ACA500 plus? - Page 4

dalek · 21 December 2016, 12:45

Just wondering - will the Action Replay functions still work if the ACA500plus is expanded with an A1200 accelerator?

demolition · 21 December 2016, 14:11

And has any fixes been done to make AR work with A500+ and KS3.1? The original MkIII did work on a plain A500+, however not without some issues. And if the Amiga had extra fast mem, it usually didn't work at all. I guess HRTMon might be more compatible.

StingerHU · 21 December 2016, 14:40

This is awesome guys, I put a preorder yesterday ;-)

dirkies · 21 December 2016, 14:43

site now says:

Quote:

Available from: 03 Jan 2017
**Changed delivery date: Due to the high demand, we cannot guarantee that this product will be shipped before the end of the year. Please pardon the inconvenience.**

Does that mean even the early birds like me who preordered yesterday will have to wait until after the new year to get it, or is it only for those who preorder now?

liviux76 · 21 December 2016, 15:19

Just ordered mine (and paid through bank transfer)!
I can't wait to receive it... it will be my own Christmas gift!

demolition · 21 December 2016, 17:12

Also just ordered one along with an ACA1221ec and they should go well together - it sounds like useful toy for my A500.

Toni Wilen · 21 December 2016, 17:55

Action Replay is 68000 only but it has less memory and KS ROM restrictions compared to "real" AR3, at least it does not completely crash at boot with unsupported RAM and/or KS ROM versions.

HRTMon (all CPU compatible) option should become available later..

demolition · 21 December 2016, 19:07

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Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

Action Replay is 68000 only but it has less memory and KS ROM restrictions compared to "real" AR3, at least it does not completely crash at boot with unsupported RAM and/or KS ROM versions

So I should expect it to not try to destroy my floppy drive if I hook it to my A500+ which has an internal fastmem expansion? The original MkIII moved the head of the floppy drive off the edge so I had to open it and push it back manually to make the drive work again.

Toni Wilen · 21 December 2016, 20:47

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Originally Posted by demolition

So I should expect it to not try to destroy my floppy drive if I hook it to my A500+ which has an internal fastmem expansion? The original MkIII moved the head of the floppy drive off the edge so I had to open it and push it back manually to make the drive work again.

(Autoconfig) CPU socket RAM expansion? Not supported says product description page. It would not affect AR mode directly but if it conflicts with ACA500p..

demolition · 21 December 2016, 23:23

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Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

(Autoconfig) CPU socket RAM expansion? Not supported says product description page. It would not affect AR mode directly but if it conflicts with ACA500p..

You're right - it is a CPU socket expansion and I did see that it will not work with the ACA500. As long as it works with the ACA500's fastmem then it should be good.

Schoenfeld · 22 December 2016, 17:12

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Originally Posted by dirkies

Does that mean even the early birds like me who preordered yesterday will have to wait until after the new year to get it, or is it only for those who preorder now?

Even some early birds will have to wait, yes. Hell has broken lose since we're accepting orders, and we're a bit short-handed at the end of the year (employees taking their annual leave).

I got a funny eMail from a customer from Hungary who thought he'd be the first customer. That was about 2.5 hours after orders were open, and the quantity sold was already 3-digit. The notification eMail that I've sent through the shop system had a really good effect; it feels like 99.9% of the people who subscribed have ordered a unit in the first hour, then shared the information wherever they are active. I can see a chunk of orders from Finland, then another chunk from Italy and so on. Looks like people are discussing this in social networks in their native language, then they all agree that it's a cool thing and buy it :-)

Oh, and there must be actual meetings ("real life"), too. I just added an Australian customer to the database who not only lives in the same city as a recent new Australian customer, but even in the same street. I can only speculate, but it's likely that they know each other.

Jens

BarryB · 22 December 2016, 17:35

Jens, will this be available from places like Amigakit or only from yourself?

Schoenfeld · 22 December 2016, 19:40

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Originally Posted by BarryB

Jens, will this be available from places like Amigakit or only from yourself?

This is not yet a reseller item. Development was way too expensive, and I don't even ask my resellers any more if they want to co-finance a development, as all I get is either "no", or demands that are totally out of proportion.

Jens

BarryB · 22 December 2016, 22:01

Thanks, pre-ordered

1time · 22 December 2016, 22:56

Looks like the Apollo team and yourself (Schoenfeld) is doing great without the resellers!

Keep the good work up!

BarryB · 22 December 2016, 23:05

It's a shame no resellers are involved, but all money deservedly to the developer! Hope at least it breaks even or dare I say, make a profit

klx300r · 23 December 2016, 04:33

pre ordered but I wonder if I can get a pass through connector for this so I can use at the beginning of my side car train on my A1000 ?

Schoenfeld · 23 December 2016, 10:23

The ACA500plus is strictly an A500 and A500+ expansion. Do not connect it to an A1000. Also, it's a "vanilla computer" expansion: Most internal expansions need to be removed for the ACA500plus to work, and there can be no second expansion on the 86-pin port of the computer.

Setups with more expansions may work, but they are not covered by product support. It's an expert's thing to judge if a certain expansion conflicts with memory/IO spaces of the ACA500plus. All required information is opened for the ACA500plus in the Wiki, and if you also have the required information about the expansion you want to add, you may be able to combine the two. However, there's no help from my side if things don't work.

The ACA500plus is already very complex on it's own. It gets way too complex if you add further hardware. Testing and supporting such setups would mean endless combinatorial tables that would help only very few people, but add massively to the cost for everyone. That's not worth it.

Jens

lolafg · 23 December 2016, 12:02

Hello , sorry to ask that here as it has nothing to do with aca 500 , but will you remake some keyboards stickers ?

Thanks ans sorry again.

spudje · 23 December 2016, 18:21

@lolafg, please pick a different individual computing (icomp) thread for your question, this is solely aca500plus discussion.

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21 December 2016, 12:45	#61
dalek Registered User Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: NSW/Australia Posts: 462	Just wondering - will the Action Replay functions still work if the ACA500plus is expanded with an A1200 accelerator?

21 December 2016, 14:11	#62
demolition Unregistered User Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Copenhagen / DK Age: 43 Posts: 4,190	And has any fixes been done to make AR work with A500+ and KS3.1? The original MkIII did work on a plain A500+, however not without some issues. And if the Amiga had extra fast mem, it usually didn't work at all. I guess HRTMon might be more compatible.

21 December 2016, 14:40	#63
StingerHU Registered User Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: London,UK Posts: 54	This is awesome guys, I put a preorder yesterday ;-)

21 December 2016, 15:19	#65
liviux76 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: BO/Italy Posts: 711	Just ordered mine (and paid through bank transfer)! I can't wait to receive it... it will be my own Christmas gift!

21 December 2016, 17:12	#66
demolition Unregistered User Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Copenhagen / DK Age: 43 Posts: 4,190	Also just ordered one along with an ACA1221ec and they should go well together - it sounds like useful toy for my A500.

21 December 2016, 17:55	#67
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,502	Action Replay is 68000 only but it has less memory and KS ROM restrictions compared to "real" AR3, at least it does not completely crash at boot with unsupported RAM and/or KS ROM versions. HRTMon (all CPU compatible) option should become available later..

22 December 2016, 17:35	#72
BarryB Amigaholic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: UK Posts: 4,676	Jens, will this be available from places like Amigakit or only from yourself?

22 December 2016, 22:01	#74
BarryB Amigaholic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: UK Posts: 4,676	Thanks, pre-ordered

22 December 2016, 22:56	#75
1time Amiga Lover Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Stockholm / Sweden Age: 46 Posts: 612	Looks like the Apollo team and yourself (Schoenfeld) is doing great without the resellers! Keep the good work up!

22 December 2016, 23:05	#76
BarryB Amigaholic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: UK Posts: 4,676	It's a shame no resellers are involved, but all money deservedly to the developer! Hope at least it breaks even or dare I say, make a profit

23 December 2016, 04:33	#77
klx300r Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,593	pre ordered but I wonder if I can get a pass through connector for this so I can use at the beginning of my side car train on my A1000 ?

23 December 2016, 10:23	#78
Schoenfeld electricky. Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: out in the wild Posts: 1,256	The ACA500plus is strictly an A500 and A500+ expansion. Do not connect it to an A1000. Also, it's a "vanilla computer" expansion: Most internal expansions need to be removed for the ACA500plus to work, and there can be no second expansion on the 86-pin port of the computer. Setups with more expansions may work, but they are not covered by product support. It's an expert's thing to judge if a certain expansion conflicts with memory/IO spaces of the ACA500plus. All required information is opened for the ACA500plus in the Wiki, and if you also have the required information about the expansion you want to add, you may be able to combine the two. However, there's no help from my side if things don't work. The ACA500plus is already very complex on it's own. It gets way too complex if you add further hardware. Testing and supporting such setups would mean endless combinatorial tables that would help only very few people, but add massively to the cost for everyone. That's not worth it. Jens

23 December 2016, 12:02	#79
lolafg Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Tours/France Age: 52 Posts: 1,233	Hello , sorry to ask that here as it has nothing to do with aca 500 , but will you remake some keyboards stickers ? Thanks ans sorry again.

23 December 2016, 18:21	#80
spudje Registered User Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,406	@lolafg, please pick a different individual computing (icomp) thread for your question, this is solely aca500plus discussion.

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