Amiga.com is down! This is the end! - Page 6

Korodny · 15 February 2012, 01:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by keitha1200

Gateway was taken over by Acer so I would speculate: they are now the owners of the Amiga patents, brands etc.

There are publicly accessible databases for patents, trademarks and domains, and they show that the trademarks and the domain are indeed owned by Amiga Inc. There's absolutely no need to speculate here: Amiga Inc. (at least one of their many incarnations) does own the trademarks.

Gateway (Acer) does indeed own the patents, but they are pretty useless by now.

Quote:

Originally Posted by gilgamesh

Almost all trademarks have expired.

The important one ("Amiga") didn't, a complete (and very long) list can be found here:

http://aminet.net/package/docs/misc/Amiga-Trademarks

Quote:

It is unclear who really owns AmigaOS and Kickstart right now. ESCOM did not own them in the first place.

Another inaccurate claim. It's not clear if ESCOM owned them, they very well may have. Not that it matters anymore...

keitha1200 · 15 February 2012, 03:44

I've been out of the scene for over 10 years, so I was just wondering what had been happening.

When I left Bill and co were just getting up and running with Amiga Inc, and when I returned (couple of weeks ago) Bill and Co are still running Amiga Inc. As far as I can tell? they haven't done anything, except repeating the same old stories, as reported in the last few issues of the AF.

I spent a few hours reading up on the 3 different Amiga Inc, and court-case/copyright issues

man I'm so sorry I went down that rabbit hole!! I sort of always assumed that: bill and ted were a little on the 'walter mitty' side, with their long imaginative story telling but yet, I ask myself something rather interesting: how can someone run a company with zero products, and zero sales (except tacky mice and mouse mats) for over ten years? I reckon they should write a book about it! now that would be a best seller

Bill and Ted's bogus adventure?

On a positive note:the Natami looks pretty good

tangible and real?

PS: I was pmsl at one of the Gateway/Acer patents! The 2 button mouse

gilgamesh · 15 February 2012, 10:22

The freeamiga site suggests AInc played some role in the investors' business schemes that had nothing to do with computers or Amiga in particular.

Natami looks quite cool, but I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for it. I suppose Aros and emulation are the way to go, but that's only me.

keitha1200 · 17 February 2012, 19:28

I do hope they pull-off the Natami

As I would like to buy one

Seriously!! wot sort of Muppet, would lose the trademark of 'Workbench'!! It's like Microsoft losing 'Windows' or IBM losing the right to call their computers 'PC'.

BTW: According to a few things I've read on the net (from reliable sources) Gateway is a sub-division of Acer, and technically: Gateway is still regarded as a private company, and all legal agreements/contracts are still current.

In my humble opinion: Bill and Ted's copyrights/trademarks are based on a legal agreement with Gateway. At some point in the future: Acer might decided to enter into the 'very' profitable console market with a large Chinese partner

antonios · 16 July 2018, 14:57

Whats that now???

"Do you remember when Amiga
meant friend? We do."

Anybody knows?

Leffmann · 16 July 2018, 16:41

They left this in the page source, if anyone can make sense of it:

<!-- Rirel 33 lrnef... -->

SavageMonkey · 16 July 2018, 18:26

It's ROT13 for 'Every 33 years.'

puppypc · 16 July 2018, 18:44

Maybe they're re-opening on the 23rd, Amiga's 33rd birthday.

jediknight · 18 July 2018, 21:07

its called buy a vampire

Ferry · 19 July 2018, 01:05

Hmmmm… A-Eon and Amistore pages are almost dead, almost no link is working in either one, and now everyone is looking at amiga.com… Coincidence?

Saluditos,

Ferrán.

puppypc · 23 July 2018, 16:36

source code now says

<!-- 2B7DE69877C89AB038ADC85E65E64C82FF1AFB4F3224A9DE44BFACFAB990E333 -->

I don't really want to get into one of those augmented reality ad campaigns, or whatever they were called 10-15 years ago, but I also am curious what that decodes to. It doesn't translate into clean ASCII text.

Leffmann · 23 July 2018, 16:54

It's probably the SHA-256 hash of "Only two more weeks..." or something funny like that.

30 July 2018, 23:54

Whats that now???
Amiga the end ?

svin83 · 03 September 2018, 20:51

If this is object code, then the disassembly would be something like this:

Code:

   .data:00000000 2b 7d        .short 0x2b7d
   .data:00000002 e6 98        rorl #3,%d0
   .data:00000004 77 c8        .short 0x77c8
   .data:00000006 9a b0 38 ad  subl %a0@(ffffffffffffffad,%d3:l),%d5
   .data:0000000a c8 5e        andw %fp@+,%d4
   .data:0000000c 65 e6        bcss 0xfffffffffffffff4
   .data:0000000e 4c 82        .short 0x4c82
   .data:00000010 ff 1a        .short 0xff1a
   .data:00000012 fb 4f        .short 0xfb4f
   .data:00000014 32 24        movew %a4@-,%d1
   .data:00000016 a9 de        .short 0xa9de
   .data:00000018 44 bf        .short 0x44bf
   .data:0000001a ac fa        .short 0xacfa
   .data:0000001c b9 90        eorl %d4,%a0@
   .data:0000001e e3 33        roxlb %d1,%d3

Assuming I didn't screw up the endianness.

Leffmann · 03 September 2018, 21:23

It's not an object file. I'm guessing it's a 256-bit hash, or the output of some 256-bit block cipher, a (big) step up from ROT13.

I'm assuming it's Cloanto who have bought the domain. Who knows what's coming...

klx300r · 03 September 2018, 23:08

uh you guys do know it's been back up for a little while now

Marlon_ · 03 September 2018, 23:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by klx300r

uh you guys do know it's been back up for a little while now

The discussion is not about amiga.org, but https://amiga.com/

klx300r · 04 September 2018, 04:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marlon_

The discussion is not about amiga.org, but https://amiga.com/

ah the snowman maker site

carry on then

Marlon_ · 04 September 2018, 04:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by klx300r

ah the snowman maker site

carry on then

If only you took your time to read the thread.

hth313 · 04 September 2018, 05:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leffmann

It's not an object file. I'm guessing it's a 256-bit hash, or the output of some 256-bit block cipher, a (big) step up from ROT13.

I'm assuming it's Cloanto who have bought the domain. Who knows what's coming...

It is probably a SHA-256 which could indicate blockchain.

It says "Do you remember when Amiga meant friend? We do." There is an OS called Friend which is built for the blockchain era, as they say in their Whitepaper.

While that kind of connects, how it would really connect to the Amiga is beyond me. Why would they want to use the Amiga name for this? It makes no sense. So I am hopefully wrong.

(I do not want to put a link here, it is far away from Amiga, google manually if you are interested.)

15 February 2012, 03:44	#102
keitha1200 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Tayside Posts: 181	I've been out of the scene for over 10 years, so I was just wondering what had been happening. When I left Bill and co were just getting up and running with Amiga Inc, and when I returned (couple of weeks ago) Bill and Co are still running Amiga Inc. As far as I can tell? they haven't done anything, except repeating the same old stories, as reported in the last few issues of the AF. I spent a few hours reading up on the 3 different Amiga Inc, and court-case/copyright issues man I'm so sorry I went down that rabbit hole!! I sort of always assumed that: bill and ted were a little on the 'walter mitty' side, with their long imaginative story telling but yet, I ask myself something rather interesting: how can someone run a company with zero products, and zero sales (except tacky mice and mouse mats) for over ten years? I reckon they should write a book about it! now that would be a best seller Bill and Ted's bogus adventure? On a positive note:the Natami looks pretty good tangible and real? PS: I was pmsl at one of the Gateway/Acer patents! The 2 button mouse Last edited by keitha1200; 15 February 2012 at 04:05. Reason: typos

16 July 2018, 16:41	#106
Leffmann Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Sweden Posts: 2,269	They left this in the page source, if anyone can make sense of it: <!-- Rirel 33 lrnef... -->

23 July 2018, 16:36	#111
puppypc Registered User Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Greensboro, NC USA Age: 32 Posts: 116	source code now says <!-- 2B7DE69877C89AB038ADC85E65E64C82FF1AFB4F3224A9DE44BFACFAB990E333 --> I don't really want to get into one of those augmented reality ad campaigns, or whatever they were called 10-15 years ago, but I also am curious what that decodes to. It doesn't translate into clean ASCII text.

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15 February 2012, 10:22	#103
gilgamesh Linux snob Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Monkey Island Posts: 997	The freeamiga site suggests AInc played some role in the investors' business schemes that had nothing to do with computers or Amiga in particular. Natami looks quite cool, but I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for it. I suppose Aros and emulation are the way to go, but that's only me.

17 February 2012, 19:28	#104
keitha1200 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Tayside Posts: 181	I do hope they pull-off the Natami As I would like to buy one Seriously!! wot sort of Muppet, would lose the trademark of 'Workbench'!! It's like Microsoft losing 'Windows' or IBM losing the right to call their computers 'PC'. BTW: According to a few things I've read on the net (from reliable sources) Gateway is a sub-division of Acer, and technically: Gateway is still regarded as a private company, and all legal agreements/contracts are still current. In my humble opinion: Bill and Ted's copyrights/trademarks are based on a legal agreement with Gateway. At some point in the future: Acer might decided to enter into the 'very' profitable console market with a large Chinese partner

16 July 2018, 14:57	#105
antonios Registered User Join Date: May 2017 Location: Athens/Greece Posts: 1	Whats that now??? "Do you remember when Amiga meant friend? We do." Anybody knows?

16 July 2018, 18:26	#107
SavageMonkey Registered User Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Cheshire, UK Posts: 15	It's ROT13 for 'Every 33 years.'

16 July 2018, 18:44	#108
puppypc Registered User Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Greensboro, NC USA Age: 32 Posts: 116	Maybe they're re-opening on the 23rd, Amiga's 33rd birthday.

18 July 2018, 21:07	#109
jediknight Registered User Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: bolton Posts: 145	its called buy a vampire

19 July 2018, 01:05	#110
Ferry Registered User Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Spain Posts: 106	Hmmmm… A-Eon and Amistore pages are almost dead, almost no link is working in either one, and now everyone is looking at amiga.com… Coincidence? Saluditos, Ferrán.

23 July 2018, 16:54	#112
Leffmann Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Sweden Posts: 2,269	It's probably the SHA-256 hash of "Only two more weeks..." or something funny like that.

30 July 2018, 23:54	#113
ada1986 Posts: n/a	Whats that now??? Amiga the end ?

03 September 2018, 21:23	#115
Leffmann Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Sweden Posts: 2,269	It's not an object file. I'm guessing it's a 256-bit hash, or the output of some 256-bit block cipher, a (big) step up from ROT13. I'm assuming it's Cloanto who have bought the domain. Who knows what's coming...

03 September 2018, 23:08	#116
klx300r Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,593	uh you guys do know it's been back up for a little while now

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