ERROR: Theme Park AGA (Slow Downs)

Chain · 18 May 2007, 07:35

Some timing bug must be in Theme park AGA, asi it slows down after few minutes (to unplayable speed).
Ive tried those fancy tooltypes like NOCACHE etc but i didnt solve anything

Normal (non whd) version works great if i boot machine without startup-sequence

tested on "classic" 1230/50, 32 MB, WB 3.1

Marcuz · 18 May 2007, 11:01

if i remember correctly it happened also on the real thing (A1200) but i think it was a memory problem (too little for all the stuff on screen) other than that i don't know, it's years since i've tested it either on amiga on winuae

Chain · 07 November 2007, 11:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by killergorilla

Theme Park AGA - To check

Can somebody from testers confirm it, pretty please

Retro-Nerd · 07 November 2007, 12:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chain

Can somebody from testers confirm it, pretty please

What do you mean? The slow scrolling in the park area? Is it better in pure DOS mode, thought it would be normal.

Chain · 07 November 2007, 12:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd

What do you mean? The slow scrolling in the park area? Is it better in pure DOS mode, thought it would be normal.

it slows down completely, not only scrolling, but also people and attraction moving, opening menus etc, ive tried it on A4000/060 and its almost same, so there must be some timing bug

Retro-Nerd · 07 November 2007, 12:50

I built a park with a lot of attractions. It's a slow game in generel, didn't noticed any special slowdowns, except the scrolling. Maybe i should try the DOS installed version too.

Chain · 07 November 2007, 12:56

in my case it slows down just with five attractions, but it happened after few minutes, and its always after differrent time (just dont get it)

will be my savegame helpfull? (i thing there is some bug in saving/loading game too, but dont remember what it was now)

Retro-Nerd · 07 November 2007, 13:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chain

will be my savegame helpfull? (i thing there is some bug in saving/loading game too, but dont remember what it was now)

I could try your savegame, Chain.

btw: The DOS installed game crashed my miggy with a guru after a few minutes, because the original installer copied only 62 instead of 66 data files.

Chain · 07 November 2007, 16:56

saves in the zone...

try to load save 7, let it be few minutes (tea) then go to menu, select restart and load ie. save 5. its unplayable, you mus wait just for menu pulldown about 5 seconds!!

and now, try to run it without startup sequence directly form data directory (no need to have two installs on drive. and yes, installer is crap)

im also wondering if its possible to overwrite save position, i mean re-use. im already at 7 and just two more saves left!!!

Retro-Nerd · 07 November 2007, 17:00

Will try it, Chain.

btw: You want a really crappy Amiga DOS installer, try any Sierra game!!!

Retro-Nerd · 07 November 2007, 17:23

You're right, this saves are really slow. Not unplayable slow, but it's annoying anyway. Have you told jotd about it?

Chain · 07 November 2007, 17:29

until now i thought it something with my amiga, but if you can see it too, we can report it (and my engrish really sucks).
Can you have an idea for better description than "it slows down after some time" ?

Retro-Nerd · 07 November 2007, 17:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chain

Can you have an idea for better description than "it slows down after some time" ?

Not really. Are you really sure it doesn't happen in the DOS installed version?

btw: If you wait a bit after reloading a save you gain some speed, at least on my machine.

Chain · 07 November 2007, 17:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd

Are you really sure it doesn't happen in the DOS installed version?

yes im sure, ive played it whole time without whdload and it still runs well after couple of hours. otherwise i will be unable to build that large park

Retro-Nerd · 07 November 2007, 17:57

I have no amiga programmer skills, but jotd wrote this:

Quote:

version 1.0 (2002) done by JOTD:
- initial release
- fixed to work with caches & fast memory (self modifying code removed)

It's a bit strange that the game act like this, heh?

Chain · 07 November 2007, 18:08

ive read it too
maybe there was another piece self modifying code left, dunno.

what a nice dialogue we have here, hope KG will not be mad, as i really want to solve this problem (for many years...)

Retro-Nerd · 07 November 2007, 18:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chain

ive read it too
maybe there was another piece self modifying code left, dunno.

what a nice dialogue we have here, hope KG will not be mad, as i really want to solve this problem (for many years...)

No worries, Chain. KG will probably move our discussion to this thread:

http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=31499

killergorilla · 07 November 2007, 19:35

Of course I don't mind

I'll move it some time soon

EDIT: MOVED!

Chain · 07 November 2007, 20:55

hope we will summarize it for jotd before it fall to ash again...

EDIT:
reported to JOTD, so our babbling can be moved...

Shoonay · 14 December 2007, 12:01

You've solved it Chain? Just tried it and it's as sluggish as I remember the ECS version on my A600. Get's probably even more with new stuff, so I'd call that normal.
Tried to select the "slow" game speed?
All of the people are going slower now, but much smoother. Tho the scrolling_slowdown still sucks...

18 May 2007, 07:35	#1
Chain A-Collector, repairments Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Czech Rep. Age: 50 Posts: 1,536	ERROR: Theme Park AGA (Slow Downs) Some timing bug must be in Theme park AGA, asi it slows down after few minutes (to unplayable speed). Ive tried those fancy tooltypes like NOCACHE etc but i didnt solve anything Normal (non whd) version works great if i boot machine without startup-sequence tested on "classic" 1230/50, 32 MB, WB 3.1

07 November 2007, 19:35	#18
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 42 Posts: 7,957	Of course I don't mind I'll move it some time soon EDIT: MOVED! Last edited by killergorilla; 12 December 2007 at 11:50.

07 November 2007, 20:55	#19
Chain A-Collector, repairments Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Czech Rep. Age: 50 Posts: 1,536	hope we will summarize it for jotd before it fall to ash again... EDIT: reported to JOTD, so our babbling can be moved... Last edited by Chain; 08 November 2007 at 08:57.

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18 May 2007, 11:01	#2
Marcuz Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: . Age: 48 Posts: 5,562	if i remember correctly it happened also on the real thing (A1200) but i think it was a memory problem (too little for all the stuff on screen) other than that i don't know, it's years since i've tested it either on amiga on winuae

07 November 2007, 12:50	#6
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,435	I built a park with a lot of attractions. It's a slow game in generel, didn't noticed any special slowdowns, except the scrolling. Maybe i should try the DOS installed version too.

07 November 2007, 12:56	#7
Chain A-Collector, repairments Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Czech Rep. Age: 50 Posts: 1,536	in my case it slows down just with five attractions, but it happened after few minutes, and its always after differrent time (just dont get it) will be my savegame helpfull? (i thing there is some bug in saving/loading game too, but dont remember what it was now)

07 November 2007, 16:56	#9
Chain A-Collector, repairments Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Czech Rep. Age: 50 Posts: 1,536	saves in the zone... try to load save 7, let it be few minutes (tea) then go to menu, select restart and load ie. save 5. its unplayable, you mus wait just for menu pulldown about 5 seconds!! and now, try to run it without startup sequence directly form data directory (no need to have two installs on drive. and yes, installer is crap) im also wondering if its possible to overwrite save position, i mean re-use. im already at 7 and just two more saves left!!!

07 November 2007, 17:00	#10
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,435	Will try it, Chain. btw: You want a really crappy Amiga DOS installer, try any Sierra game!!!

07 November 2007, 17:23	#11
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,435	You're right, this saves are really slow. Not unplayable slow, but it's annoying anyway. Have you told jotd about it?

07 November 2007, 17:29	#12
Chain A-Collector, repairments Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Czech Rep. Age: 50 Posts: 1,536	until now i thought it something with my amiga, but if you can see it too, we can report it (and my engrish really sucks). Can you have an idea for better description than "it slows down after some time" ?

07 November 2007, 18:08	#16
Chain A-Collector, repairments Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Czech Rep. Age: 50 Posts: 1,536	ive read it too maybe there was another piece self modifying code left, dunno. what a nice dialogue we have here, hope KG will not be mad, as i really want to solve this problem (for many years...)

14 December 2007, 12:01	#20
Shoonay Global Caturator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Porando Age: 43 Posts: 6,105	You've solved it Chain? Just tried it and it's as sluggish as I remember the ECS version on my A600. Get's probably even more with new stuff, so I'd call that normal. Tried to select the "slow" game speed? All of the people are going slower now, but much smoother. Tho the scrolling_slowdown still sucks...

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