RNOEffects Released

[jPV]

Originally Posted by blade002

Well, that didn't go to plan. found the latest version of that text editor on Aminet, trying to install it does nothing but crash the system.

You mean it crashes when you're trying to install the mcc? Using the install script from its archive?

If this is the case, just copy these files to MUI:Libs/MUI/
MCC_TextEditor/Libs/MUI/AmigaOS3/TextEditor.mcc
MCC_TextEditor/Libs/MUI/AmigaOS3/TextEditor.mcp



I assume you're trying to install version 15.56, because you said you found the latest version...

[AMIGASYSTEM]

Originally Posted by blade002

Damn you're a top guy! greatly appreciated! cheers mate

Starting with an OS 3.1 Standard you need these libraries (choose the ones suitable for your CPU):


guigfx
http://aminet.net/dev/misc/guigfxlib.lha

render.library
https://aminet.net/package/dev/misc/renderlib68k

codesets.library
https://aminet.net/util/libs/codesets-6.21.lha

datatypes_39.11(WB3.0).library
https://amiga.foul.fr/index.php

TextEditor.mcc
https://aminet.net/dev/mui/MCC_TextEditor-15.56.lha

[Tarzin]

@AMIGASYSTEM,
Thanks! One of my library was wrong. Now RNOEffect works on my A1200!

[AMIGASYSTEM]

Originally Posted by Tarzin

@AMIGASYSTEM,
Thanks! One of my library was wrong. Now RNOEffect works on my A1200!

datatypes.library

[Dynamic_Computi]

What a nice program! I have been having fun with it on my Amigas for sure! A few things I have found: With some CPU intensive tasks, like the painting effect - It takes forever even on a 68040 or Vampire to process, and there is no "Status update" - it honestly just looks like the Amiga is frozen and locked up. Having a status update, or even a "Please Wait" windows or something would be awesome.
Second, I suspect it does not care about an FPU? Some effects that are quite fast in ImageFX or AdPro take a huge amount of time in RNOEffects. Having FPU support would be awesome!
I am working on a review for 10 Minute Amiga Retro Cast for this awesome software! (For the 68K version)

[jPV]

Originally Posted by Dynamic_Computi

What a nice program! I have been having fun with it on my Amigas for sure!

Nice to hear you like it!

A few things I have found: With some CPU intensive tasks, like the painting effect - It takes forever even on a 68040 or Vampire to process, and there is no "Status update" - it honestly just looks like the Amiga is frozen and locked up. Having a status update, or even a "Please Wait" windows or something would be awesome.

At least it puts the window in the sleep mode and you can't mess around with it until it ends the processing So the busy pointer should indicate when it's doing something, but adding a "Please wait" text is trivial, I'll put it in the to-do list.

Do you mean the "Draw" effect by the "painting effect"? Are all "sub effects" on it slow or is it the Freehand sub effect or so? Is the slowness in the preview mode (positioning the graphics) or when you actually apply it? If it's about positioning, it could be better to enter values from keyboard/sliders instead of the mouse...

I haven't tested that much on real 68k machines if there'd be something that would need optimizing as it's "fast enough" on NG machines and emulator setups. The Draw preview would probably have room for improvement.

Second, I suspect it does not care about an FPU? Some effects that are quite fast in ImageFX or AdPro take a huge amount of time in RNOEffects. Having FPU support would be awesome!

Yeah, it's non-FPU for 68k, but using FPU for the WarpOS version. I thought to make it more universal for 68k if there are still some issues with FPU on Vampires or something like that..

I can prepare an FPU version to test tomorrow, and let's see if it'd be any faster in practise.

I am working on a review for 10 Minute Amiga Retro Cast for this awesome software! (For the 68K version)

Cool, thanks!

[klx300r]

+1 for FPU support on 68k machines please

[DisasterIncarna]

FPU support deffo much appreciated if/when it lands

[jPV]

Here is the FPU version for testing:
https://jpv.amigaaa.com/RNOEffects/R...ts_68k_FPU.lha

Please let me know if it seems to be noticeably faster and worth to release officially.

PS. plugins are also FPU versions, so better not mix the installation with the non-FPU release.

[nickey]

Thanx jPV!

I get this error message "This program requires iconic.hwp" with the FPU version.
The program folder contains the iconic.hwp file and i have no problem with the non fpu version.

config: 1200 030/50 & 68882/50 128MB ram

[DisasterIncarna]

same on FS-UAE - OS3.2.1 - cant see any obvious fail in snoopdos either.

Count Process Name       Action     Target Name                                            Options   Res.
----- ------------       ------     -----------                                            -------   ----
1     [6] Workbench      ToolType   CLI                                                              Fail
2     [6] Workbench      ToolType   REXX                                                             Fail
3     [6] Workbench      ChangeDir  RAM:RNOEffects_68k_FPU                                               
4     [6] Workbench      ChangeDir  SYS:                                                                 
5     [6] Workbench      ToolType   TOOLPRI                                                          Fail
6     WBL                ChangeDir  RAM:RNOEffects_68k_FPU                                               
7     WBL                Load       RAM:RNOEffects_68k_FPU/RNOEffects                                OK  
8     WBL                Open       RAM:RNOEffects_68k_FPU/RNOEffects.info                 Read      OK  
9     WBL                ToolType   MCPNOCACHES                                                      Fail
10    WBL                ToolType   MCPNOVBR                                                         Fail
11    WBL                ToolType   MCPNOCYBER                                                       Fail
12    WBL                ToolType   MCPNODCACHE                                                      Fail
13    WBL                ToolType   MCPNOICACHE                                                      Fail
14    WBL                ToolType   MCPNODBURST                                                      Fail
15    WBL                ToolType   MCPNOIBURST                                                      Fail
16    WBL                ToolType   MCPNOCOPYBACK                                                    Fail
17    WBL                ToolType   MCPTIMEROFF                                                      Fail
18    WBL                ToolType   MCPNOBCACHE                                                      Fail
19    WBL                ToolType   MCPNOSTOREBUF                                                    Fail
20    WBL                ToolType   MCPHALFINST                                                      Fail
21    WBL                ToolType   MCPHALFDATA                                                      Fail
22    WBL                ToolType   MCPNOSSCALAR                                                     Fail
23    WBL                ToolType   MCPDISABLEFPU                                                    Fail
24    WBL                ToolType   MCPFLUSH                                                         Fail
25    WBL                ToolType   MCPNOMEMPATCH                                                    Fail
26    WBL                ToolType   MCPPAL                                                           Fail
27    WBL                ToolType   MCPNOAGA                                                         Fail
28    WBL                ToolType   MCPASSIGN0                                                       Fail
29    WBL                Lock       RAM:RNOEffects_68k_FPU/RNOEffects                      Read      OK  
30    WBL                ChangeDir  SYS:                                                                 
31    RNOEffects         ChangeDir  RAM:RNOEffects_68k_FPU                                               
32    RNOEffects         Open       NIL:                                                   Read      OK  
33    RNOEffects         OpenLib    codesets.library                                       Ver 0     OK  
34    RNOEffects         OpenLib    intuition.library                                      Ver 39    OK  
35    RNOEffects         OpenLib    graphics.library                                       Ver 39    OK  
36    RNOEffects         OpenLib    locale.library                                         Ver 0     OK  
37    RNOEffects         OpenLib    utility.library                                        Ver 39    OK  
38    RNOEffects         OpenLib    icon.library                                           Ver 0     OK  
39    RNOEffects         FindPort   Directory Opus                                                   Fail
40    RNOEffects         OpenLib    layers.library                                         Ver 39    OK  
41    RNOEffects         OpenLib    asl.library                                            Ver 39    OK  
42    RNOEffects         OpenLib    datatypes.library                                      Ver 39    OK  
43    RNOEffects         OpenLib    workbench.library                                      Ver 39    OK  
44    RNOEffects         OpenLib    commodities.library                                    Ver 39    OK  
45    RNOEffects         OpenLib    gadtools.library                                       Ver 0     OK  
46    RNOEffects         OpenLib    amigaguide.library                                     Ver 0     OK  
47    RNOEffects         OpenLib    keymap.library                                         Ver 37    OK  
48    RNOEffects         OpenDev    input.device                                           Unit 0    OK  
49    RNOEffects         OpenDev    timer.device                                           Unit 0    OK  
50    RNOEffects         OpenLib    cybergraphics.library                                  Ver 0     OK  
51    RNOEffects         OpenLib    Picasso96API.library                                   Ver 0     OK  
52    Hollywood wait tas OpenDev    timer.device                                           Unit 0    OK  
53    RNOEffects         LockScreen Workbench                                                        OK  
54    RNOEffects         OpenLib    SYS:Classes/DataTypes/picture.datatype                 Ver 0     OK  
55    RNOEffects         GetVar     codeset_default                                        Global    OK  
56    RNOEffects         Lock       RAM:RNOEffects_68k_FPU                                 Read      OK  
57    RNOEffects         GetVar     codeset_default                                        Global    OK  
58    RNOEffects         Lock       PROGDIR:                                               Read      OK  
59    RNOEffects         OpenLib    iffparse.library                                       Ver 37    OK  
60    RNOEffects         Open       PROGDIR:Catalogs/english_british/Hollywood/Hollywood.c Read      Fail
61    RNOEffects         GetVar     locale.library.debug                                   Any       Fail
62    RNOEffects         OpenLib    iffparse.library                                       Ver 37    OK  
63    RNOEffects         Open       LOCALE:Catalogs/english_british/Hollywood/Hollywood.ca Read      Fail
64    RNOEffects         GetVar     locale.library.debug                                   Any       Fail
65    RNOEffects         Open       RAM:RNOEffects_68k_FPU/RNOEffects.info                 Read      OK  
66    RNOEffects         GetVar     codeset_default                                        Global    OK  
67    RNOEffects         Open       RamDisk:RNOEffects_68k_FPU/RNOEffects                  Read      OK  
68    RNOEffects         GetVar     codeset_default                                        Global    OK  
69    RNOEffects         Lock       RamDisk:RNOEffects_68k_FPU                             Read      OK  
70    RNOEffects         GetVar     codeset_default                                        Global    OK  
71    RNOEffects         GetVar     codeset_default                                        Global    OK  
72    RNOEffects         GetVar     codeset_default                                        Global    OK  
73    RNOEffects         GetVar     codeset_default                                        Global    OK  
74    RNOEffects         GetVar     codeset_default                                        Global    OK  
75    RNOEffects         GetVar     codeset_default                                        Global    OK  
76    RNOEffects         GetVar     codeset_default                                        Global    OK  
77    RNOEffects         GetVar     codeset_default                                        Global    OK  
78    RNOEffects         Load       RamDisk:RNOEffects_68k_FPU/polybios.hwp                          OK  
79    RNOEffects         Open       RamDisk:RNOEffects_68k_FPU/polybios.hwp.info           Read      Fail
80    RNOEffects         GetVar     codeset_default                                        Global    OK  
81    RNOEffects         GetVar     codeset_default                                        Global    OK  
82    RNOEffects         GetVar     codeset_default                                        Global    OK  
83    RNOEffects         Load       RamDisk:RNOEffects_68k_FPU/muiroyale.hwp                         OK  
84    RNOEffects         Open       RamDisk:RNOEffects_68k_FPU/muiroyale.hwp.info          Read      Fail
85    RNOEffects         OpenLib    mathieeesingbas.library                                Ver 0     OK  
86    RNOEffects         OpenLib    mathieeedoubbas.library                                Ver 0     OK  
87    RNOEffects         OpenLib    mathieeedoubtrans.library                              Ver 0     OK  
88    RNOEffects         OpenLib    intuition.library                                      Ver 0     OK  
89    RNOEffects         OpenLib    graphics.library                                       Ver 0     OK  
90    RNOEffects         OpenLib    muimaster.library                                      Ver 0     OK  
91    RNOEffects         OpenLib    icon.library                                           Ver 0     OK  
92    RNOEffects         FindPort   Directory Opus                                                   Fail
93    RNOEffects         OpenLib    cybergraphics.library                                  Ver 0     OK  
94    RNOEffects         OpenLib    keymap.library                                         Ver 0     OK  
95    RNOEffects         OpenLib    layers.library                                         Ver 0     OK  
96    RNOEffects         OpenLib    utility.library                                        Ver 0     OK  
97    RNOEffects         OpenLib    locale.library                                         Ver 0     OK  
98    RNOEffects         OpenLib    codesets.library                                       Ver 0     OK  
99    RNOEffects         GetVar     codeset_default                                        Global    OK  
100   RNOEffects         GetVar     codeset_default                                        Global    OK  
101   RNOEffects         Load       RamDisk:RNOEffects_68k_FPU/iconic.hwp                            OK  
102   RNOEffects         Open       RamDisk:RNOEffects_68k_FPU/iconic.hwp.info             Read      Fail
103   RNOEffects         GetVar     codeset_default                                        Global    OK  
104   RNOEffects         GetVar     codeset_default                                        Global    OK  
105   RNOEffects         Lock       LIBS:Hollywood                                         Read      Fail
106   RNOEffects         OpenLib    mui/Numericbutton.mui                                  Ver 21    OK  
107   RNOEffects         OpenLib    mui/Title.mui                                          Ver 21    OK  
108   RNOEffects         GetVar     codeset_default                                        Global    OK  
109   RNOEffects         Open       RamDisk:RNOEffects_68k_FPU/RNOEffects                  Read      OK  
110   RNOEffects         GetVar     codeset_default                                        Global    OK  
111   RNOEffects         Lock       RamDisk:RNOEffects_68k_FPU                             Read      OK  
112   RNOEffects         Lock       RAM:RNOEffects_68k_FPU                                 Read      OK  
113   RNOEffects         GetVar     codeset_default                                        Global    OK  
114   RNOEffects         ChangeDir  RAM:RNOEffects_68k_FPU                                               
115   RNOEffects         GetVar     codeset_default                                        Global    OK  
116   RNOEffects         Open       RamDisk:RNOEffects_68k_FPU/RNOEffects                  Read      OK  
117   RNOEffects         GetVar     codeset_default                                        Global    OK  
118   RNOEffects         GetVar     codeset_default                                        Global    OK  
119   RNOEffects         GetVar     codeset_default                                        Global    OK  
120   RNOEffects         LockScreen Workbench                                                        OK  
121   RNOEffects         OpenLib    locale.library                                         Ver 0     OK  
122   RNOEffects         Lock       PROGDIR:                                               Read      OK  
123   RNOEffects         OpenLib    iffparse.library                                       Ver 37    OK  
124   RNOEffects         Open       PROGDIR:Catalogs/english_british/reqchangelib.catalog  Read      Fail
125   RNOEffects         GetVar     locale.library.debug                                   Any       Fail
126   RNOEffects         OpenLib    iffparse.library                                       Ver 37    OK  
127   RNOEffects         Open       LOCALE:Catalogs/english_british/reqchangelib.catalog   Read      Fail
128   RNOEffects         GetVar     locale.library.debug                                   Any       Fail
129   RNOEffects         FindPort   ReqAttack Warp Core                                              Fail
130   RNOEffects         ChangeDir  RAM:RNOEffects_68k_FPU

[DisasterIncarna]

Copied the iconic.hwp from the non fpu version to the fpu version and now the client launches properly, what exactly is the hwp file? does it have FPU magic inside? whatever it is that new file seems to be the issue even if present.

using the older hwp file and applying a blur of 32 on a 256x256 metal texture, the non fpu package took 20 seconds or so to complete the blur, the newer fpu version (using the older hwp file) also using the same texture and blur value of 32 took.... 1 second.

This is on FS-UAE OS3.2.1, big speed difference already, if its faster on emulation its probably faster on the real thing, sadly i have no real amiga left to test on, my Chameleon 64 FPGA is the closest thing but i believe it cant do fpu for me to test on that, so your goona need the "real" amiga users to pitch in here for more real results.

[jPV]

Argh, I included a wrong iconic.hwp in the FPU archive, please re-download the archive or copy the file from the non-FPU version. Sorry for the trouble.

[DisasterIncarna]

ah so it doesnt contain any further fpu stuff? nice, the difference already between fpu and non fpu is night and day, great update, thanks

EDIT: I have put both versions in their own subfolders, NoFPU and FPU and just use a script to run the right one for me.

CPU >NIL: CHECK FPU
If WARN
  CD NoFPU
  RUN <>NIL: RNOEffects
  QUIT
EndIf
CD FPU
RUN <>NIL: RNOEffects

Also after playing around a bit, is there a chance of getting an Undo button in the filter windows to go along with Apply/Reset/etc, beats having to keep using the hotkey for undo or fumbling for the menu.

[jPV]

Originally Posted by DisasterIncarna

ah so it doesnt contain any further fpu stuff? nice, the difference already between fpu and non fpu is night and day, great update, thanks

Yeah, there isn't an FPU version of the iconinc.hwp plugin, I did remember it incorrectly and included a WOS version of the plugin in the first archive. The polybios.hwp plugin has an FPU version, but no WOS version, so that mixed my thoughts.

I tried the FPU version on a real A1200/030/68882, and it indeed is much faster. I made some blurring test and without FPU it took 45 secs and with FPU only 7 secs.

So yeah, massive difference and I have now uploaded the FPU archive into Aminet

EDIT: I have put both versions in their own subfolders, NoFPU and FPU and just use a script to run the right one for me.

Nice solution. I thought a while if I'd do something similar and combine both archives, but ended up to distribute them separately for now.

Also after playing around a bit, is there a chance of getting an Undo button in the filter windows to go along with Apply/Reset/etc, beats having to keep using the hotkey for undo or fumbling for the menu.

It could be a bit confusing to have an Undo button in each effect/filter window, because it would undo the last operation and not the particular effect (if it wasn't the last operation). I can have a second thought with it, but currently I think that it's better to have the Undo button only in the main window (and in that menu/hotkey). Maybe it's not too much to move the mouse between the effect and main windows if you want to do it with the mouse.

[DisasterIncarna]

only asked about an undo button as i find myself constantly using the undo feature when the effect i use is too much or too little, the lack of a preview before we click apply kinda makes you do that as we cant predict what the result will be as we explore options.

[jPV]

RNOEffects 2.0 has been released. Highlights of the new version are the Pixel Editor tool and saving images in the palette mode. Many requests have also been implemented.


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The full changelog for the version 2.0:
- Added the "Pixel editor" tool with configurable pixel drawing options for left, middle, and right mouse buttons
- Added the "Color picker" tool to show colour information under the mouse pointer and to pick and store multiple colour values temporarily
- Added the "Area selector" tool which can be used to apply certain effects on a limited area of an image
- Added the "Toolbox" tool to reduce pull-down menu use
- Added support for saving images in the palette mode (1-8 bits), optionally with 16 pre-defined palettes including the MagicWB palette
- Palettes can be saved in IFF ILBM, RGB32, LoadRGB4, and LoadRGB32 formats
- Palette images can be saved as chunky data
- Chunky image data and separate palettes can be saved as a C source code
- Added an option to use an opacity map to apply an effect partially on an image (works with Blur, Contrast, Draw/Brush, Gamma, Modulate, Monochrome, and Tint effects)
- Added "Chroma key" and "Luma key" effects to make colour ranges transparent
- Batch converted images can be saved as a video
- Added MagicWB support for the icon saving
- Added information about the program state in the window title
- Added Undo button on effects' windows
- Function key shortcuts can be used to save images in several formats
- Added an option to swap the main image with the buffer image
- The Opacity map effect can use the buffer image as an opacity map
- Added an option to invert the Opacity map effect
- Added opacity map examples in the OpacityMaps directory
- Renamed the "Reduce alpha" effect to "Alter alpha" and added an option to remove the whole alpha channel from an image
- Background images can be centered in the Background effect
- Added an option to clear the current image
- Undo buffer wasn't initialised when loading an image at startup
- Fixed colour picking with scaled images
- Fixed Charcoal and Edge effects for images with transparency
- Better window resizing when loading images
- Skip arrow key operations if a command key is pressed simultaneously so as not to affect mouse pointer control via the keyboard
- Arranged effects in an ordered format in the menu - into categories
- Included JPEG2000, PCX, and TIFF plugins
- Added support for saving images in JPEG2000 and TIFF formats
- Select specific image/state to load of icon with multiple images
- Added a setting to load icon properties and use them in icon saving options
- Files can be drag'n'dropped into a batch conversion file list
- Tool windows open at startup if they were open when settings saved
- Other minor fixes

[AMIGASYSTEM]

RNOEffects also works well on the new core (C Library) of AROS One !

jPV, if you need I can create you Icons for all platforms !