Amiga Piracy Discussion! - Page 8

Eclipse · 11 March 2011, 16:28

I bet everyone on here has at least 1 .adf of a cracked Amiga game?

killergorilla · 11 March 2011, 16:30

I have a few cracked amiga games yeah...

Think I have a website lying around somewhere...

Christian · 11 March 2011, 16:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by killergorilla

I have a few cracked amiga games yeah...

Think I have a website lying around somewhere...

Hah! Pow!

Mick · 11 March 2011, 16:38

Just read a story about a guy who got 72hr suspension and is unable to play any of the EA games that he has purchased during that period for jokingly saying "Have you sold your souls to the EA devil?" on one of their game forums... that seems ridiculous to me this sort of dictatorial behaviour from publishers is what is driving more people towards piracy.

It used to be that copied games were more hassle to get working (cracks etc) than original games but with all the DRM/activation etc it's the opposite nowadays, those who pay tend to be the inconvenienced ones and then they wonder why people go the piracy route.

TCD · 11 March 2011, 16:42

Hey, we should do the same with HOL, AMR and the file server

Eclipse · 11 March 2011, 16:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick

Just read a story about a guy who got 72hr suspension and is unable to play any of the EA games that he has purchased during that period for jokingly saying "Have you sold your souls to the EA devil?" on one of their game forums... that seems ridiculous to me this sort of dictatorial behaviour from publishers is what is driving more people towards piracy.

EA is the Devil though. What's this $10 project they have now?
Oh that's right, second hand games are now as evil as pirated games.
They've started the same old ball rolling with "we get nothing for second hand".
Although that model does admittedly stop a certain amount of piracy, as you have to register and redeem codes online to play most of their games now.
Ahhh, how I remember the days of Indy 500 and Deluxe Paint.
EA you've changed

_ThEcRoW · 11 March 2011, 16:56

What would be the original psx if their game cds couldn't be copied?.
Really, majority of games were crap(there are exceptions such as resident evil, metal gear, etc...), but even people buyed psx's. It was the free getting games that put it into success.

killergorilla · 11 March 2011, 16:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by _ThEcRoW

Really, majority of games were crap

Goes for every system ever released.

_ThEcRoW · 11 March 2011, 17:39

Hehe, KG, no, seriously, compare psx's shadowman with the n64 for example.
Or games like crypt killer, excalibur, and so on...

Zetr0 · 12 March 2011, 13:32

Clearly the method of distribution and product acknowledgment (say advertisement Zetr0!) has to come out of the stone age of the 1980's and revise itself for 2010.

While we have some DLC based services and products the simple fact is the pricing is all wrong for what is a broadcast media service. In terms of law and ownership in the UK atleast most DLC products are circumventing peoples statutory rights of ownership and the right to resell what you own.

In a lot of ways large companies that throw 80% of the game budget at advertising deserve to be beaten down, not mentioning EA here, but they really are perhaps the worst offenders of this... not saying there games are bad... for the most part I would say they are generally good and well made.... however... they do "dumb" the games down too much IMHO... its like they only make games for 14 year old's to beat.

I have to admit, I wane from all the "eye-candy" style over substance. The last PC game I bought was the Orange Box a couple of years ago... and that's only because it was at £9.99

the last PS3 Game I bought was Brutal Legends... for £6.99 from cash converters... the most I have ever paid for a new game has to be "Fokelore" for the PS3 that I bought for one of my daughters Christmas presents...and that was only £18.99

If games publishers realized that 80% of the cost is in marketing and take that away from the price of the game, your spanking new StarCraft 2 (retailing in at £35 for the PC) would cost under a tenner and still give them a handsome advertising budget!

I wonder how many more titles would sell at that price????

If you want the world to change... the only vote that counts is the one you make with your wallet.

Eclipse · 12 March 2011, 14:02

Thing is though, wether I own the game or sold it to you that games company has still made from the original sale. It also costs them no more and no less to maintain DLC content or servers as their is still only 1 owner (not 2) and the fee's were again taken from the original sale.
It's greed pure and simple.

Siggy999 · 14 March 2011, 08:07

I know I also used to track down cracked versions for games I owned (a practice I started doing when I had a c64) to cut down on the knock-bump-grind and other horrible noises that came out of my disk drives on a lot of games with copy protection.

I figured I already got gouged for the game, I didn't want to add a new drive to the cost of entertainment.

Hewitson · 14 March 2011, 10:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eclipse

I bet everyone on here has at least 1 .adf of a cracked Amiga game?

20,925 here

I never bought Amiga games. Why pay money to get an often inferior version of a game with no cracktro/trainer that can't be backed up.

Bit like M$ shit really, pay money to have to deal with activation issues or download it for nothing and never have to worry about it.

gilgamesh · 14 March 2011, 11:28

Oh no, Hewitson is going to kill the industry single handedly.

killergorilla · 14 March 2011, 12:11

Hewitson is the reason Amiga died.

cosmicfrog · 14 March 2011, 12:52

yay finally we have the answer

Christian · 14 March 2011, 13:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hewitson

20,925 here

Jeez, was there ever that many disks??!

TCD · 14 March 2011, 13:44

TOSEC. Doesn't mean unique disks.

BippyM · 14 March 2011, 14:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hewitson

20,925 here

Err that is unique sales there you robbed the publishers/developers of.

You alone could have stopped the amiga dying.. You scoundrel you

modrobert · 14 March 2011, 14:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hewitson

20,925 here

Thanks for keeping Amiga alive all these years.

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11 March 2011, 16:28	#141
Eclipse Turpentine Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Kent, United Kingdom Posts: 744	I bet everyone on here has at least 1 .adf of a cracked Amiga game?

11 March 2011, 16:30	#142
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 42 Posts: 7,957	I have a few cracked amiga games yeah... Think I have a website lying around somewhere...

11 March 2011, 16:38	#144
Mick Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 710	Just read a story about a guy who got 72hr suspension and is unable to play any of the EA games that he has purchased during that period for jokingly saying "Have you sold your souls to the EA devil?" on one of their game forums... that seems ridiculous to me this sort of dictatorial behaviour from publishers is what is driving more people towards piracy. It used to be that copied games were more hassle to get working (cracks etc) than original games but with all the DRM/activation etc it's the opposite nowadays, those who pay tend to be the inconvenienced ones and then they wonder why people go the piracy route.

11 March 2011, 16:42	#145
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,525	Hey, we should do the same with HOL, AMR and the file server

11 March 2011, 16:56	#147
_ThEcRoW Amiga NetRunner Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Spain Age: 45 Posts: 941	What would be the original psx if their game cds couldn't be copied?. Really, majority of games were crap(there are exceptions such as resident evil, metal gear, etc...), but even people buyed psx's. It was the free getting games that put it into success.

11 March 2011, 17:39	#149
_ThEcRoW Amiga NetRunner Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Spain Age: 45 Posts: 941	Hehe, KG, no, seriously, compare psx's shadowman with the n64 for example. Or games like crypt killer, excalibur, and so on...

12 March 2011, 13:32	#150
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	Clearly the method of distribution and product acknowledgment (say advertisement Zetr0!) has to come out of the stone age of the 1980's and revise itself for 2010. While we have some DLC based services and products the simple fact is the pricing is all wrong for what is a broadcast media service. In terms of law and ownership in the UK atleast most DLC products are circumventing peoples statutory rights of ownership and the right to resell what you own. In a lot of ways large companies that throw 80% of the game budget at advertising deserve to be beaten down, not mentioning EA here, but they really are perhaps the worst offenders of this... not saying there games are bad... for the most part I would say they are generally good and well made.... however... they do "dumb" the games down too much IMHO... its like they only make games for 14 year old's to beat. I have to admit, I wane from all the "eye-candy" style over substance. The last PC game I bought was the Orange Box a couple of years ago... and that's only because it was at £9.99 the last PS3 Game I bought was Brutal Legends... for £6.99 from cash converters... the most I have ever paid for a new game has to be "Fokelore" for the PS3 that I bought for one of my daughters Christmas presents...and that was only £18.99 If games publishers realized that 80% of the cost is in marketing and take that away from the price of the game, your spanking new StarCraft 2 (retailing in at £35 for the PC) would cost under a tenner and still give them a handsome advertising budget! I wonder how many more titles would sell at that price???? If you want the world to change... the only vote that counts is the one you make with your wallet.

12 March 2011, 14:02	#151
Eclipse Turpentine Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Kent, United Kingdom Posts: 744	Thing is though, wether I own the game or sold it to you that games company has still made from the original sale. It also costs them no more and no less to maintain DLC content or servers as their is still only 1 owner (not 2) and the fee's were again taken from the original sale. It's greed pure and simple.

14 March 2011, 08:07	#152
Siggy999 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Las Vegas/Nevada Posts: 103	I know I also used to track down cracked versions for games I owned (a practice I started doing when I had a c64) to cut down on the knock-bump-grind and other horrible noises that came out of my disk drives on a lot of games with copy protection. I figured I already got gouged for the game, I didn't want to add a new drive to the cost of entertainment.

14 March 2011, 11:28	#154
gilgamesh Linux snob Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Monkey Island Posts: 997	Oh no, Hewitson is going to kill the industry single handedly.

14 March 2011, 12:11	#155
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 42 Posts: 7,957	Hewitson is the reason Amiga died.

14 March 2011, 12:52	#156
cosmicfrog The 1 who ribbits Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: leek, Staffs, UK Age: 56 Posts: 3,557	yay finally we have the answer

14 March 2011, 13:44	#158
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,525	TOSEC. Doesn't mean unique disks.

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