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"NG" is not about the hardware, it is about the operating system.
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My Windows PC running WinUAE is arguably more compatible with old Amiga software than my actual A1200, because I can load a 1.x KS, set up cycle-exact emulation of a 7 MHz 68k, the OCS chipset etc. Of course WHDLoad has fixed some of those compatibility issues, but "back in the day", there were A500 games that simply wouldn't run on my 1200, but they do run on my PC in WinUAE today. Also, Commodore themselves were not planning backwards compatibility. Stuff like Hombre would have been a clean break from classic Amiga, just like the PowerPC stuff that was later proposed, as a result of 68k being a dead-end by the mid 1990's. The only option would have been some kind of "Amiga on a chip" solution for running old Amiga games/apps, but that is simply not necessary today due to the performance and accuracy of software emulation. Simply including an emulation layer with the OS just makes more sense than some kind of PCI board with a 68k CPU, Amiga chipset etc. because the end result is the same. NG "Amiga" is still interesting from a "what could have been" standpoint, even if they are not "Amigas" in our version of the timeline. |
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Indeed. For the OS developers, the current Amiga systems are nice play grounds _for them_, but for software developers, there are very few compelling reasons to use any of the current Amiga options.
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It was only that Commodore stopped funding the AAA that it never happened. 64BIT, AAA, 256MB, this was going to be the real Next Gen Amiga! http://www.bigbookofamigahardware.co...uct.aspx?id=35 |
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256MB ram!? What year do you think they had this planned for!? IF Commodore released a next gen then it would have been probably 4mb ram esp for its budget models, at a push 8mb or 16mb for desktop models
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And highly questionable if it would have been any better then one of the higher end Cirrus Logic or S3 videochips from back then....
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20 March 2018, 12:41 | #68 | |
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Escom would of had access to this tech, so why the F*** they never used it, is totally beyond me! |
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But before a consensus has to be found regarding the way to go for the OS. And it's far from won as an OS has to run on... how do we call it already ?.. Ah, yes ! "hardware"... Quote:
Personally, regarding the "classic" line, I think that Next Gen Amiga are already here (OS4, ArOS, MorphOS). But we are all so worried about what it could have been differently that we don't want to see it . A "leader" is definitively missing here ! |
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PowerPC is a heck lot more alive than 68k - it has commercial support from rather big players in the IT and telecommunication industry - Apollo Core is a big mouthed one man show. |
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If they'd have released this for (a lot) more than a grand, the Amiga would have been dead as a home hobbyist machine. |
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20 March 2018, 17:58 | #73 |
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This was going to be an A5K which would of been much more expensive, than the stand alone A1200. I think this computer if it had of made manufacture, would of been a Beast, rather than a Monster!
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Take an old lappy, install FS-UAE from here. This really is the dog's danglies - and you retain huge compatibility while adding highres graphics modes and insane CPU speeds.
It's completely replaced my real miggy hardware. |
20 March 2018, 22:48 | #77 |
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To get NG Amiga cheap, is not a question of hardware, it is question of investment of money.
To get hardware price down, would require production of 20000 units at minium, maybe less. For me amiga is also hardware, I wouldn't see any point to turn ON Apple Computer without MacOS. Amigish operating systems are hobby operating systems, no more or less. Nothing woulld change that, exept some hundered millions investment for OS, hardware, marketing etc. Dreaming some kind of comeback is delusional. |
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For me it wasn't the hardware - it was the software and the community around it.
Workbench, CLI utils, the games, OctaMED and ProTracker, Wordworth, Lightwave, Cinema4D, PPaint and DPaint. The magazines that catered to our tastes. The compilation floppies, the bad cracks, the 40k demos, Aminet. All of that would exist regardless of the hardware (had the hardware been powerful and cheap enough), hell - even most of the programming languages didn't particularly have to run on a 68k processor. So for me, it was the software so emulation is fine as are PDFs of the books and mags. But that's just the level I used it at - someone who was banging the hardware would have their nostalgia take a different direction. Quote:
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