New amiga games... A500 OCS/ECS or A1200 AGA ?

[DanScott]

Originally Posted by ReadOnlyCat

Truxton on the other hand often has way over 30% of the screen covered by just the player weapons especially with the blue laser one.

You need more than a good programmer to modify 50% of an 8 bpl screen on a 1200, you need additional hardware.

or a very very good HW-Sprite muliplexer

[AnimaInCorpore]

Originally Posted by dlfrsilver

It's doable, but it needs a very good programmer

The myth that will never die.

[vulture]

@ReadOnlyCat

What Dan said. AGA can sport quite wide hw sprites, enough to fill the screen. Besides, there's no need to have the exact same colour count the arcade machine has. You can have a lower amount of colours and enhance the backgrounds with the copper. I'm no programmer mind you, just from what I've read and seen.

[AnimaInCorpore]

Originally Posted by vulture

@ReadOnlyCat

What Dan said. AGA can sport quite wide hw sprites, enough to fill the screen.

You may be not aware of the two parallax scrolling layers with 16+ colours each. So I am very curious how this could be done with "sprite multiplexing".

[kipper2k]

A500 with AGA

[Mrs Beanbag]

you don't need to multiplex AGA sprites to fill the screen, they can be 64 pixels wide so you only need 5 of them. Then of course you can use Dual Playfield as well.

Originally Posted by kipper2k

A500 with AGA

hey i don't suppose you've tried running Mr Beanbag on the Vampire?

[blade002]

Originally Posted by eXeler0

Well...First ever AGA Amiga the world saw shipped with the following specs: 040 CPU, 2MB Chip 4MB FastRAM. ��

Anyway, this discussion is quite irrelevant. The important thing is that the Dev can find the strength and motivation to finish the project. As we all know, starting projects is real easy, finish a polished, fun game that pushes the hardware to its limits.... is rare and will require the Dev to "walk the extra mile". EDIT: --> (Whatever target platform he chooses for his project) <--
But just out of curiosity, you say this a lot; that AGA games have barely scratched the surface of what's possible.. What magic is it you envision when you repeat this..
What is it about games like SlamTilt, SuperStardust, Banshee, Street racer, GeneticSpecies...etc.... that barely scratch the surface of what a vanilla A1200 can do?

Yes I agree with everything you've said here, I was thinking the same thing when reading this thread.

For the past 24 years we've been hearing "AGA hardware hasn't been pushed to it's limit" and nothing has ever come to fruition ever since the Amiga's already aforementioned AGA titles that really did make fantastic use of the AGA Chipset.

Hearing of a new AGA title that will push it to the maximum is as old hat as the time the Amiga would make a comeback all through the 90's as it passed hands.

I appreciate the possibility of this happening but I would just like to see it actually happen for once, so I'm not trying to piss on anyone's Bonfire here, I love the Amiga and would LOVE to see AGA pushed too it's max!

[kipper2k]

Originally Posted by Mrs Beanbag

you don't need to multiplex AGA sprites to fill the screen, they can be 64 pixels wide so you only need 5 of them. Then of course you can use Dual Playfield as well.


hey i don't suppose you've tried running Mr Beanbag on the Vampire?

where is it, i can do a little video ?

[Mrs Beanbag]

Originally Posted by kipper2k

where is it, i can do a little video ?

http://www.glastonbridge.co.uk/mrbeanbag/downloads.php

[kipper2k]

k, thanks, i notice it is AGA, as soon as we get AGA implemented i will use it for testing

[DanScott]

Maybe i should just port Truxton to A500 to show it can be done

Then we can think about the possibilities of an AGA hardware pushing monster!

[dlfrsilver]

hehehe why not ?

[Amiga1992]

Originally Posted by DanScott

Maybe i should just port Truxton to A500 to show it can be done

I would love that, Truxton is awesome. Or maybe something like V-Five? There's so, so many good arcade games that were never ported...

[kipper2k]

I actually voted for a1200 only because i expect the a500 to have AGA and mega speed

[Mrs Beanbag]

i voted A1200 because i thought A500 would have more votes... but i think there should be new games for all the different Amigas, why not

[kipper2k]

The A500 has some amazing games but with the possibility of x13 clock speed (and higher), HDD, AGA and fastmem is it time to start upping the Ante to make better looking games ?

[Mrs Beanbag]

i don't know but i'll still be targetting stock A1200

[Cobe]

Originally Posted by DanScott

Maybe i should just port Truxton to A500 to show it can be done

With two player mode!

At the end I voted for A1200. Not just because I want two player mode but really, hardware wise there are a lot more jawdropping games on A500 than on A1200 and A1200 means CD32 too

[vulture]

@AnimaInCorpse

Mrs Beanbag explained it much better than I could've. I'd just like to add that, even if you go for 16+16 colours, it's not a problem. Sprites can still have a separate palette (afaik) and the background layer can have enhanced colouring with copper's help. So, it's doable. I wasn't talking about 1:1 conversion anyway, but rather a convincing port which may have a few differences, but still be faithful to the original and maybe even be superior at some points (sound, background colours).

[DanScott]

Originally Posted by Cobe

With two player mode!

argghh has to be 2 players for Cobe, of course