DarkSeed Floppy NTSC Fix Please - Page 3

Nibbler · 19 May 2017, 12:50

Still the same problem.
Object position and Mouse position dosen´t match

Man, this is tuff. Dont know when this will be 100% fixed, i mean ross did what he could. Maybe one day. Until then. Love you guy´s youre the best.

Retro-Nerd · 19 May 2017, 12:56

Huh? Are you sure to copied the right file? I've tested it for the floppy and CD32 versions and everthing is fine now.

ross · 19 May 2017, 13:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nibbler

Dawm, still the same problem.
Object position and Mouse position dosen´t match

Man, this is a tuff. Dont know when this will be 100% fixed, i mean ross did what he could. Maybe one day. Until then. Love you guy´s youre the best.

Maybe you simply used the old version? (check CRC).

I know, i'm lazy, i've not even changed files names

Bye!
ross

Nibbler · 19 May 2017, 13:30

Hmmm, i have downloaded the files on the very top in the zone. Is this not right ? Anyway, i come back later, work calls . (plz the german floppy version plz ) . Man, if i come back from work and darkseed is fixed then i am SUPER Happy

bye folk, respect

Retro-Nerd · 19 May 2017, 14:01

You mixed the files. Everthing is fine now.

Nibbler · 19 May 2017, 19:47

Hmm Dosent work for me. I use Winuae to show you.
Pal or Ntsc, the Item/mouse position dosent match.

I downloaded both files on top off the file list in the zone (picture below). odd

Retro-Nerd · 19 May 2017, 19:50

Mmh, strange. I've tested it in emulation and real hardware. The mouse pointer position ist fixed for sure as you can see in the pics above. Tried the WHDLoad floppy and CD32 versions.

Maybe delete your browser cache and redownload the files again.

Nibbler · 19 May 2017, 20:01

ok, i try

Nibbler · 19 May 2017, 20:14

Wow, that took some time ... Still the same problem.

what the.. ??

Retro-Nerd · 19 May 2017, 20:16

The attached file is working. If not then something is wrong on your side. And make sure the NTSC tooltype is really set in the game icon.

retrogamer · 19 May 2017, 21:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd

The attached file is working. If not then something is wrong on your side. And make sure the NTSC tooltype is really set in the game icon.

How do I set the tooltype?

Retro-Nerd · 19 May 2017, 21:13

Mark the icon then mouse righclick -> Icons-> Informations. Write NTSC and save it. This need of course the NTSC monitor file in DEVS/Monitors of your WB.

ross · 19 May 2017, 21:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nibbler

Wow, that took some time ... Still the same problem.

what the.. ??

Interesting...

Can you post all the relevant info?
(WinUAE version, config file, game version (you can also upload your game dir in The Zone)

The CD32 version is working? (Boot the ISO from WinUAE->quickstart->CD32)
The patch code is the same only the deploy is different.

ross

ross · 19 May 2017, 22:06

mmh, strange thing
Even with no NTSC tooltype the game work (as it should)
But at exit the screen mode is not repristined.

There is more than a single WHDLoad version?
Maybe some version overwrite my patch!
And maybe we need a patched whdload version.

Retro-Nerd · 19 May 2017, 22:09

Latest WHDLoad version is v1.03 disk and v1.0 for CD32. And it's the only one shared on the usual WHDLoad game sites/EAB FTP. It works fine without NTSC tooltype. But as you said, the screen isn't refreshed properly then after pressing the quit key.

Booting the plain CD32 CD image in WinUAE works fine too. No problems here.

ross · 19 May 2017, 22:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd

Latest WHDLoad version is v1.03 disk and v1.0 for CD32. And it's the only one shared on the usual WHDLoad game sites/EAB FTP. It works fine without NTSC tooltype. But as you said, the screen isn't refreshed properly then after pressing the quit key.

Booting the plain CD32 CD image in WinUAE works fine too. No problems here.

Ok, for now you need to stay with NTSC tooltype.
The patch is made to work also for the floppy version so NTSC is forced (like bootable CD32).
WHDLoad slave is simply not aware of an NTSC version

.
Not a problem at all.

Only Nibbler problem is inexplicable

without more details.

ross

StingRay · 20 May 2017, 00:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by ross

Only Nibbler problem is inexplicable

without more details.

I don't know how you patched the game but maybe this is a CPU/config related problem, i.e. games uses different code depending on the CPU/RAM etc. and you need to patch several parts instead of just one.

ross · 20 May 2017, 00:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by StingRay

I don't know how you patched the game but maybe this is a CPU/config related problem, i.e. games uses different code depending on the CPU/RAM etc. and you need to patch several parts instead of just one.

Hi StingRay, so the request for Nibbler configuration and files

I've tested with vanilla machine and various WHDLoad combo (WinUAE bare 68k to 030 and various ram specs).

It looks like the copper list is in place but the sprite 'shift' code is not executed (somehow the bsr to patch is overwritten).

Waiting for Nibbler

Bye,
ross

Nibbler · 20 May 2017, 11:29

Sorry i kept you waiting ( was a busy day, yesterday ).
Anyway. I found the problem.

Its just the "Busy watch" that is in the wrong place.
The Rest is spot on.

Yipppieeeee , Finally.

The German version would be SUPER sweet. plz.

thank you so much for all you´re effort, time and support ross

Nibbler · 20 May 2017, 12:15

Is it possible to fix the "busy watch position" for the Community ? hmmm.
So close to 100% fixed...

19 May 2017, 12:50	#41
Nibbler namm namm AMIGA Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Austria Age: 44 Posts: 734	Still the same problem. Object position and Mouse position dosen´t match Man, this is tuff. Dont know when this will be 100% fixed, i mean ross did what he could. Maybe one day. Until then. Love you guy´s youre the best. Last edited by Nibbler; 19 May 2017 at 19:37. Reason: typos - like usual ;)

19 May 2017, 19:47	#46
Nibbler namm namm AMIGA Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Austria Age: 44 Posts: 734	Hmm Dosent work for me. I use Winuae to show you. Pal or Ntsc, the Item/mouse position dosent match. I downloaded both files on top off the file list in the zone (picture below). odd Attached Thumbnails Last edited by Nibbler; 19 May 2017 at 19:54. Reason: typos, what else ;)

19 May 2017, 22:09	#55
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,435	Latest WHDLoad version is v1.03 disk and v1.0 for CD32. And it's the only one shared on the usual WHDLoad game sites/EAB FTP. It works fine without NTSC tooltype. But as you said, the screen isn't refreshed properly then after pressing the quit key. Booting the plain CD32 CD image in WinUAE works fine too. No problems here. Last edited by Retro-Nerd; 19 May 2017 at 22:51.

20 May 2017, 11:29	#59
Nibbler namm namm AMIGA Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Austria Age: 44 Posts: 734	Sorry i kept you waiting ( was a busy day, yesterday ). Anyway. I found the problem. Its just the "Busy watch" that is in the wrong place. The Rest is spot on. Yipppieeeee , Finally. The German version would be SUPER sweet. plz. thank you so much for all you´re effort, time and support ross Last edited by Nibbler; 20 May 2017 at 14:48.

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19 May 2017, 12:56	#42
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,435	Huh? Are you sure to copied the right file? I've tested it for the floppy and CD32 versions and everthing is fine now.

19 May 2017, 13:30	#44
Nibbler namm namm AMIGA Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Austria Age: 44 Posts: 734	Hmmm, i have downloaded the files on the very top in the zone. Is this not right ? Anyway, i come back later, work calls . (plz the german floppy version plz ) . Man, if i come back from work and darkseed is fixed then i am SUPER Happy bye folk, respect

19 May 2017, 14:01	#45
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,435	You mixed the files. Everthing is fine now.

19 May 2017, 19:50	#47
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,435	Mmh, strange. I've tested it in emulation and real hardware. The mouse pointer position ist fixed for sure as you can see in the pics above. Tried the WHDLoad floppy and CD32 versions. Maybe delete your browser cache and redownload the files again.

19 May 2017, 20:01	#48
Nibbler namm namm AMIGA Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Austria Age: 44 Posts: 734	ok, i try

19 May 2017, 20:14	#49
Nibbler namm namm AMIGA Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Austria Age: 44 Posts: 734	Wow, that took some time ... Still the same problem. what the.. ??

19 May 2017, 21:13	#52
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,435	Mark the icon then mouse righclick -> Icons-> Informations. Write NTSC and save it. This need of course the NTSC monitor file in DEVS/Monitors of your WB.

19 May 2017, 22:06	#54
ross Defendit numerus Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Crossing the Rubicon Age: 53 Posts: 4,468	mmh, strange thing Even with no NTSC tooltype the game work (as it should) But at exit the screen mode is not repristined. There is more than a single WHDLoad version? Maybe some version overwrite my patch! And maybe we need a patched whdload version.

20 May 2017, 12:15	#60
Nibbler namm namm AMIGA Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Austria Age: 44 Posts: 734	Is it possible to fix the "busy watch position" for the Community ? hmmm. So close to 100% fixed...

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