Optimal Amiga OS3.x installation?

eXeler0 · 11 May 2016, 01:20

Is there such a thing?
What is the official most up to date OS3.x installation available?
Is it the retail 3.9 + Boing Balls or is there some more obscure unofficial (but "better") installation available? ClassicWB? Amikit (AKReal)?
And.. Is there someone selling a pre-installed CF card with (the latest and most up to date version of) OS3.9? (I've seen 3.1 from Cloanto)

On my A1200, I have OS3.9 but installed as an upgrade over 3.0 some time ago and there are some issues (like having difficulties to get wifi over PCMCIA working). On my A600 with the Vampire I actually only have OS3.0 for now (had the disk readily available when I installed on CF card). But Im having issues, leading me to think I should be running a more updated OS on it. (With MUI probably)

idrougge · 11 May 2016, 01:25

Officially most up-to-date is 3.9 with BB2. Stay away from the unofficial later Boingbags, and stay away from those pre-packaged Workbench installations.

To many people, a clean install of 3.1 is the optimal installation.

Your issues on the Vampire are probably due to the Vampire, not the OS.

gururise · 11 May 2016, 02:36

I've had good luck with OS 3.1 + ClassicWB. I then update the following:
+ MUI (4.0 is avail)
+ AmiTCP (if needed for internet)
+ FinalWriter 97

You may want to give NetSurf 3.5 browser a try as well, should run good on a Vampire as long as you have 64MB ram or more.

eXeler0 · 11 May 2016, 13:44

Thanx @idrougge & @gururise
Is the Cloanto 3.1 version considered as official?

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Locutus · 11 May 2016, 13:46

what does 'Official' even mean here?

Nibbler · 11 May 2016, 15:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by idrougge

Officially most up-to-date is 3.9 with BB2. Stay away from the unofficial later Boingbags, and stay away from those pre-packaged Workbench installations.

To many people, a clean install of 3.1 is the optimal installation.

Your issues on the Vampire are probably due to the Vampire, not the OS.

No problems so far with Boing Bag 3&4 on the Amiga Cd32 + 8MB Fast-Ram.

idrougge · 11 May 2016, 15:44

Cloanto is about as official as any other HDF you'll find.

Daedalus · 11 May 2016, 19:27

I'm a little wary of the Cloanto 3.X ROMs and Workbench, but the 3.0 and 3.1 releases are basically the same as the Commodore ones. On my three A1200s I'm running a fairly standard 3.9 setup with BoingBags 1 & 2, the Euro update and certain other components that also feature in BB 3 & 4. I haven't installed the full BBs 3 & 4 though...

Important components (for me) that I have on all my Amigas to add to the standard OS:
SFS
Fat95
compactflash.device
New icon.library
mmu.library
smbfs
RC-FTPd
SnoopDOS
ReqAttack
Magic Menu

And on my main A1200 I have the new layers.library too.

eXeler0 · 15 May 2016, 10:09

Is there a good (legal probably) reason for why no one is offering OS3.9 + BB1&2 pre-installed on a CF card?

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Locutus · 15 May 2016, 12:22

from what i understood the rights to OS3.9 are a bit in limbo, as usual.

eXeler0 · 15 May 2016, 14:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Locutus

from what i understood the rights to OS3.9 are a bit in limbo, as usual.

So someone should release it just to see if the lawyers can work it out. Time to call that friendly Nigerian royalty chap and propose a business opportunity ;-)

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whiteb · 28 October 2016, 06:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by eXeler0

So someone should release it just to see if the lawyers can work it out. Time to call that friendly Nigerian royalty chap and propose a business opportunity ;-)

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Cloanto ?

http://amiga-news.de/en/news/AN-2015-02-00027-EN.html

Quote:

The combination of the multiple agreements makes Cloanto the rights holder of not just any Amiga related products and media, but also the system software, documentation, Commodore-owned publications, videos and advertisements for Commodore's various product lines.

Jope · 28 October 2016, 07:43

3.5 and 3.9 are not in Cloanto's hands.

eXeler0 · 28 October 2016, 08:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jope

3.5 and 3.9 are not in Cloanto's hands.

IMO they should try and see who challenges them to sort out this mess once and for all ;-)

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Jope · 28 October 2016, 09:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by eXeler0

IMO they should try and see who challenges them to sort out this mess once and for all ;-)

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At least we'd see if haage&partner can still afford a lawyer.

eXeler0 · 28 October 2016, 10:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jope

At least we'd see if haage&partner can still afford a lawyer.

Lol ye...
They might afford a lawyer but I highly doubt they´d spend money on defending Amiga IP as they aren't making any money of it. Wouldn't make much sense tbh..
But If want them to *officially* let go and let someone who actually cares take care of it.

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FOL · 28 October 2016, 12:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by eXeler0

Lol ye...
They might afford a lawyer but I highly doubt they´d spend money on defending Amiga IP as they aren't making any money of it. Wouldn't make much sense tbh..
But If want them to *officially* let go and let someone who actually cares take care of it.

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Haage&Partner are not interested in 3.5 / 3.9 any more. They refuse to sell stock to anyone.

gulliver · 29 October 2016, 01:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by FOL

Haage&Partner are not interested in 3.5 / 3.9 any more. They refuse to sell stock to anyone.

I am curious to know where do these amiga retailers obtain new copies of 3.9 cdroms in this age, because I am sure they have all been sold out long ago

One can only speculate...

11 May 2016, 01:20	#1
eXeler0 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Sweden Age: 50 Posts: 2,953	Optimal Amiga OS3.x installation? Is there such a thing? What is the official most up to date OS3.x installation available? Is it the retail 3.9 + Boing Balls or is there some more obscure unofficial (but "better") installation available? ClassicWB? Amikit (AKReal)? And.. Is there someone selling a pre-installed CF card with (the latest and most up to date version of) OS3.9? (I've seen 3.1 from Cloanto) On my A1200, I have OS3.9 but installed as an upgrade over 3.0 some time ago and there are some issues (like having difficulties to get wifi over PCMCIA working). On my A600 with the Vampire I actually only have OS3.0 for now (had the disk readily available when I installed on CF card). But Im having issues, leading me to think I should be running a more updated OS on it. (With MUI probably)

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11 May 2016, 01:25	#2
idrougge Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Stockholm Posts: 4,337	Officially most up-to-date is 3.9 with BB2. Stay away from the unofficial later Boingbags, and stay away from those pre-packaged Workbench installations. To many people, a clean install of 3.1 is the optimal installation. Your issues on the Vampire are probably due to the Vampire, not the OS.

11 May 2016, 02:36	#3
gururise Registered User Join Date: May 2016 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 67	I've had good luck with OS 3.1 + ClassicWB. I then update the following: + MUI (4.0 is avail) + AmiTCP (if needed for internet) + FinalWriter 97 You may want to give NetSurf 3.5 browser a try as well, should run good on a Vampire as long as you have 64MB ram or more.

11 May 2016, 13:44	#4
eXeler0 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Sweden Age: 50 Posts: 2,953	Thanx @idrougge & @gururise Is the Cloanto 3.1 version considered as official? Skickat från min HTC One via Tapatalk

11 May 2016, 13:46	#5
Locutus Registered User Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Finland Posts: 1,178	what does 'Official' even mean here?

11 May 2016, 15:44	#7
idrougge Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Stockholm Posts: 4,337	Cloanto is about as official as any other HDF you'll find.

11 May 2016, 19:27	#8
Daedalus Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Dublin, then Glasgow Posts: 6,346	I'm a little wary of the Cloanto 3.X ROMs and Workbench, but the 3.0 and 3.1 releases are basically the same as the Commodore ones. On my three A1200s I'm running a fairly standard 3.9 setup with BoingBags 1 & 2, the Euro update and certain other components that also feature in BB 3 & 4. I haven't installed the full BBs 3 & 4 though... Important components (for me) that I have on all my Amigas to add to the standard OS: SFS Fat95 compactflash.device New icon.library mmu.library smbfs RC-FTPd SnoopDOS ReqAttack Magic Menu And on my main A1200 I have the new layers.library too.

15 May 2016, 10:09	#9
eXeler0 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Sweden Age: 50 Posts: 2,953	Is there a good (legal probably) reason for why no one is offering OS3.9 + BB1&2 pre-installed on a CF card? Skickat från min HTC One via Tapatalk

15 May 2016, 12:22	#10
Locutus Registered User Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Finland Posts: 1,178	from what i understood the rights to OS3.9 are a bit in limbo, as usual.

28 October 2016, 07:43	#13
Jope - Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Helsinki / Finland Age: 43 Posts: 9,863	3.5 and 3.9 are not in Cloanto's hands.

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