Back2Roots.org gone? - Page 4

19 February 2015, 21:01

Hi people ! , any news ???

best regards

Thierry

Anubis · 19 February 2015, 21:30

Patience....

Nekoniaow · 20 February 2015, 04:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anubis

Patience....

Does this mean EAB administrators are actually on the issue?
I wouldn't mind at least an acknowledgment of the problem.

Enverex · 05 March 2015, 00:56

I doubt this is going to be resolved and I can explain what likely happened (as I work for a domain registrar and hosting company):

Someone forgot to renew the domain. This can cause more than a few problems (ignoring that the site would go down) because when a domain expires, it goes into something called a "Redemption Period". This is a time where it's still registered to you, but doesn't work anymore. The major issue with this is that getting a domain back out of Redemption normally costs a lot of money (somewhere between £80 and £200 depending on the registrar) and then the renewal cost on top of that.

If you don't pay for the Redemption clearance then you have to wait out this period until the domain expires entirely and goes back on the open market. At this point, if the domain is popular, it'll immediately get snapped up by any of those nasty "domain squatters" who basically try and extort the domain back to you for at least £2000 or more (depending on how popular the domain was). If you're a business then you'd take them to court at this point or get a WIPO issued, but that's beyond what I'd expect the BTTR guys to go through as it's costly and potentially requires lawyers.

TL;DR: Domain expired, it'll cost lots of money to get it back. Chances are that won't happen so getting used to back2roots.abime.net is recommended.

Ami · 05 April 2015, 22:22

Another month passing by...

Any news?

Enverex · 05 April 2015, 22:41

I'm pretty sure there will be no news. The URL is http://back2roots.abime.net/News/ and the old domain is lost. That's pretty much it.

Korodny · 05 April 2015, 22:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Enverex

I'm pretty sure there will be no news. The URL is http://back2roots.abime.net/News/ and the old domain is lost. That's pretty much it.

The copy on back2roots.abime is not working though, as discussed earlier. Try to download anything, you'll end up with a blank page saying "broken transfer" or something like that.

In this state, the site isn't very useful.

Enverex · 05 April 2015, 23:14

Ah my mistake, I thought it was working. Yeah, bit useless right now then.

29 October 2015, 01:28

Does anyone have any further info on BTTR ?

Noticed that http://back2roots.abime.net/ used to work but now that is dead too.

09 November 2015, 03:23

Is there an ftp for downloading the bttr demos anywhere?

Washac · 09 November 2015, 09:15

Do not know if this will help but this is the best site I know for all things Amiga software, below is a link to the Demo section.

https://www.planetemu.net/roms/commodore-amiga-demos-3

spannernick · 22 May 2016, 15:05

This might help.

https://web.archive.org/web/20140209...ack2roots.org/

This is as far as it goes before the domian expired..

https://web.archive.org/web/20140213...ack2roots.org/

This is the best one I can get..

https://web.archive.org/web/20130327...ack2roots.org/

Washac · 22 May 2016, 15:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by spannernick

This might help.

https://web.archive.org/web/20140209...ack2roots.org/

Not sure what this is other than some strange archive site because lots of things I clicked on went nowhere

Enverex · 22 May 2016, 16:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by spannernick

This might help.

Unfortunately not. It's been mentioned before. Lots of the pages aren't indexed and none of the actual content will be available.

apex · 23 May 2016, 19:23

Maintainer is no more reachable.

RCK · 26 May 2016, 13:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by aeromaxx

Does anyone have any further info on BTTR ?

Noticed that http://back2roots.abime.net/ used to work but now that is dead too.

I only setup a subdomain who target the IP address of BTTR server.
If it's no more working, we can think the BTTR server is now unplugged from the internet

Washac · 26 May 2016, 13:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by RCK

I only setup a subdomain who target the IP address of BTTR server.
If it's no more working, we can think the BTTR server is now unplugged from the internet

Sad sad sad, another part of the Amiga history disappears

onkelarie · 26 May 2016, 18:37

i was wondering, is there a mirror of the site stashed somewhere? and if so, what's the size of the entire repo?

ptyerman · 27 May 2016, 05:20

I don't know of any mirror. You may be able to gain access through archive.org but will have the same problem of dead links.
One option is to contact the University in Norway where it was hosted, just may be a slight chance that it's still hosted on their servers and they would pass it on.

SunChild · 22 June 2016, 11:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by apex

Maintainer is no more reachable.

Original founder (Bobic) might be though. According to his stats he still visits here regularly...
I was delighted more than a year and a half ago to read his statement in this very thread and truly believed him and had hope that me might see BTTR back online some future day (especially including the sorely missed FTP contents!). Well, he seemed to still sincerely care about it and be motivated to bring it back somehow.

One should try and contact him about it, just to check how things are today from his perspective (I might do so myself if nobody beats me to it).

22 May 2016, 15:05	#72
spannernick Retro Nuts Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: London/UK Age: 53 Posts: 1,184	This might help. https://web.archive.org/web/20140209...ack2roots.org/ This is as far as it goes before the domian expired.. https://web.archive.org/web/20140213...ack2roots.org/ This is the best one I can get.. https://web.archive.org/web/20130327...ack2roots.org/ Last edited by spannernick; 22 May 2016 at 15:25.

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19 February 2015, 21:01	#61
Thierry Posts: n/a	Hi people ! , any news ??? best regards Thierry

19 February 2015, 21:30	#62
Anubis Retro Gamer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Underworld Age: 51 Posts: 4,058	Patience....

05 March 2015, 00:56	#64
Enverex Fantasy Man! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: UK Posts: 1,353	I doubt this is going to be resolved and I can explain what likely happened (as I work for a domain registrar and hosting company): Someone forgot to renew the domain. This can cause more than a few problems (ignoring that the site would go down) because when a domain expires, it goes into something called a "Redemption Period". This is a time where it's still registered to you, but doesn't work anymore. The major issue with this is that getting a domain back out of Redemption normally costs a lot of money (somewhere between £80 and £200 depending on the registrar) and then the renewal cost on top of that. If you don't pay for the Redemption clearance then you have to wait out this period until the domain expires entirely and goes back on the open market. At this point, if the domain is popular, it'll immediately get snapped up by any of those nasty "domain squatters" who basically try and extort the domain back to you for at least £2000 or more (depending on how popular the domain was). If you're a business then you'd take them to court at this point or get a WIPO issued, but that's beyond what I'd expect the BTTR guys to go through as it's costly and potentially requires lawyers. TL;DR: Domain expired, it'll cost lots of money to get it back. Chances are that won't happen so getting used to back2roots.abime.net is recommended.

05 April 2015, 22:22	#65
Ami Registered User Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Poland Posts: 175	Another month passing by... Any news?

05 April 2015, 22:41	#66
Enverex Fantasy Man! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: UK Posts: 1,353	I'm pretty sure there will be no news. The URL is http://back2roots.abime.net/News/ and the old domain is lost. That's pretty much it.

05 April 2015, 23:14	#68
Enverex Fantasy Man! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: UK Posts: 1,353	Ah my mistake, I thought it was working. Yeah, bit useless right now then.

29 October 2015, 01:28	#69
aeromaxx Posts: n/a	Does anyone have any further info on BTTR ? Noticed that http://back2roots.abime.net/ used to work but now that is dead too.

09 November 2015, 03:23	#70
Rafter2015 Posts: n/a	Is there an ftp for downloading the bttr demos anywhere?

09 November 2015, 09:15	#71
Washac Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: UK Southern End Posts: 704	Do not know if this will help but this is the best site I know for all things Amiga software, below is a link to the Demo section. https://www.planetemu.net/roms/commodore-amiga-demos-3

23 May 2016, 19:23	#75
apex Registered User Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Amigaplanet Posts: 645	Maintainer is no more reachable.

26 May 2016, 18:37	#78
onkelarie Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Spijkenisse / the Netherlands Age: 54 Posts: 525	i was wondering, is there a mirror of the site stashed somewhere? and if so, what's the size of the entire repo?

27 May 2016, 05:20	#79
ptyerman Registered User Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Worksop/UK Age: 59 Posts: 1,328	I don't know of any mirror. You may be able to gain access through archive.org but will have the same problem of dead links. One option is to contact the University in Norway where it was hosted, just may be a slight chance that it's still hosted on their servers and they would pass it on.

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