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AmigaAnywhere soon to become AmigaEverywhere
The last few announcement from Amiga Games Inc., along with Patrick Roberts' interview on Retro Gamer Magazine Issue 119 (https://www.imagineshop.co.uk/magazi...issue-119.html) prompted me to investigate a little bit.
Nothing new under the sun here, just wanted to share some bits and ask some questions, if anyone is interested (me left the Amiga scene during the AmigaDE/AmigaAnywhere days). Ok, so, Patrick Roberts is President and Chief Operating Officer of Amiga Games Inc (http://www.amigagamesinc.com). He is the same Patrick Roberts (https://angel.co/patrick-roberts) that in 2000 designed the AMIE Console concepts (http://www.amigahistory.co.uk/amieconcept.html) He is the same Patrick Roberts that in 2001 worked at Edivision LLC on some AmigaAnywhere contents (http://www.amiga-news.de/de/news/AN-...00314-DE.html) Then, going to assume that he's/he'll work closely with Darren Debono, owner at Elysian Labs (http://elysianlabs.com/products/). Darren Delbono worked as a software developer for 4 years at Amiga Inc., he's now an Amiga Inc. consultant and responsible for the recent AmigaAnywhere-based ports to the BlackBerry devices (http://uk.linkedin.com/in/darrendebono). And speaking of AmigaAnywhere, noticed the similarity between the AmigaDE user interface (http://www.amigahistory.co.uk/amigade1.jpg) and the AmigaOS5 concept design by Matt Chaput (http://www.amigahistory.co.uk/concept/mockup.jpg) Is it correct to say that Elate was the OS and AmgaAnywhere (called AmigaDE at the time) was just the software development environment? A clarification from former Amiga Inc. developer Bolton Peck: Quote:
From the images linked above you can see the "AmigaOS5-like" gadgets inside the main "intent/Linux graphics" window. Main window gadget is more similar to the Elate screenshot. It reminds me - in a way - of AROS Hosted. Two funny coincidences: - In 2.000 AmigaDE was called AMIE (like Patrick Roberts' Console concept: http://www.amigahistory.co.uk/de_dev...html#strongarm) - The initial ideas for Tao's Elate technology came from Chris Hinsley (http://mobile.osnews.com/printer.php?news_id=157), among other things author of Onslaught (http://www.lemonamiga.com/games/list...lling%20Screen). <del>Putting together all pieces: after all, AmigaAnywhere is/was AmigaOS5 (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/01...os_5_surfaces/) ;-)</del> So it seems all Tao-based work had been scrapped in AA2, and then the supposedly on-schedule-and-rocking Amiga OS5 was not to be based on Tao technology at all: Bill McEwen: Amiga OS 5 is NOT built on top of Intent and it is not related to Tao. This is 100% Amiga and yes there is a path from OS 4 to OS 5. Source: http://www.amigaflame.com/amibillm.htm Don't know if work started on this Tao-less OS5, but in the end Amiga Inc. admitted AA2 = OS5: Source: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/01...os_5_surfaces/ Cheers, JP Last edited by John Pillow; 03 September 2013 at 10:55. Reason: Clarifications |
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22 August 2013, 15:43 | #2 |
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Small update, with some more notes on Amiga Games Inc.
Known licensed titles so far: Alien Breed: Tower Assault Assassin Battle Chess Deflektor Desert Strike Eye Of The Beholder Eye Of The Beholder II Gods It Came From The Desert PGA Tour Golf Rocket Ranger Super Cars Super Cars 2 Turrican Turrican II: The Final Fight Turrican 3 Valhalla and the Lord of Infinity Valhalla: Before the War Valhalla & the Fortress of Eve Xenon Xenon 2: Megablast Zool Zool 2 What is known so far: - Games are still owned by the original Companies, Amiga Games Inc. just bought the rights to be able to license mobile versions. - Titles will not be distributed though current Amiga emulators, they're not ROMs/ADFs. - The Blackberry releases by Amiga Inc. (http://appworld.blackberry.com/webstore/vendor/21741/) are going to be under the umbrella of Amiga Games Inc., so we can also expect these titles to hit the other announced mobile platforms. - Graphics and audio filtering will be added to improve quality. - Amiga Games Inc. has now a library of 200 - 300 titles/licenses (numbers vary depending on source/website). |
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Seems like it has taken years just to get this far with this project, in a few more years no-one will have an android. Id rather see pro-active hardware rather than re-active software.
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Amiga Anywhere is/was supposed to be a simple software layer (assuming these titles/ports will use AA), so the model here could be somewhat similar to the Amiga Anywhere Player + classic Amiga titles Amiga Inc. rolled out in 2007 - 2008 (not 100% sure of the date). So - as it seems unlikely they have access to the original sourcecodes - some sort of stripped-down UAE must be run on top of AA. A trip down memory lane: [ Show youtube player ] |
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30 August 2013, 10:12 | #6 |
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Just guesswork from my part, but Elysian Labs is following Amiga Forever / Cloanto on Twitter, so a deal could be in place (meaning they have a license to use Kickstart ROMs):
https://twitter.com/ElysianLabs/following On a side note, just noticed that one of the Elysian Labs games is called "Fleecy's World": http://elysianlabs.com/products/fleecys-world/ Hope Barrie Jon "Fleecy" Moss is still alive and well. |
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Funny, someone posted this thread link over at the Amiga Games Inc Facebook page, and AGI replied:
"There are many more entertaining interviews with Pat about his early mobile work, including one where he says he wants a VCR he can control from his phone." So it's confirmed their COO is the same Patrick Roberts that designed the AMIE Console concepts and worked at Disney. Source: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Amiga...22678421089582 |
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Updated first post with some clarifications / sources / confirmations.
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