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Old 09 August 2011, 22:07   #1
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Unhappy CSPPC and PicassoIV problem

Hey guys I stumbled across an issue that I can't solve (if it can be anywayz).
I recently got an PicassoIV (Revision 1.2) to put under my A4000.
My speccs are CSPPC/060, 128MB RAM , Buster 11, running a test environment of stock OS3.9+BB2 on a 3.5 IDE (on Primary Master) and DVD-RW (on Secondary Master). Here's the history log what I've encountered so far.

- PIV inserted on Video Slot normally.
- Power LED flashes quickly 6 times then reboots. That repeats forever!
I made a proper bath on the card in case there was a problem with the connector or anything else with no difference.
Since my CSPPC had latest revision 44.71 (private OpenPCI version) I thought of downgrading the flash to latest official 44.67. Still no joy

- PIV removed
Normal boot occurs like nothing happened.

- Replaced CSPPC with the stock A3630 accelerator
- Inserted PIV again
Normal boot occurs now!!! I can even enter the PIV menu holding down the SHIFT key. Only side-effect is that I can't output the signal on my Dell 17" monitor as it's normal PAL 50Hz that my monitor can't output. (I guess this can be changed later from PicassoTNG configuration right?)
P4Info outputed info just fine so I thought of flashing the latest PIV update (7.5).

- Replaced A3630 with my CSPPC
Same thing happens (Power LED flashes 6 times then reboots constantly)

As I don't have a previous experience with an PicassoIV I don't know if I'm skipping something, but I searched on the forums for similar incidents and haven't found something related to my own.

Any help will be really appreciated

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Old 09 August 2011, 22:58   #2
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Btw... (thanks to Fitzsteve) used the JP2 to force Z2 instead and IT WORKS!
Damn! I saw from P4Info that Bridge is $1 while FlickerFixer is $4.
Is there a possibility I need something newer (I remember something about an upgraded bridge on 1.2N revision board but can't recall exactly!
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Old 09 August 2011, 23:28   #3
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You can send your MACH and PROM chips to be reprogrammed to BRIDGE $4 and FliFi $7 to Tobias Seiler aka MASTATABS for a small fee. (Assuming he is still offering this service)

http://www.sophisticated-development.de

Or you can try a REV 9 buster?

Here is/was the best Picasso IV information webpage :

http://web.archive.org/web/200410152...com/picassoiv/

The two Xilinx/Atmel PROM files for Bridge $4 are available on that archive and in theory I could reprogram them at work. So could COSMOS I believe.

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Old 10 August 2011, 17:44   #4
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I did have some problems myself where the computer was constantly rebooting just like yours with Picasso IV in an A4000D but that was also with a CVPPC on top of the CSPPC. I had to force it into Zorro 2 mode to get it to work. My Picasso Card however is a newer 1.2N.

http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=237760&postcount=39
http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=237996&postcount=42

As detailed in that thread, it somehow worked in Zorro 3 mode in my other A4000D with the exact same setup... I really needed to retry it again to confirm the strange results and see any differences between the 2 A4000Ds, but I now use an A4000T.

So maybe another possibility for you to try is in another A4000D. The only difference I was aware in mine was that one was a Buster 9 (didn't work), other was a Buster 11 (worked).

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Old 12 October 2012, 23:11   #5
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Was this problem ever resolved?
I have the exact same issue.
Picasso IV, all chips updated, tested on two rev b motherboards that have both been to Hikey for repars and checkup. Both have buster 11. Tested with one CSMKIII and one CSPPC. Get the exact same problem no matter what. Continuous reboots unless i force zorro 2 mode. The Picasso works fine in zorro 3 mode with my Apollo 4040.
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Old 13 October 2012, 15:40   #6
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Anoteher item that I came across is to check if you have free Zorro 3 address space. To do this, you can force your picassoiv card to zorro 2 mode when you have a Cyberstorm inserted, and then check the output of the showconfig command.

See here for an explanation of the output and what determines the free address space:
http://forum.hyperion-entertainment....php?f=15&t=172

Another thing to check is whether you have your motherboard CPU jumpers (Clock source, maybe one other) set correctly for the Cyberstorms as it works for you with the Apollo 4040.
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Yes it has been resolved with an upgrade of Firmware and FliFi by Mastatabs.

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Old 15 October 2012, 07:11   #8
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Thats so wierd.
I got the updated chips from mastatabs aswell, but it didnt resolve my issue.
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Old 16 October 2012, 22:36   #9
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I barely believe this.
Thanks to a situation a friend had with one a3630 he bought from me where the solution was setting the j100 jumper correctly for the computer to boot, i had a look at my own settings.
Turns out i had the jumpers in int/int.
CSMK3 and CSPPC apparently wants ext/ext.
I had _no_ other symptoms than the picasso iv that refused to work in zorro 3 however.
After setting the jumpers correctly the card works fine in z3. =)
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Hehe nice one man.
I wouldn't ask that tbh, cause it's too typical and even the manual of CSPPC tells to put both jumpers to EXT
Iirc you only need INT/INT only for 4630 accelerators.
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Hehe nice one man.
Iirc you only need INT/INT only for 4630 accelerators.
CS Mk2 AFAIR?
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Old 17 October 2012, 12:57   #12
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Not sure mate. Better read the manual of your accelerator to be sure
I only had 4630 and CSPPC so for those I can speak of
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CS Mk2 AFAIR?
Yes CSMkII also needs 'INT' I think the WarpEngine 4040 too! (But I'd need to double check)

Most other Turbo boards are 'EXT' but as mfilos says better to check the manual to be sure
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I barely believe this.
Thanks to a situation a friend had with one a3630 he bought from me where the solution was setting the j100 jumper correctly for the computer to boot, i had a look at my own settings.
Turns out i had the jumpers in int/int.
CSMK3 and CSPPC apparently wants ext/ext.
I had _no_ other symptoms than the picasso iv that refused to work in zorro 3 however.
After setting the jumpers correctly the card works fine in z3. =)
Someone I know had the same incorrect jumper settings and there were no symptoms apart from the Mediator board not working. So maybe for some Zorro3 cards you can see obvious problems with this jumper set incorrectly.
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