PC Problem

BippyM · 05 June 2007, 13:31

Hi guys, took the hd out of a friends 1200 (HD works fine as I tested it first) and attached to my pc.

It shows up in the bios, but windows will not detect it, and neither will winuae. I tried the -disablehdsafety command and it allows me to add my PC hd's just not this one!

any ideas?

Shoonay · 05 June 2007, 13:36

Wrong master/slave/cable selection?
First, make sure it'll add itself on the windows devices list, than it'll be visible in WinUAE.

Maybe try a USB IDE/SATA connector?

---=== EDITED ===---
I'm assuming that by saying: "windows will not detect it" you mean the [My computer] hd list, not the devices installed?

BippyM · 05 June 2007, 13:50

It's connected properly as slave, my bios correctly identifies the HD and size!

Windows won't detect it, if I scan for hardware changes it briefly appears in device manager and then vanishes again!

Shoonay · 05 June 2007, 13:53

XP, right? I seem to remember that it usually detects the drive and vanishes, but all you have to do is recheck again and/or restart.

Toni Wilen · 05 June 2007, 13:55

Try in single drive setup. Old drives can have compatibility problems with other drives.

BippyM · 05 June 2007, 13:56

I would but my mobo only has 1 ide header, and my boot drive is Ide

Shoonay · 05 June 2007, 13:58

USB bippz

BippyM · 05 June 2007, 13:59

not got an enclosure... yet :/

Zetr0 · 05 June 2007, 20:08

bippy, are you using 98 or XP ?

If XP

goto: start >> run... >>"cmd"

in CLI type

"diskpart"
"list disk"

You should see the drive in the list of selectable drives, all you have to do then is

"select disk *" (*add the disk number here)
"assign"

you can use the option "help" if you need to refer to syntax

If diskpart cannot see the device then the MBR had been configured in such a way that Windows cannot understand it.

The way arround that would be to use Partition magic or XP recovery consol (command fixMBR), the latter however may corrupt the partition table... (may... not sure.)

thomas · 06 June 2007, 07:50

Quote:

If diskpart cannot see the device then the MBR had been configured in such a way that Windows cannot understand it.

Remember that he wants to read an Amiga disk on the PC. There is no MBR on an Amiga HDD. If you try to "fix" that, all Amiga data will be lost. You should not use any MBR tool on an Amiga drive.

Zetr0 · 06 June 2007, 09:09

@thomas.

This is a very good point. I have though about this a bit more, could this ide hard disk be an old not standard LBA disk ?

it seems peculiar that the device can be inquired by the BIOS but not seen as it was by windows.

what thoughts have you on this ?

Arnie · 06 June 2007, 20:09

All Amiga formated Harddrives I have used never show up in windows!.
If it`s not showing up in Winuae then I would be inclined to think that it`s either faulty or formated wrong?.
Also when you say it`s not showing in Winuae, do you mean in the Gui or Hdtoolbox?.

Toni Wilen · 06 June 2007, 20:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arnie

All Amiga formated Harddrives I have used never show up in windows!.

Of course they do, in device manager (and "disk management")

thomas · 06 June 2007, 20:38

Quote:

All Amiga formated Harddrives I have used never show up in windows!.

Well, "shows up in Windows" can mean different things. Of course an Amiga drive does not appear as a drive letter in Windows Explorer. Once the Amiga drive has a drive letter, it is no longer an Amiga drive, all Amiga data is lost.

But if you right-click on My Computer and choose Manage, and then open the Volume Management, the drive should appear in the list as empty and uninitialised.

Quote:

what thoughts have you on this ?

I don't know. I tried connecting an Amiga drive to the PC only once and it was a quite modern 20GB drive.

05 June 2007, 13:31	#1
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	PC Problem Hi guys, took the hd out of a friends 1200 (HD works fine as I tested it first) and attached to my pc. It shows up in the bios, but windows will not detect it, and neither will winuae. I tried the -disablehdsafety command and it allows me to add my PC hd's just not this one! any ideas?

05 June 2007, 20:08	#9
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	bippy, are you using 98 or XP ? If XP goto: start >> run... >>"cmd" in CLI type "diskpart" "list disk" You should see the drive in the list of selectable drives, all you have to do then is "select disk " (add the disk number here) "assign" you can use the option "help" if you need to refer to syntax If diskpart cannot see the device then the MBR had been configured in such a way that Windows cannot understand it. The way arround that would be to use Partition magic or XP recovery consol (command fixMBR), the latter however may corrupt the partition table... (may... not sure.)

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05 June 2007, 13:36	#2
Shoonay Global Caturator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Porando Age: 43 Posts: 6,105	Wrong master/slave/cable selection? First, make sure it'll add itself on the windows devices list, than it'll be visible in WinUAE. Maybe try a USB IDE/SATA connector? ---=== EDITED ===--- I'm assuming that by saying: "windows will not detect it" you mean the [My computer] hd list, not the devices installed?

05 June 2007, 13:50	#3
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	It's connected properly as slave, my bios correctly identifies the HD and size! Windows won't detect it, if I scan for hardware changes it briefly appears in device manager and then vanishes again!

05 June 2007, 13:53	#4
Shoonay Global Caturator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Porando Age: 43 Posts: 6,105	XP, right? I seem to remember that it usually detects the drive and vanishes, but all you have to do is recheck again and/or restart.

05 June 2007, 13:55	#5
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,505	Try in single drive setup. Old drives can have compatibility problems with other drives.

05 June 2007, 13:56	#6
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	I would but my mobo only has 1 ide header, and my boot drive is Ide

05 June 2007, 13:58	#7
Shoonay Global Caturator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Porando Age: 43 Posts: 6,105	USB bippz

05 June 2007, 13:59	#8
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	not got an enclosure... yet :/

06 June 2007, 09:09	#11
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	@thomas. This is a very good point. I have though about this a bit more, could this ide hard disk be an old not standard LBA disk ? it seems peculiar that the device can be inquired by the BIOS but not seen as it was by windows. what thoughts have you on this ?

06 June 2007, 20:09	#12
Arnie R.I.P Smudge 18-08-16 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Leicester/UK Age: 66 Posts: 3,968	All Amiga formated Harddrives I have used never show up in windows!. If it`s not showing up in Winuae then I would be inclined to think that it`s either faulty or formated wrong?. Also when you say it`s not showing in Winuae, do you mean in the Gui or Hdtoolbox?.

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