Gmail on A500+ WB3.1? - Page 2

Starglider 2 · 22 February 2016, 17:41

Thanks. So if I got a domain with 1&1 you're saying there's no SMTP authentication and it would work on the A500+?

Unfortunately my ISP do not offer the same.

nogginthenog · 23 February 2016, 21:56

Hi Starglider 2,

The company I work for moved from 1&1 email to Outlook365 last year.

We still have a domain registered with 1&1. Our product (Hotel Software) can send emails so I use it for testing.
Actually I am working on this right now for spamming sending promotional material.

I will give it a test tomorrow to see if unauthenticated SMTP still works.

Starglider 2 · 23 February 2016, 22:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by nogginthenog

Hi Starglider 2,

The company I work for moved from 1&1 email to Outlook365 last year.

We still have a domain registered with 1&1. Our product (Hotel Software) can send emails so I use it for testing.
Actually I am working on this right now for spamming sending promotional material.

I will give it a test tomorrow to see if unauthenticated SMTP still works.

Great, please do!

Starglider 2 · 25 February 2016, 01:39

Can anyone point me to a download of YAM 1.3.3 or 1.3.5 (for 68000) please? Can't find it on the official YAM site or on Aminet.

Don_Adan · 25 February 2016, 01:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Starglider 2

Can anyone point me to a download of YAM 1.3.3 or 1.3.5 (for 68000) please? Can't find it on the official YAM site or on Aminet.

Link available from post 5.

Starglider 2 · 25 February 2016, 01:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Don_Adan

Link available from post 5.

Apologies!

nogginthenog · 27 February 2016, 12:23

Sorry for the delay. 1&1's email servers does appear to not need SSL (I tested it with a small dot net app).

I'm building a Amiga at the moment. When it's up and running I'll check if YAM works. Currently my 160Gb harddrive is being recognised as 8G...

Starglider 2 · 27 February 2016, 17:07

I wonder how 1&1 avoid spammers.

Starglider 2 · 28 February 2016, 22:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by nogginthenog

Sorry for the delay. 1&1's email servers does appear to not need SSL (I tested it with a small dot net app).

I'm building a Amiga at the moment. When it's up and running I'll check if YAM works. Currently my 160Gb harddrive is being recognised as 8G...

Wait, with 1&1 you just put a password with no AUTH, correct? I think the only issue with A500+ mail apps is that they CAN do passwords but just can't do AUTH. So it should work, if I'm correct?

Starglider 2 · 29 February 2016, 09:02

My assistant called 1&1:

Quote:

they do offer domains where you can choose to either disable or enable SMTP authentication

TenLeftFingers · 02 March 2016, 00:42

Please let us know how it goes. If it works for you with YAM or SimpleMail I'd be tempted to do the same thing and use the 1&1 account as a forwarding account for my main email.

Starglider 2 · 02 March 2016, 00:49

I'll let you know!

Starglider 2 · 02 March 2016, 09:30

I'm waiting for my Plipbox before I can actually test SMTP on the Amiga itself, but I did go ahead and buy a domain from 1and1.com. Unfortunately so far I can't find any option to turn off TLS...

nogginthenog · 02 March 2016, 10:44

I just tried YAM with 1and1 and it successfully receives and sends emails.
My SMTP settings are simple:

Server: smtp.1and1.com
Port: 25
Connection Security: No Security
Authentification: Auto
User name: ...
Password: ...

Starglider 2 · 02 March 2016, 17:58

That's great! Did you have to disable anything in the 1&1 control panel or do you simply do nothing different and it just works?

This is on an A500+ or similar as per this thread, right?

nogginthenog · 02 March 2016, 21:50

I tested with WinUAE.

I work in the hotel industry and a web booking system wants to sends us bookings via email (which is very strange...). I just created a regular account. We have a business account but I don't think that matters.

I used this account for testing.

I've just got my backup Amiga 4000 online. I'm using a Raspberry PI via the serial port to connect to the internet (I plan to write a guide for this BTW). It's working great (but slow!)

I'll test this on a real Amiga and let you know.

nogginthenog · 02 March 2016, 21:59

That worked fine. I don't have AmiSSL installed on this box and YAM gives a warning (I guess I do in WinUAE).

Starglider 2 · 02 March 2016, 22:24

Great!

1. What model was your "real Amiga"?
2. Was the UAE setup as an A500+?

Starglider 2 · 04 March 2016, 04:57

Today, according to the 1&1 agent, changing the outgoing server port number to 25 and unmarking the "outgoing server requires authentication" option on your mail client will allow emails to be sent. This tallies with what you experienced above.

nogginthenog · 04 March 2016, 20:03

The "Real Amiga" I tested YAM with is an A4000/030.
Connected to a blurry A520 modulator. I'll blame you if I lose my eyesight :-)

It really should not matter though.

02 March 2016, 22:24	#38
Starglider 2 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: California Posts: 1,146	Great! 1. What model was your "real Amiga"? 2. Was the UAE setup as an A500+? Last edited by Starglider 2; 04 March 2016 at 07:00.

04 March 2016, 04:57	#39
Starglider 2 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: California Posts: 1,146	Today, according to the 1&1 agent, changing the outgoing server port number to 25 and unmarking the "outgoing server requires authentication" option on your mail client will allow emails to be sent. This tallies with what you experienced above. Last edited by Starglider 2; 04 March 2016 at 07:00.

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22 February 2016, 17:41	#21
Starglider 2 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: California Posts: 1,146	Thanks. So if I got a domain with 1&1 you're saying there's no SMTP authentication and it would work on the A500+? Unfortunately my ISP do not offer the same.

23 February 2016, 21:56	#22
nogginthenog Amigan Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: London Posts: 1,309	Hi Starglider 2, The company I work for moved from 1&1 email to Outlook365 last year. We still have a domain registered with 1&1. Our product (Hotel Software) can send emails so I use it for testing. Actually I am working on this right now for spamming sending promotional material. I will give it a test tomorrow to see if unauthenticated SMTP still works.

25 February 2016, 01:39	#24
Starglider 2 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: California Posts: 1,146	Can anyone point me to a download of YAM 1.3.3 or 1.3.5 (for 68000) please? Can't find it on the official YAM site or on Aminet.

27 February 2016, 12:23	#27
nogginthenog Amigan Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: London Posts: 1,309	Sorry for the delay. 1&1's email servers does appear to not need SSL (I tested it with a small dot net app). I'm building a Amiga at the moment. When it's up and running I'll check if YAM works. Currently my 160Gb harddrive is being recognised as 8G...

27 February 2016, 17:07	#28
Starglider 2 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: California Posts: 1,146	I wonder how 1&1 avoid spammers.

02 March 2016, 00:42	#31
TenLeftFingers Registered User Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Ireland Posts: 800	Please let us know how it goes. If it works for you with YAM or SimpleMail I'd be tempted to do the same thing and use the 1&1 account as a forwarding account for my main email.

02 March 2016, 00:49	#32
Starglider 2 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: California Posts: 1,146	I'll let you know!

02 March 2016, 09:30	#33
Starglider 2 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: California Posts: 1,146	I'm waiting for my Plipbox before I can actually test SMTP on the Amiga itself, but I did go ahead and buy a domain from 1and1.com. Unfortunately so far I can't find any option to turn off TLS...

02 March 2016, 10:44	#34
nogginthenog Amigan Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: London Posts: 1,309	I just tried YAM with 1and1 and it successfully receives and sends emails. My SMTP settings are simple: Server: smtp.1and1.com Port: 25 Connection Security: No Security Authentification: Auto User name: ... Password: ...

02 March 2016, 17:58	#35
Starglider 2 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: California Posts: 1,146	That's great! Did you have to disable anything in the 1&1 control panel or do you simply do nothing different and it just works? This is on an A500+ or similar as per this thread, right?

02 March 2016, 21:50	#36
nogginthenog Amigan Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: London Posts: 1,309	I tested with WinUAE. I work in the hotel industry and a web booking system wants to sends us bookings via email (which is very strange...). I just created a regular account. We have a business account but I don't think that matters. I used this account for testing. I've just got my backup Amiga 4000 online. I'm using a Raspberry PI via the serial port to connect to the internet (I plan to write a guide for this BTW). It's working great (but slow!) I'll test this on a real Amiga and let you know.

02 March 2016, 21:59	#37
nogginthenog Amigan Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: London Posts: 1,309	That worked fine. I don't have AmiSSL installed on this box and YAM gives a warning (I guess I do in WinUAE).

04 March 2016, 20:03	#40
nogginthenog Amigan Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: London Posts: 1,309	The "Real Amiga" I tested YAM with is an A4000/030. Connected to a blurry A520 modulator. I'll blame you if I lose my eyesight :-) It really should not matter though.

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