Bluetooth for Amiga

macce2 · 21 August 2008, 23:02

Does it exist ?

alexh · 21 August 2008, 23:21

Nope. There is compatible hardware (USB Bluetooth dongle) and compatible hardware drivers (Poseidon bluetooth.class) but no software stack and no apps.

macce2 · 21 August 2008, 23:43

So, we'll have to write them, then :-D

alexh · 22 August 2008, 00:38

No interest whatsoever. If you want bluetooth... use a PC/Mac!

macce2 · 22 August 2008, 12:45

@alexh

Sure.. I do understand your opinion.. but still, I think we all Amiga/Efika/Pegasos/Sam/whatever users 'd need bluetooth devices and drivers... ;-)

alexh · 22 August 2008, 12:49

I find it hard to believe the users of these platforms do not have another main computer which has bluetooth.

Do you not think it is masochistic to try and use such technology on the Amiga? There are well established working alternatives to almost any bluetooth device.

If bluetooth were a technology which offered amazing benefits, access to lots of unique devices, things that would really enhance the Amiga experience then I might see it as a challenge to be overcome. However it just seems stupid to me (and obviously all other developers seeing as there is no stack) to spend months developing software that offers virtually no benefits.

Engineering: right tool for the right job.

StevenJGore · 22 August 2008, 13:01

Bluetooth is so 2003!

Seriously, though, I didn't think it was used for computers anymore. Just for mobile phones and headsets.

Steve.

AlfaRomeo · 22 August 2008, 13:12

As an Amiga user I would like to be able to connect all types of technology like mobile phones or PDA´s that normally benefits from bluetooth, so I think that if someone developes software for bluetooth (as I don´t know how to make that) its great.

alexh · 22 August 2008, 13:26

Mobile phones can be connected via USB and so can PDA's and you have to have USB to use a bluetooth dongle... doesn't make sense to me!

It's not like you've got any applications either.

Charlie · 22 August 2008, 13:39

Although I maintain that AmigaOS on good hardware (Amithlon?) is still a pleasant / useful day-to-day OS I've got to admit pretty much everything I do with it is based on 'wouldn't it be cool if...' rather than 'I need...'.

BlueTooth on AOS would be cool to have but I don't miss it - TBF the computers I have that are BlueTooth capable all have it switched off.
It's a technology for which I've never found a use:
-I don't like mobile phones, so the one I have (because work requires I have one) is so old I can't even text on it.
-I don't own a PDA - prefer my tablet PC.
-Other potentially BlueTooth stuff I have is quite happy talking faster via WiFi / USB...

So, if there was BlueTooth, I'd have it - something else to plug into my miggy.

Ok, rambling again...

AlfaRomeo · 22 August 2008, 13:51

I have a PDA with USB broken and I only can connect it via Bluetooth. My mobile phone conects via bluetooth too because the usb cable cost about €40 and have a Wireless GameKeyboard with trackball that I liked to be able to connect in my A1200. If there will be drivers and software for all of that I will be very happy

alexh · 22 August 2008, 14:54

Two very strange exceptions (which I think you made up just cos you wanted an argument!)

All phones come with USB cables as standard these days... how old is your phone?

cosmicfrog · 22 August 2008, 15:28

alex if only that was true spent ages trying to get usb lead for me mums phone as no shops had them and was to idle to surf the net i got her to us the bluetooth tilll i get said lead.

oh and i agree with every word you have said, just wish manufacturs would use stnd connectors than lockin you in eeerrrrggggghhhhhhrrrrererrre hate hate that

tonyyeb · 22 August 2008, 15:43

@Thread:

Bluetooth has been a bit of a failure IMO. Too tricky to pair up, not intuitive enough when used in Windows.

@cosmicfrog:

What model phone is it?

AlfaRomeo · 22 August 2008, 15:46

My phone is A N70 and doesn´t come with USB cable and this cable will cost me about €40 at Nokia

Galahad/FLT · 22 August 2008, 15:47

I use Bluetooth all the time, Sony Ericsson ports on the fone side are crap, sometimes can spend an age trying to jiggle the USB cable to connect properly.

I don't use USB on Amiga so it makes no odds to me, but if someone wants to add Bluetooth support to Amiga, fair play.

Initiative and enterprise shouldn't be snuffed out

cosmicfrog · 22 August 2008, 15:54

mums mobile is crap just rang her see what model it is but she not answering

anyhow artn`t we getting wirless usb soon or is that just a roumer

edit
ok its a cheap £30 nokia will find modle no. later

alexh · 22 August 2008, 16:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galahad/FLT

Initiative and enterprise shouldn't be snuffed out

No, but it should be steered towards worthy causes

Quote:

Originally Posted by cosmicfrog

anyhow aren't we getting wireless USB soon or is that just a rumour?

Wireless USB is just about dead. We were developing a wireless USB hard drive but consumers indicated that they'd rather have wires and high speed. USB3 is out in 6 months.

tonyyeb · 22 August 2008, 16:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by cosmicfrog

ok its a cheap £30 nokia will find modle no. later

There will be a USB cable for it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexh

No, but it should be steered towards worthy causes

Agreed. There are much better things the Amiga users are missing over Bluetooth support.

AlfaRomeo · 22 August 2008, 16:43

I don´t desagree in that there are better things the amiga users are missing over bluetooth but what I think is that if there is a possibility to use bluetooth in amigas software for that is wellcome.

21 August 2008, 23:02	#1
macce2 Retro maniac Join Date: May 2005 Location: Finland Age: 49 Posts: 1,219	Bluetooth for Amiga Does it exist ?

21 August 2008, 23:21	#2
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,337	Nope. There is compatible hardware (USB Bluetooth dongle) and compatible hardware drivers (Poseidon bluetooth.class) but no software stack and no apps. Last edited by alexh; 21 August 2008 at 23:27.

22 August 2008, 15:54	#17
cosmicfrog The 1 who ribbits Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: leek, Staffs, UK Age: 56 Posts: 3,557	mums mobile is crap just rang her see what model it is but she not answering anyhow artn`t we getting wirless usb soon or is that just a roumer edit ok its a cheap £30 nokia will find modle no. later Last edited by cosmicfrog; 22 August 2008 at 16:02.

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21 August 2008, 23:43	#3
macce2 Retro maniac Join Date: May 2005 Location: Finland Age: 49 Posts: 1,219	So, we'll have to write them, then :-D

22 August 2008, 00:38	#4
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,337	No interest whatsoever. If you want bluetooth... use a PC/Mac!

22 August 2008, 12:45	#5
macce2 Retro maniac Join Date: May 2005 Location: Finland Age: 49 Posts: 1,219	@alexh Sure.. I do understand your opinion.. but still, I think we all Amiga/Efika/Pegasos/Sam/whatever users 'd need bluetooth devices and drivers... ;-)

22 August 2008, 12:49	#6
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,337	I find it hard to believe the users of these platforms do not have another main computer which has bluetooth. Do you not think it is masochistic to try and use such technology on the Amiga? There are well established working alternatives to almost any bluetooth device. If bluetooth were a technology which offered amazing benefits, access to lots of unique devices, things that would really enhance the Amiga experience then I might see it as a challenge to be overcome. However it just seems stupid to me (and obviously all other developers seeing as there is no stack) to spend months developing software that offers virtually no benefits. Engineering: right tool for the right job.

22 August 2008, 13:01	#7
StevenJGore Amiga Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: North Yorkshire, UK Age: 46 Posts: 726	Bluetooth is so 2003! Seriously, though, I didn't think it was used for computers anymore. Just for mobile phones and headsets. Steve.

22 August 2008, 13:12	#8
AlfaRomeo A1200 040 SAM440EP 667 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Lisbon / Portugal Posts: 873	As an Amiga user I would like to be able to connect all types of technology like mobile phones or PDA´s that normally benefits from bluetooth, so I think that if someone developes software for bluetooth (as I don´t know how to make that) its great.

22 August 2008, 13:26	#9
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,337	Mobile phones can be connected via USB and so can PDA's and you have to have USB to use a bluetooth dongle... doesn't make sense to me! It's not like you've got any applications either.

22 August 2008, 13:39	#10
Charlie . . Mouse . . Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Nowhere Age: 55 Posts: 1,792	Although I maintain that AmigaOS on good hardware (Amithlon?) is still a pleasant / useful day-to-day OS I've got to admit pretty much everything I do with it is based on 'wouldn't it be cool if...' rather than 'I need...'. BlueTooth on AOS would be cool to have but I don't miss it - TBF the computers I have that are BlueTooth capable all have it switched off. It's a technology for which I've never found a use: -I don't like mobile phones, so the one I have (because work requires I have one) is so old I can't even text on it. -I don't own a PDA - prefer my tablet PC. -Other potentially BlueTooth stuff I have is quite happy talking faster via WiFi / USB... So, if there was BlueTooth, I'd have it - something else to plug into my miggy. Ok, rambling again...

22 August 2008, 13:51	#11
AlfaRomeo A1200 040 SAM440EP 667 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Lisbon / Portugal Posts: 873	I have a PDA with USB broken and I only can connect it via Bluetooth. My mobile phone conects via bluetooth too because the usb cable cost about €40 and have a Wireless GameKeyboard with trackball that I liked to be able to connect in my A1200. If there will be drivers and software for all of that I will be very happy

22 August 2008, 14:54	#12
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,337	Two very strange exceptions (which I think you made up just cos you wanted an argument!) All phones come with USB cables as standard these days... how old is your phone?

22 August 2008, 15:28	#13
cosmicfrog The 1 who ribbits Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: leek, Staffs, UK Age: 56 Posts: 3,557	alex if only that was true spent ages trying to get usb lead for me mums phone as no shops had them and was to idle to surf the net i got her to us the bluetooth tilll i get said lead. oh and i agree with every word you have said, just wish manufacturs would use stnd connectors than lockin you in eeerrrrggggghhhhhhrrrrererrre hate hate that

22 August 2008, 15:43	#14
tonyyeb Has the Amiga bug again Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Hull, UK Age: 43 Posts: 791	@Thread: Bluetooth has been a bit of a failure IMO. Too tricky to pair up, not intuitive enough when used in Windows. @cosmicfrog: What model phone is it?

22 August 2008, 15:46	#15
AlfaRomeo A1200 040 SAM440EP 667 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Lisbon / Portugal Posts: 873	My phone is A N70 and doesn´t come with USB cable and this cable will cost me about €40 at Nokia

22 August 2008, 15:47	#16
Galahad/FLT Going nowhere Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: United Kingdom Age: 50 Posts: 8,986	I use Bluetooth all the time, Sony Ericsson ports on the fone side are crap, sometimes can spend an age trying to jiggle the USB cable to connect properly. I don't use USB on Amiga so it makes no odds to me, but if someone wants to add Bluetooth support to Amiga, fair play. Initiative and enterprise shouldn't be snuffed out

22 August 2008, 16:43	#20
AlfaRomeo A1200 040 SAM440EP 667 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Lisbon / Portugal Posts: 873	I don´t desagree in that there are better things the amiga users are missing over bluetooth but what I think is that if there is a possibility to use bluetooth in amigas software for that is wellcome.

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