060 Accelerator prices...

PowerPie5000 · 18 April 2010, 19:50

I was thinking about getting a decent 060 board but the prices lately have been quite high! What is the typical price for a good 060 board? (any model/brand).

I almost bought a relatively cheap 040 board once... but then decided against it as i heard the 060 boards run cooler and are more compatible with games.

Anyway can anyone please let me know the typical price for a 50mhz 060 board? Also which models fit nicely into a standard A1200 case with the trapdoor closed?

Cheers

Zetr0 · 18 April 2010, 21:06

@powerpie5000

arguably the price is going to be difficult, but the cheapest out of 060 cards will be the Apollo, and as it would be it also fits in the case with the trapdoor closed.

Expect prices today in the region of £180 - £240 (32MB max inside the stock 1200 case)

next in line would be the Viper 060, (ALSO made by ACT) this is a better revision of the card, and Will accept 64MB max and can have the trapdoor closed. price about £190+

The blizzard 060 will cost more and wont fill well with the trapdoor slot, and isn't recommended anyway =)

this card will accept 128MB ram, but its got to be the thin low-profile ram,costing yet even more..

price £220 + RAM

the Blizzard also has the SCSI option which allows for another 128MB of ram + Fast SCSI2 7mb persec asycn and 10mb persec sync

this unit will be between £80 - £120 pending on RAM configuration.

stachu100 · 18 April 2010, 21:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zetr0

@powerpie5000
next in line would be the Viper 060, (ALSO made by ACT) this is a better revision of the card, and Will accept 64MB max and can have the trapdoor closed. price about £190+

Two days ago I sold mine Viper 1260 for £275...

PowerPie5000 · 18 April 2010, 21:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by stachu100

Two days ago I sold mine Viper 1260 for £275...

£275 is a bit expensive for me but congratulations on the sale

@Zetro... Ok i think Blizz cards are out of the question then! Also will there be any issues using any of the other 060 cards with KS 3.1 roms? I have an Escom rev 1D4 motherboard so the timing fix will most likely be needed

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Cheers

Philophus · 18 April 2010, 21:40

Id4 board i have is rock stable with the timing fixes in place with my 060.

Zetr0 · 18 April 2010, 22:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by stachu100

Two days ago I sold mine Viper 1260 for £275...

Indeed my friend I was watching it, my sincere congrats on your sale. I am sure those whom get this card will be very happy with it.

Also If I am not mistaken you also put on 64MB of 50ns High Frequency compatible RAM. thus allowing the CPU and Memory to run at 60mhz.

Thats one amazingly fast card!

@thread

I will say that eBay only shows two or more people battling for an item, and only gives you a tempory instance, not a real general worth..

This problem is also compounded by location, currency fluctuations and expectations, although to be fair most 060 cards are commanding some seriuous prices... but lets take a moment here..

my Apollo 060 back in 1996 cost me £345 - included 32MB SIMM

that would be the equivilent of £600 in todays money at 4% interest

so if anything 060 cards are less than half the price they originall were...

KS3.1 wont be a problem with any 060 card, however custom 1MB roms may prove a problem for those cards that use a MMU map rom feature as it only shifts 512KB not the full 1MB - but this can be turned off on the blizzards, on the Falcon 040 it cannot.

Please note that the prices i quote are HIGHLY subjective, when looking at them remember that I will value them to what I think there worth, as I have 2 060's and 2 040's, 2 030's (thanks Steve!) subconciously I wouldn't value them financially as high... its just part of the human condition.

as I live in europe, compared to other places, Amiga is relatively abundant, again this plays on the numbers that form in my head.

at the end of the day, the value of an item is only what you place in it... thats about it really.

mully · 29 April 2010, 13:34

What would the equivalent PC spec need to be running WinUAE to match the native Imagine/Real 3D'ish rendering speed of an 060 ?

Zetr0 · 29 April 2010, 14:29

@mulligan

to achieve 060 rendering speed in imagine is relatively easy and you could use something like a 1GHz machine as this would easly achieve it.

The trick is having a fast enough processer that can emulate the custom chips as well as the CPU.

to be fair you can get quite a bit of PC kit these days for very little cash that would easly perform this task and then some more! =)

Philophus · 29 April 2010, 14:50

But why have a cheap kit car when you drive a real Ferrari

seuden · 29 April 2010, 14:53

Money?

JACK98 · 10 May 2010, 00:43

i think the 060 cards are something only a very lucky few will ever own.Can 040 be swapped and changed?.

jimmer78 · 10 May 2010, 01:52

apollo 040 cards can be upgraded to 060 quite cheaply (under £70).

JACK98 · 10 May 2010, 01:54

I don't think that its that straight forward swap or is it?.

jimmer78 · 10 May 2010, 20:47

yeah there's a guy that does it for between £50-£70 pounds in Norway. I can give you his details if you like.

alexh · 10 May 2010, 21:07

Must have a MACH131 CPLD chip or AFAIK it's no go for Apollo 1240-1260 upgrading.

18 April 2010, 19:50	#1
PowerPie5000 Miggy Ate My Hamster! Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Lancashire, UK Posts: 1,566	060 Accelerator prices... I was thinking about getting a decent 060 board but the prices lately have been quite high! What is the typical price for a good 060 board? (any model/brand). I almost bought a relatively cheap 040 board once... but then decided against it as i heard the 060 boards run cooler and are more compatible with games. Anyway can anyone please let me know the typical price for a 50mhz 060 board? Also which models fit nicely into a standard A1200 case with the trapdoor closed? Cheers

18 April 2010, 21:06	#2
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	@powerpie5000 arguably the price is going to be difficult, but the cheapest out of 060 cards will be the Apollo, and as it would be it also fits in the case with the trapdoor closed. Expect prices today in the region of £180 - £240 (32MB max inside the stock 1200 case) next in line would be the Viper 060, (ALSO made by ACT) this is a better revision of the card, and Will accept 64MB max and can have the trapdoor closed. price about £190+ The blizzard 060 will cost more and wont fill well with the trapdoor slot, and isn't recommended anyway =) this card will accept 128MB ram, but its got to be the thin low-profile ram,costing yet even more.. price £220 + RAM the Blizzard also has the SCSI option which allows for another 128MB of ram + Fast SCSI2 7mb persec asycn and 10mb persec sync this unit will be between £80 - £120 pending on RAM configuration. Last edited by Zetr0; 18 April 2010 at 21:14.

10 May 2010, 00:43	#11
JACK98 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: N/A Posts: 420	i think the 060 cards are something only a very lucky few will ever own.Can 040 be swapped and changed?. Last edited by JACK98; 05 November 2015 at 18:25.

10 May 2010, 01:54	#13
JACK98 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: N/A Posts: 420	I don't think that its that straight forward swap or is it?. Last edited by JACK98; 05 November 2015 at 18:26.

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Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	@mulligan to achieve 060 rendering speed in imagine is relatively easy and you could use something like a 1GHz machine as this would easly achieve it. The trick is having a fast enough processer that can emulate the custom chips as well as the CPU. to be fair you can get quite a bit of PC kit these days for very little cash that would easly perform this task and then some more! =)

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