Is this a real 68060 Rev 6?

[Retro-mania]

Hi All, I have bought an 060 Rev 6 (supposedly) on ebay from a seller in the USA called AmbleIndustries17. I was wondering, is there anyone reasonably local to me in Brighton who I could send it to and who would be willing to check it out for me please? I have a nagging feeling it is a fake. Hope the pic loads ...

[eXeler0]

Originally Posted by Retro-mania

Hi All, I have bought an 060 Rev 6 (supposedly) on ebay from a seller in the USA called AmbleIndustries17. I was wondering, is there anyone reasonably local to me in Brighton who I could send it to and who would be willing to check it out for me please? I have a nagging feeling it is a fake. Hope the pic loads ...

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just my 2 cents but Font used for some of the print (eg. btm left) doesn't exactly match the real ones I own myself, also, does the logo & print look engraved or obviously just painted on?
Sounds like you don't have an accelerator for it yet?

[Retro-mania]

Originally Posted by eXeler0

just my 2 cents but Font used for some of the print (eg. btm left) doesn't exactly match the real ones I own myself, also, does the logo & print look engraved or obviously just painted on?
Sounds like you don't have an accelerator for it yet?

Hi eXeler0, I bought this for sending off to CS Labs for a Warp 1260. It was listed as brand new and there were 5 available. I went by the Mask believing it was a rev 6 but have since heard of so many stories of these being fake. This is why I am asking if anyone out there is able to test it for me and run Which Amiga? To see which version it really is.

[alexh]

It stands a chance. The date code is 2002 by 2004 the chips were branded Freescale.

As previously said the text in the lower left is usually a different colour and font because it is engraved not printed.

[Hedeon]

Maybe bigger question if this is a full 060. Last time I bought a 60 MHz one it was a fake without fpu.

[alexh]

Originally Posted by Hedeon

Maybe bigger question if this is a full 060. Last time I bought a 60 MHz one it was a fake without fpu.

Ah I didn't even spot that. I'm afraid this increases the likelihood of it being a fake.

I've never seen Motorola chips marked "MC68060RC60" that were not fakes. They DID make them. But they must have been in very small quantities.

Good luck.

[Leon Besson]

Originally Posted by alexh

Ah I didn't even spot that. I'm afraid this increases the likelihood of it being a fake.

I've never seen Motorola chips marked "MC68060RC60" that were not fakes. They DID make them. But they must have been in very small quantities.

Good luck.

Must have got lucky when I bought a MC68060RC60 recently Full FPU and MMU. Comes up as a Rev 5

Luckily I’ve a spare Blizzard 603e card with a 68060 CPU socket I test mine on.

[eXeler0]

Originally Posted by alexh

Ah I didn't even spot that. I'm afraid this increases the likelihood of it being a fake.

I've never seen Motorola chips marked "MC68060RC60" that were not fakes. They DID make them. But they must have been in very small quantities.

Good luck.

For the record, there were full 060 @60MHz even at 0.6um process back in 1996, so definitely there were real 60MHz parts at the last process 0.42 and even 0.32um. Supposedly there is also a not too uncommon 66MHz part, which is the highest official frequency of a full part, but I've never seen one IRL.
Not sure how they tested / rated CPUs back then, I have a 50MHz rev 6 that has been overclocked and running at 66MHz for the last decade -ish and never a problem, so why is it only a 50MHz part? who knows..

[grelbfarlk]

I have a rev6 MC68060RC60, which isn't really any different than a rev6 MC68060RC50 in the other Warpengine.
I have some EC 66MHz parts too which surprisingly don't really like to run at 80MHz.

[Retro-mania]

This is the ebay page - still listing them. It really all does look genuine to me, it is just the fact that the printing is all in white. I know Freescale did that, but I thought Motorola used a green dot for example, to the left of the M symbol?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/25487790202...YAAOSwX9VfQTCC

By the way, I did not pay that amount! I bought this processor a while ago but with Covid I put my plans to send it to CS Labs on hold.

[Leon Besson]

Worth looking at this Thread and following the link Bromigo!

http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=89856

[Retro-mania]

Originally Posted by Leon Besson

Worth looking at this Thread and following the link Bromigo!

http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=89856

Thanks for the link, but when I follow it, it takes me to the Exxos Forum Homepage. I have searched the hardware links but cannot find anything about fake CPUs. Thanks anyway!

[Thomas Richter]

At least for the 060, one can detect by software which version it is, and whether it is a full or restricted version. The cpu command 3.1.4 or later will identify the revision of the CPU for you.

[Retro-mania]

Originally Posted by Thomas Richter

At least for the 060, one can detect by software which version it is, and whether it is a full or restricted version. The cpu command 3.1.4 or later will identify the revision of the CPU for you.

Thank you! I do not have an accelerator board to pop it into to check though, as this was purchased to send off to CS Labs for a Warp 1260. This is why I am asking if anyone would be willing to test it for me if I send it via a courier (within the UK)?

[Leon Besson]

Originally Posted by Retro-mania

Thank you! I do not have an accelerator board to pop it into to check though, as this was purchased to send off to CS Labs for a Warp 1260. This is why I am asking if anyone would be willing to test it for me if I send it via a courier (within the UK)?

YHPM! Bromigo!

[eXeler0]

Originally Posted by Retro-mania

This is the ebay page - still listing them. It really all does look genuine to me, it is just the fact that the printing is all in white. I know Freescale did that, but I thought Motorola used a green dot for example, to the left of the M symbol?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/25487790202...YAAOSwX9VfQTCC

By the way, I did not pay that amount! I bought this processor a while ago but with Covid I put my plans to send it to CS Labs on hold.

Holy Cow!
I wouldn't support that scalper even if it was the most genuine 060 ever produced

[jbenam]

Originally Posted by eXeler0

Holy Cow!
I wouldn't support that scalper even if it was the most genuine 060 ever produced

But how are you going to have the fastest 060 around just to launch WHDLoad, then? Heck, running at 100MHz will launch those games 0.07s faster!

[Calabazam]

Oh my, he is selling them 932 USD!
Those cpu were selling 70 EUR on the second market in 2012.

You should hurry to test it on a socketed compatible board.

[aeberbach]

I would bet that it is a fake. I have never seen a real chip with all of the printing in the same color.

[grelbfarlk]

Originally Posted by Thomas Richter

At least for the 060, one can detect by software which version it is, and whether it is a full or restricted version. The cpu command 3.1.4 or later will identify the revision of the CPU for you.

WhichAmiga works also.