH5, and I had no problem to see all the folders and all the files

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Tested CGWBPattern and behaves the same as WBPatter, also happens with Multiview and OS3.1 RTG, the Guru is different every time.
It could also be the fault of PatchASL or the Datatype
Hi Carlo,

I wanted to test CGWBPattern 1.07 now, can install the patch and start the prefs program, but the background images for my WB 3.9/3.1.4 are always just flashing for a few micro seconds and then disappear for ever again. It's on WinUAE with P96, 32 bit RTG screen, and I tried IFF and JPEG pictures in CGX mode or mapped modes, but nothing works.

Did you solve your PatchASL problem now?
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Hi Carlo,

I wanted to test CGWBPattern 1.07 now, can install the patch and start the prefs program, but the background images for my WB 3.9/3.1.4 are always just flashing for a few micro seconds and then disappear for ever again. It's on WinUAE with P96, 32 bit RTG screen, and I tried IFF and JPEG pictures in CGX mode or mapped modes, but nothing works.
I don't have any problem with OS 3.1.4 RTG + CGWBPattern + PatchASL
you have to use JFIFdt44 and akPNG.datatype or WarpPNG.datatype, see screenshot


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Problems disappear when all images have been stored in the Cache, see video:


https://drive.google.com/open?id=19a...8fuV8iMyYd-9dR

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Old 07 May 2020, 10:28   #3336
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Look at your screenshot Carlo, there is no pattern or wallpaper image selected in the CGWBPattern preferences GUI. You are only demonstrating that your PatchASL requester works with it, but did you really activate a wallpaper with CGWBPattern successfully or was that still done with WBPattern?
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Ok now I think I got it, I tried to copy AmikitX to a Windows folder named DH5, and I had no problem to see all the folders and all the files
Looks like it only happens when I assign my Windows drive as C:\
When I assign a sub-directory, like C:\Users, all files and drawers appear.
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Look at your screenshot Carlo, there is no pattern or wallpaper image selected in the CGWBPattern preferences GUI. You are only demonstrating that your PatchASL requester works with it, but did you really activate a wallpaper with CGWBPattern successfully or was that still done with WBPattern?

No with CGWBPattern I only tested the GUI if it went to Crash, and in fact it goes to Crash, to use CGWBPattern you need the CyberGraphics
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There are several versions of PatchASL in MUI 5-2019 R1, R2, R3 and R4 and they all give the same problem, in the older versions it seems to be more accentuated
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Thanks Carlo, I've removed CGWBPattern again. And sorry, I still didn't check MUI5 with ASLPatch, I was too tired this afternoon, just sleeping several hours ...

Just a little chance to fix the crashes, you could try my MemTrailer with different options like "MemTrailer 96" or 64 or 32. Maybe it is a memory trashing which can be caught by the trailer, but I don't know.
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