Please open source all the things - Page 11

strim · 03 June 2015, 20:46

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Originally Posted by Mrs Beanbag

oh god i so hope someone does that with PuzCat it would be hilarious

Put it on GitHub, where fork takes just one click! In fact the whole design of GitHub encourages forking.

Mrs Beanbag · 03 June 2015, 21:05

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Originally Posted by strim

Put it on GitHub, where fork takes just one click! In fact the whole design of GitHub encourages forking.

don't talk to me about GitHub, i've just spend the last few days migrating to a new GitLab server and making continuous integration work again.

We don't encourage forking, though. That project is not open source.

TheBilgeRat · 03 June 2015, 23:12

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Originally Posted by Mrs Beanbag

don't talk to me about GitHub, i've just spend the last few days migrating to a new GitLab server and making continuous integration work again.

We don't encourage forking, though. That project is not open source.

Plus, everyone knows that spooning leads to forking.

Be safe, kids!

TMR · 04 June 2015, 19:22

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Originally Posted by TheBilgeRat

What you are saying is that someone might take your "super awesome groundbreaking code for an ancient computer system not being manufactured anymore", FORK IT (that's the term, not "run off with it")

If i'd meant forking i would have said so... but since you've clearly made your own arguments up i'll leave you to them.

TheBilgeRat · 04 June 2015, 19:49

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Originally Posted by TMR

If i'd meant forking i would have said so... but since you've clearly made your own arguments up i'll leave you to them.

Don't pretend that the entirety of your arguement (and every anti-open sourcer in this thread) couldn't be summed up thusly: "Its my code! I spent HOURS of my life writing this code, forming it up from the primordial ooze, feeding each ASCII character a nourishing broth of electrons, coaxing out the very most from each word boundary and null pointer. How DARE some unbathed hippie reach his/her grubby little nose-pickers out and ask to see it, in the hopes that he/she could improve upon the sheer awesome perfection that is MY CODE!!!! BUGS, you say? Optimizations??!?!?! ENHANCEMENTS?!!! FUTURE PROOFING?????!!!!! NEVER! It is perfection perfectioned! ITS MINE! MY ONLY!!! MY PRECIOUSSSSSSSSS!"

copse · 04 June 2015, 23:09

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Originally Posted by TheBilgeRat

Don't pretend that the entirety of your arguement (and every anti-open sourcer in this thread) ...

There are no anti-open sourcers. So no-one is arguing that. Find me one programmer who doesn't use open source, and doesn't appreciate it, and I'd be very surprised. If someone were on the fence about open sourcing things, joking around about their selfish motives isn't going to get them over the fence in the direction you want them to go, it's more likely to reduce down their interest in working on it at all.

TheBilgeRat · 05 June 2015, 00:07

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Originally Posted by copse

joking around about their selfish motives...

Why not joke about the obvious? Its been a long road to me joking about it. I think it was you who originally responded to a rather neutral post with some starter points on getting up to speed to hold at least an informed discussion with negativity. Its not really complicated, the licenses are easy to understand and well documented. The only legitimate argument against open sourcing so far has been that "its not a cure all and no guarantee that anything of quality will happen", which is very true. The Gollum Argument (and its been made - go read the thread) is nonsense.

Amiga1992 · 05 June 2015, 01:23

commodorejohn · 05 June 2015, 20:18

I like how anybody with negative opinions about the open-source community is "uninformed."

TheBilgeRat · 05 June 2015, 22:04

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Originally Posted by commodorejohn

I like how anybody with negative opinions about the open-source community is "uninformed."

Well, its not really a "community", as such. Source available development with version control is just a method of developing and distributing software. It isn't theft. It isn't begging. Its just a development/distribution model. So, yes. People who equate it with theft and begging are uninformed, without quotes. Seriously so.

It would also help perhaps if you articulated WHICH open source project you have negative opinions about. Is it the linux kernel? Canonical? Apache? Stellarium? VLC? Wine? OpenSSH? Python? Mplayer? AROS? One of these?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...tware_packages
What about that project is negative? A developer? You don't like its language choice? Do they use SVN when every idiot knows GIT rulezzz? They didn't like your bugfix submission? Feature X isn't available?

There are rational criticisms of open-source models. Take, for example, that you may be developing very optimized algorithms in a competitive market that is profitable. Maybe you're developing some software covered by restriction classifications for the Government. Maybe you are writing some awesome warez that you'd prefer no one has access to but you. An open source model in these scenarios doesn't make sense. Old, abandoned software for out of production 30 year old computers, basic OS functionality pieces like a TCP/IP stack or USB stack? A terrible candidate for closed source vultureware.

Amiga1992 · 06 June 2015, 00:30

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Originally Posted by TheBilgeRat

Old, abandoned software for out of production 30 year old computers, basic OS functionality pieces like a TCP/IP stack or USB stack? A terrible candidate for closed source vultureware.

How is software made today "old" and "abandoned"? Because that's what this thread is about, software developments being made today (and a plea for them to be open source)

Agreed with what Commodorejohn says.

TheBilgeRat · 06 June 2015, 01:03

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Originally Posted by Akira

Because ... this thread ... about, software develop... made today (and .. plea ... them ... open source)

"Please Open Source All the Things" is pretty self explanatory. Please don't make me explain that as well.

Also, no one likes cherry picking

Amiga1992 · 06 June 2015, 03:46

TheBilgeRat · 06 June 2015, 04:35

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Originally Posted by Akira

I'm glad to see your sense of humor has returned

modrobert · 06 June 2015, 05:38

This thread still going?

On 68k binary releases are like commented source code, who cares about the license?

mld · 12 June 2015, 06:48

Maybe interested for one or the other (and sorry if it's old news)

While testing different Octamed music I stumbled upon the following: Ed and Al Mackay put their sources, gfx, music and sounds of Megaball online placed under Apache Public Licence:

http://www.snappymaria.com/megaball/

wXR · 24 June 2015, 08:33

Some updates.

#1: FMsynth source released. Not super clear about the license, unfortunately

http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=21777&page=3

#2: FBlit source released under MIT license

http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=78786

tolkien · 24 June 2015, 12:14

Sorry, you misunderstand the thread about fmsynth. It' not open source only a tool to transform dx7syx format to fmsynth.

wXR · 24 June 2015, 15:26

My bad, strikethrough added.

daxb · 24 June 2015, 18:03

The source for FMsynth V1.1 is available somewhere.

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wXR Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: New York Posts: 552	Some updates. #1: FMsynth source released. Not super clear about the license, unfortunately http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=21777&page=3 #2: FBlit source released under MIT license http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=78786 Last edited by wXR; 24 June 2015 at 15:26.

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