DirOpus crashes from HDD but runs fine from df0:

e5frog · 07 June 2010, 01:21

So, I had an adf with DirOpus4.12CU, I used it to shuffle some files in WinUAE, worked just fine. Then I copied everything to the harddrive, all files to their respective folders not replacing newer files, most of them were copied, very few were not.

Immediately after I click the icon and the top bar says "Attempting to load..."

I get this:

"
DirectoryOpus
Program failed (error #80000004).
Wait for disk activity to finish.

Suspend Reboot
"

I did the same thing when I tried to get my WB2.1 installation to work and then it worked just fine after I copied it to the harddrive the same way.

Any ideas?

assign DOPUS: SYS: maybe?

I also got the guru meditation:
#80000003

BippyM · 07 June 2010, 01:49

CHeck to makesure all the correct libraries are copied and in libs: also check the dopus_disk etc are in c: or dopus: or dopus:modules/ etc

Zetr0 · 07 June 2010, 02:00

I get that same error when trying to run the DOPUS thats compiled for an 020 on a basic/non-cpu expanded A500.

merlinkv · 07 June 2010, 09:06

I have the same problem.... also with all files contained in DOpus (c, librarys, etc) copied to HDD and all Assigns in correct way..

I try with DOpus 4.12 & 4.16, same problems, same erros.....

daxb · 07 June 2010, 17:44

Same with DOpus 4.17?

clueless · 07 June 2010, 17:49

Snap! I had the same classicwb installation on a 600 and my 1200. The 600 was fixed by changing the setpatch version, but that didnt fix the 1200 problem. No help I know, but looking forward to some clever folks helping us out.

Toni Wilen · 07 June 2010, 17:50

80000004 and 80000003 (and no random 8000000A or 8000000B) usually means attempting to run 68020+ program (or library that program requires) on a 68000 or 68010.

Retro-Nerd · 07 June 2010, 17:55

Strange, iirc the DOpus v4.12 CU version was an Amiga 500 version.

e5frog · 08 June 2010, 01:23

I don't understand why it works as floppy but not after I've copied it to the harddrive.

BippyM · 08 June 2010, 08:36

Have you checked all the libraries, devs, s: c: contents etc.. do them one at a time until you find the culprit.. I am certain it's a lib though (novamusic.library, dopus.library) etc..

zipper · 08 June 2010, 10:52

I remember seen some stupid software that needs some exact version of a library, a newer library doesn't work.

e5frog · 08 June 2010, 11:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by bippym

Have you checked all the libraries, devs, s: c: contents etc.. do them one at a time until you find the culprit.. I am certain it's a lib though (novamusic.library, dopus.library) etc..

Aha... I also suspected a library incompability.

When I used it with a WB2.1 setup it worked by copying all missing files from the disk to each directory.
When doing the same in 3.1 it crashes - so one of those 3.1 libs that DirOpus is using is not OK from the 3.1 but works with the 2.1 version...

I'll probably copy the DirOpus version I've got on my A2000, it runs fine with WB3.1 and is set up to my liking - too bad there seem to be no old versions on Aminet.

Matt020 · 08 June 2010, 15:11

If youre installing it onto a CF drive, it'll be your Mask and/or Maxtransfer, the numbers will be wrong causing this error when loading from HDD only. There is a thread somewhere about it, possibly in the "setting up a CF drive" thread

e5frog · 08 June 2010, 17:28

I haven't seen anything about the mask but the MaxTransferUnit is set to 0x1fe00 as far as I can remember or if it was 0xffff ?

I noticed it's extremely slow if I boot from the CF on the PC with WinUAE, the installation was originally made on real hardware and then I moved the CF-card to the PC to shove in the rest.

... and I've been at this for a few days now so I'm beginning to get bored. Mostly because the transfer speed with CF-card on WinUAE is a pain. I then decided to boot via a copy in a directory instead and not transfer anything to the CF-harddrive-card until I got a setup I was pleased with. I guess I should try and install DirOpus again then to see if it works when not having a CF-card involved - if it doesn't it's probably not because of that - or I'll just copy it from the diskette into the real A600 - probably saves some time.

merlinkv · 09 June 2010, 08:09

Well......

Taking out MCP 1.45 (now using only FBlit -default config- & FText) and using DOpus 4.16 from Aminet. Programs works fine

I test all options, copy, copy as, move, move as, Arc extract, etc...... with little & big amount of files.... WORKS

My last test: Copy a entire DVD 4.3GB plenty of files to a HDD partition and, at the same time, working with a FTP client transfering files from PC to Amiga......

No more errors at this time...

e5frog · 11 June 2010, 07:24

Mcp 1.45 ?

PeterK · 11 June 2010, 07:37

Could also be a simple stack overflow problem ?!?
Use (not just try) StackAttack or MinStack on every system (with ~10000 bytes).

Matt020 · 18 June 2010, 17:34

What is MCP?

zipper · 18 June 2010, 18:25

http://main.aminet.net/pub/aminet/util/cdity/MCP130.lha - but newer versions may be available elsewhere.

Pyromania · 19 June 2010, 01:23

It works fine here, loading from a 1 Yottabyte SSD.

07 June 2010, 01:21	#1
e5frog The Headstrong Join Date: May 2010 Location: Älvängen / Sweden Age: 49 Posts: 273	DirOpus crashes from HDD but runs fine from df0: So, I had an adf with DirOpus4.12CU, I used it to shuffle some files in WinUAE, worked just fine. Then I copied everything to the harddrive, all files to their respective folders not replacing newer files, most of them were copied, very few were not. Immediately after I click the icon and the top bar says "Attempting to load..." I get this: " DirectoryOpus Program failed (error #80000004). Wait for disk activity to finish. Suspend Reboot " I did the same thing when I tried to get my WB2.1 installation to work and then it worked just fine after I copied it to the harddrive the same way. Any ideas? assign DOPUS: SYS: maybe? I also got the guru meditation: #80000003

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07 June 2010, 01:49	#2
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	CHeck to makesure all the correct libraries are copied and in libs: also check the dopus_disk etc are in c: or dopus: or dopus:modules/ etc

07 June 2010, 02:00	#3
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	I get that same error when trying to run the DOPUS thats compiled for an 020 on a basic/non-cpu expanded A500.

07 June 2010, 09:06	#4
merlinkv Amiga user since 1989 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Spain Age: 60 Posts: 119	I have the same problem.... also with all files contained in DOpus (c, librarys, etc) copied to HDD and all Assigns in correct way.. I try with DOpus 4.12 & 4.16, same problems, same erros.....

07 June 2010, 17:44	#5
daxb Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 3,304	Same with DOpus 4.17?

07 June 2010, 17:49	#6
clueless Guessing my way round Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: England Posts: 159	Snap! I had the same classicwb installation on a 600 and my 1200. The 600 was fixed by changing the setpatch version, but that didnt fix the 1200 problem. No help I know, but looking forward to some clever folks helping us out.

07 June 2010, 17:50	#7
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,516	80000004 and 80000003 (and no random 8000000A or 8000000B) usually means attempting to run 68020+ program (or library that program requires) on a 68000 or 68010.

07 June 2010, 17:55	#8
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,444	Strange, iirc the DOpus v4.12 CU version was an Amiga 500 version.

08 June 2010, 01:23	#9
e5frog The Headstrong Join Date: May 2010 Location: Älvängen / Sweden Age: 49 Posts: 273	I don't understand why it works as floppy but not after I've copied it to the harddrive.

08 June 2010, 08:36	#10
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	Have you checked all the libraries, devs, s: c: contents etc.. do them one at a time until you find the culprit.. I am certain it's a lib though (novamusic.library, dopus.library) etc..

08 June 2010, 10:52	#11
zipper Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: finland Posts: 1,838	I remember seen some stupid software that needs some exact version of a library, a newer library doesn't work.

08 June 2010, 15:11	#13
Matt020 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: West Australia Age: 47 Posts: 210	If youre installing it onto a CF drive, it'll be your Mask and/or Maxtransfer, the numbers will be wrong causing this error when loading from HDD only. There is a thread somewhere about it, possibly in the "setting up a CF drive" thread

08 June 2010, 17:28	#14
e5frog The Headstrong Join Date: May 2010 Location: Älvängen / Sweden Age: 49 Posts: 273	I haven't seen anything about the mask but the MaxTransferUnit is set to 0x1fe00 as far as I can remember or if it was 0xffff ? I noticed it's extremely slow if I boot from the CF on the PC with WinUAE, the installation was originally made on real hardware and then I moved the CF-card to the PC to shove in the rest. ... and I've been at this for a few days now so I'm beginning to get bored. Mostly because the transfer speed with CF-card on WinUAE is a pain. I then decided to boot via a copy in a directory instead and not transfer anything to the CF-harddrive-card until I got a setup I was pleased with. I guess I should try and install DirOpus again then to see if it works when not having a CF-card involved - if it doesn't it's probably not because of that - or I'll just copy it from the diskette into the real A600 - probably saves some time.

09 June 2010, 08:09	#15
merlinkv Amiga user since 1989 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Spain Age: 60 Posts: 119	Well...... Taking out MCP 1.45 (now using only FBlit -default config- & FText) and using DOpus 4.16 from Aminet. Programs works fine I test all options, copy, copy as, move, move as, Arc extract, etc...... with little & big amount of files.... WORKS My last test: Copy a entire DVD 4.3GB plenty of files to a HDD partition and, at the same time, working with a FTP client transfering files from PC to Amiga...... No more errors at this time...

11 June 2010, 07:24	#16
e5frog The Headstrong Join Date: May 2010 Location: Älvängen / Sweden Age: 49 Posts: 273	Mcp 1.45 ?

11 June 2010, 07:37	#17
PeterK Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: digital hell, Germany, after 1984, but worse Posts: 3,373	Could also be a simple stack overflow problem ?!? Use (not just try) StackAttack or MinStack on every system (with ~10000 bytes).

18 June 2010, 17:34	#18
Matt020 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: West Australia Age: 47 Posts: 210	What is MCP?

18 June 2010, 18:25	#19
zipper Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: finland Posts: 1,838	http://main.aminet.net/pub/aminet/util/cdity/MCP130.lha - but newer versions may be available elsewhere.

19 June 2010, 01:23	#20
Pyromania Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 3,375	It works fine here, loading from a 1 Yottabyte SSD.

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