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Old 27 July 2019, 07:18   #61
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d4rk3lf, I mean this in the nicest possible way, but I don't think you understand depression at all. Things like nature and exercise don't help. It's not a matter of being "happy" or "not happy".

Depression is not being unhappy. Depression is a mental disorder that people are born with and, in many cases, struggle with every single day of their lives.
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Old 29 July 2019, 02:41   #62
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Agreed, and that's why I never insist to talk with person that (clam to) have that issue. Only of they want to speak with me, I can tell them my honest opinion, if they are "fraud depressive", or real depressive.
And again, should I must repeat that after saying my opinion, I always say it's my personal, objective interpretation, and I could be wrong 100%.

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To tell you the truth man, I am tired always repeating: imho, I might be wrong, you might be right.. etc... simple logic opposes it. If I say something, it should be obvious that it is always IMHO, and not the fact. If it's fact, I'l say loudly it's fact... not always repeating imho (because, if you don't repeat, people will say : Ooohh.. look at this boy... he is talking like something is fact.

Sorry for going so much off topic.



That's correct, and I was kind of afraid that someone will interpetrate my words like the above.
When I was writing my first post, my thoughts were like: "Oh, maybe someone will understand this, like I am saying that all human being needs is health, and then it will become as a happy sheep".
I didn't touched spiritual (or strictly emotional) side of human, intentionally, because I didn't want to get off topic so much, and it's a so wide subject that we can talk in the few next years.
No Reaction Buddy I just Wanted to make it Clear I only made this Thread for Good Reason I Really don't Want it to Cause Argument or Put a Downer on anyone i'm not Reacting at all no Worries here

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Old 29 July 2019, 02:54   #63
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Hey!
Relax... keep it calm... try to manage your anger.

Nobody here is fighting with anybody, we are talking very civilized. I really enjoy reading Anubis and clebin point of view, even I don't agreed with them with everything.
They were also very nice and friendly all the time.

I don't get your reaction, really.

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I agree we went to of topic a little, because we are talking about depression, and not anger management (and these are 2 different things).
Sorry for that.
I replied to the Wrong quote Buddy all is Genuinely Fine I knew the you weren't Arguing or anything just Genuinely made this thread as a Self Help Topic for People.

I Struggle with my Anger something Chronic but this is only when Pushed I still am able to see Reason in things and I Understand right from Wrong Really no need to Apologise

The point I was Putting across was Simply to keep the thread how it has been so far Nice and Friendly A lot of People Struggle and in Different ways and the Fortunate Side to all of this is that they are not alone in there Struggle, be it a Different Circumstance Entirely.

Can I just Stress that literally any Aspect of Mental Health Relates with Anger as a Emotion so Nobody is Wrong in going off Topic of Anger by talking about Depression, Bipolar, Schizophrenia, Paranoia, Stress, Anxiety. What I am trying to say is Everybody is Welcome to share that's what the thread is here for
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Old 29 July 2019, 15:15   #64
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Angers, This is an interesting topic expecially with all the trolls that are wandering in Amiga land.

This is a fact I am a coleric. I am not a bad guy that want hurt someone. But I have too much energy inside me like a fawn (despite my age) so it get out sometime when facing a stupid behaviour.
A sheep, a rabbit or cat can be upset but when it is a tiger it impress more.

So I do trekking in the wild Nature alone (without babbling trekkers). I choose a nicefull natural place that will inspire me. Then I go very early in the morning whatever the weather.
I walk much to to exhaust my body but sometime I stop to admirate the beauty that surround me (some will say I give thanks to the Creation)
When at the end of the day I have seen a a deer or wild boar then I am satisfied

IMHO the body health and strength are correlated to mind. Not only from a serotonin point of view but also from a spiritual one when your body allow you to achive a nice goal. When you climb an Alp mountain to see a rare orchids that you will enjoy. then it is not only physical exercise but also a spiritual achievement.
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Angers, This is an interesting topic expecially with all the trolls that are wandering in Amiga land.

This is a fact I am a coleric. I am not a bad guy that want hurt someone. But I have too much energy inside me like a fawn (despite my age) so it get out sometime when facing a stupid behaviour.
A sheep, a rabbit or cat can be upset but when it is a tiger it impress more.

So I do trekking in the wild Nature alone (without babbling trekkers). I choose a nicefull natural place that will inspire me. Then I go very early in the morning whatever the weather.
I walk much to to exhaust my body but sometime I stop to admirate the beauty that surround me (some will say I give thanks to the Creation)
When at the end of the day I have seen a a deer or wild boar then I am satisfied

IMHO the body health and strength are correlated to mind. Not only from a serotonin point of view but also from a spiritual one when your body allow you to achive a nice goal. When you climb an Alp mountain to see a rare orchids that you will enjoy. then it is not only physical exercise but also a spiritual achievement.
I can Completely Relate with that
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Old 29 July 2019, 17:00   #66
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Angers, This is an interesting topic expecially with all the trolls that are wandering in Amiga land.
Seeing trolls everywhere? Do you talk to them too?

That can't be healthy, IMHO.

ps. I just love your positive attitude...

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Old 30 July 2019, 10:19   #67
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"like a fawn" was a google traduction error I was meaning "comme un fauve"
This french word fauve has no equivalent in english it refers to very dangerous mammals like tigers,bears,gorillas,etc
Just wanted to say I am like a bear: peacefull but ...

@ d4rk3lf
I agree with you but I think you dont considerate what spiritualists call the Soul of a Nation.
I mean western european nations suffers from being once the rulers of this world [1] and to be now in some sort of decadence from a glorious past.
This is called saudade in Portugal or déclassement in France : the global sentiment that things going worse and that the past was better and glorious
So certainly those nations "globally" suffers from some kind of dépression
It is hard to understand from countries that are in the "upward curve"
Certainly Serbia that suffers so much the war, like France after World War 1 around 1920 [2] , is in some kind of optimistic feeling about future
Much like when a forest has burned the grass grow fast and better


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Old 30 July 2019, 13:55   #68
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Certainly Serbia that suffers so much the war, like France after World War 1 around 1920 [2] , is in some kind of optimistic feeling about future[/url]
Except First World War started due to Bosnian Serb killing Archduke Ferdinand in capital of Bosnia, Sarajevo.

All wars started in 90's were initiated from Serbia and it all ended with bombing of Serbia 20 years ago.

Sure, every war brings suffering, but comparing what happened to France in WW1 and Serbia is quite weird comparison.
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comparing what happened to France in WW1 and Serbia is quite weird comparison.
At the end all the village's cimetaries are full of graves and women cry for their husbands/brother/children

Whatever the cause all the wars finish the same way

But people that survive wants to live and want a better future: that was the point I wanted to say



My father was under the bombs during WW2 not germans bombs but ALLIES one that want to destroy the train stations.

He often told me when he found the people almost dead with one man who wanted to return these intestines in his belly he was disemboweled and would die. My father was 14 at this time.

At the same moment my mother was in the mountain in southern France: she often told me the isolated villages were the germans killed everyone and burned the village to the ground because the people MAY help the French Resistance Maquis

To the end it is the same shit :-(
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We better don't go this route on this topic or this forum. I believe one of the rules prohibits politics and religion, and this is where this train is heading into.

Sure, I give you, war is bad thing and quite often a place where you can see something that you can't even imagine you would see... or where all human evil lurks around... (still doubtful if we can call some of those 'humans', tho.

As for your father's story, I was in simillar position that my only hope I had at the time was that death would be quick. Imagine living like that for a while. Lost some relatives at that time, some are found just partially and funerals are still on going on yearly bases. (one just was last week, my parents attended one of mass funerals)

We did not move much from middle ages... imho.
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Guys, to all of you in pain to some degree, may I suggest giving a go to "guru" Deepak Chopra body of work (e.q. some quotes of his own) or check Steven Halpern's highly praised soothing music (many excerpts, even full albums can be found on YT, such as [ Show youtube player ]) ? For something a bit more straightforward, grab Ian Boddy Continuum double album, such a brilliant live recording from 1996 (short review). All the best,

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Guys, to all of you in pain to some degree, may I suggest giving a go to "guru" Deepak Chopra body of work (e.q. some quotes of his own) or check Steven Halpern's highly praised soothing music (many excerpts, even full albums can be found on YT, such as [ Show youtube player ]) ? For something a bit more straightforward, grab Ian Boddy Continuum double album, such a brilliant live recording from 1996 (short review). All the best,
You can't be serious with Deepak Chopra?!

Guy claims to solve existence of soul with Quantum Mechanics, even he is not physicist and all of them tell him he has no idea what he is talking about.

[ Show youtube player ]

He is just one of charlatans that tries to explain everything unknown to current science with god... Dr. Dawkins interviewed him for his Enemies of Reason documentary and they debated existence of god couple of times.

[ Show youtube player ]

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Guy claims to solve existence of soul with Quantum Mechanics
Hah... this is the first time I hear of this!
If anything, you have to give credit guy for good imagination (ili što bi po naški rekli: Ima dobru maštu ).

Man... Quantum Mechanics that saves souls and heal depression.
Sounds like a great idea for some Amiga game.
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You're not supposed to take theses things too literally IMHO. The way I see it : "Hey, it seems with good reason you're not 100% sure your soul can be saved by Him ? Well, Science won't let you down as its results are beyond belief admittedly, just look around you and notice what the human mind can accomplish when people gather and act rationally according to science, technique, good-will..." Those who know me well are aware I am not into creationist gibberish mind you.

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Man... Quantum Mechanics that saves souls and heal depression.
I downloaded the audio from his Higher Self CD -a NLP method of some sorts- many moons ago, that and Magical Mind & Body. In case you're interested, some of it is exposed here. Just listen up with an open mind, Deepak uses mostly common sense and rehashes eastern wisdom from the ancients, I personally don't care if he brags about curing any disease with the touch of a hand in public (should that be the case), the content of this CD and possibly a few others are free of product placement, or misleading advice e.q. when you repress your feelings, it bears consequences affecting your "inner self", and you don't necessarily appear any stronger regarding the other folks, just a more cryptic and alienated person.

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So, after years of wondering why I'm different to everyone else, I've finally been diagnosed with autism.
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So, after years of wondering why I'm different to everyone else, I've finally been diagnosed with autism.
What prompted test at that age?

Autism has wide spectrum and I know some people who are also diagnosed, but you would never knew even after talking to them for a while.

In my case it seems that everything we take my kid to check, they find I already have...
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I've seen countless "specialists" over the years that have been absolutely useless. Several months ago, I decided to do my own research, as it was the only way I was going to get anywhere.

Autism was one of the first disorders I decided to look up. And the more I read about it, the more I was sure I had it.

So, I made an appointment with a psychiatrist who specialises in Autism, and after seeing him a couple of times, he confirmed my thoughts.

I'm really annoyed that the "doctors" in this country didn't pick up my condition when I was younger. I could have had a much different life to the one I've had to suffer.
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When I get angry I try to think of what is causing my anger and then work around it.Here are 2 examples of what I mean.
You get people ringing up and saying silly things like your internet is going to get cut off or an e-mail saying that you have won the lottery.I just remind myself that these people do this as a job and it must pay or they wouldent be doing it.So ignore it,thats their job.
The other example is people that write PC virus and send them out on the net.I just think they must be really sad individuls because they get enjoyement from sending something harmful out there and they dont even know how successful they are ( unless its a famous virus like "love bug".People like that are not worth even thinking about,so,againignore it.
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I'm really annoyed that the "doctors" in this country didn't pick up my condition when I was younger. I could have had a much different life to the one I've had to suffer.
Congrats for getting the diagnosis at last, even if the system let you down in the past. I hope that it really helps.
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Congrats for getting the diagnosis at last, even if the system let you down in the past. I hope that it really helps.
It won't help him, unfortunately.
(everything I say bellow is just IMHO)
The thing is... I don't believe autism (as is), even exist, in some pure form. But we people like to put everything in classes (or folders). We like to categorize, everything we see and feel (even it's so natural, that it can't be categorized). We like to make Excel charts on something most organic as personal feelings.
For example, when I have a hangover, I don't like to see anyone, to talk to anyone, to have anything with anyone in this world. Am I having autism?
Then, there's a days, when I don't have hangover, or any physical disorder, but then again, I just don't feel like I am in the mood to talking to anyone... If I have to, I'll do it (with effort)... and that's it.

So, I have 2 options:
1) Accept it's just the mood that I am having at the moment.
2) Go crying to my psychologist about my fear having some terrible disorder, and... BAM... here's the pills.. drink.. and don't ask... it will help you dull your senses.

I don't deny that I might be utterly stupid and ignorant for these modern days problems, just can't bear the amount of problems people improvise, to feel sorry for them self.
What's next? If you feel sad, or happy from moment, to moment... what sort of disorder is that?
Let me run my Excel.
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