PCem - Page 3

Anubis · 12 November 2018, 21:09

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Originally Posted by lesta_smsc

Never knew about PCEmu. I've been using Dosbox and a variant which allows 3DFX glide wrapper drivers for emulating Voodoo. If PCEmu can essentially mimic a 486 PC at FULL speed, I will have to convert!

You can emulate correctly 286, 386, 486 and earlier Pentiums. Some other oldies, including original IBM PC and IBM PCjr are there as well.

IBM PCjr cartridges are not supported yet, but cart2disk of the game still works well.

lesta_smsc · 12 November 2018, 21:17

Do you have to do much set up or is it a matter of selecting the options needed e.g. ram? Video card, soundcard etc? Something like WinUAE with auto configuration would be ideal lol.

Unless it had premade commercial set ups e.g. Packard Bell machine that I had!

Anubis · 13 November 2018, 12:37

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Originally Posted by lesta_smsc

Do you have to do much set up or is it a matter of selecting the options needed e.g. ram? Video card, soundcard etc? Something like WinUAE with auto configuration would be ideal lol.

Unless it had premade commercial set ups e.g. Packard Bell machine that I had!

It is closer to WinUAE than DOSBox, where OS is already setup for you. After installing it (unzipping), you have to select hardware and install software yourself. Here is video (with links) how to install DOS6.22 & Win3.11:
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And video for Win 95 and Win98 (also with links for drivers etc.)
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I still preffer to copy Win9x folder to HD and install from HD, rather then ISO. (old habit are hard to get rid off

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Mav-G also has WinXP and Win2K pcem tutorials.

Anubis · 14 November 2018, 04:35

One thing I did not mention before, both pcem and DOSBox, as well ScummVM sound much better for many games if you install Rolland MT-32 emulator and set it up. It is fairly easy and sounds 'much' better for example in Alien Breed, The Settlers, FlashBack, most of adventure games, Lucas Arts games etc.

Simple steps, download MUNT, install, locate MT-32 rom files (or extract them from real thing), point munt to rom files, change settings in emulator to use MIDI port 1, configure game music to use Roland MT-32, start game and be blown away how better game sound.

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Pyromania · 14 November 2018, 06:14

There's no OS X version of PCem, sniff sniff.

Anubis · 14 November 2018, 14:34

No, nobody took to work on Mac version and Linux is hardly supported.

Time for real computer?

lesta_smsc · 14 November 2018, 14:39

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Originally Posted by Anubis

One thing I did not mention before, both pcem and DOSBox, as well ScummVM sound much better for many games if you install Rolland MT-32 emulator and set it up. It is fairly easy and sounds 'much' better for example in Alien Breed, The Settlers, FlashBack, most of adventure games, Lucas Arts games etc.

Simple steps, download MUNT, install, locate MT-32 rom files (or extract them from real thing), point munt to rom files, change settings in emulator to use MIDI port 1, configure game music to use Roland MT-32, start game and be blown away how better game sound.

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Wow! Thank you for sharing this! Can't wait to try it on the weekend. Me and brother like to network PC for LAN gaming on Dosbox so this may prove a welcome change!

Pyromania · 14 November 2018, 22:29

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Originally Posted by Anubis

No, nobody took to work on Mac version and Linux is hardly supported.

Time for real computer?

Is Windows 10 the real computer you speak of? LOL!

malko · 15 November 2018, 00:07

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Originally Posted by Anubis

Time for real computer?

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Originally Posted by Pyromania

Is Windows 10 the real computer you speak of? LOL!

I don't think it's the "real computer" he was thinking about

!
Most probably

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Originally Posted by Anubis

[...] DOS6.22 & Win3.11 [...]

toples50 · 15 November 2018, 10:44

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Originally Posted by Anubis

No, nobody took to work on Mac version and Linux is hardly supported.

Time for real computer?

Windows is real computer? Oh my God!!!!
I have an i5 Win10 desktop and I prefer all day long my Amiga and my Mac computers.Sorry but Windows sucks.But I'll try the PCem.I hope to work on Win10 machine.

Anubis · 15 November 2018, 12:49

Not connected with rest of topic, but when you start with I have an i5 Win10, should stop there. If Amiga and Mac are able to complete all your computer needs, you would not need a Win10 computer.

Not sure if everyone knows, CD ROM version of flashback has pre-rendered video sequences, while game is still the same. It looks and sounds much better if you use already mentioned Roland MT-32.

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Glen M · 15 November 2018, 14:44

Looks interest so I'll have to check it out as it would be good for testing old games and software before going to the hassle of transferring stuff over to the real machines. I prefer to play retro DOS and windows games on my old laptops. I also have a windows 98 PC but it doesn't get much use to be honest.

Anubis · 15 November 2018, 15:29

I still have multiple laptops and computers, 2 of them are Win98SE, but since pcem they are just on shelf, not being used. Less clutter on my desk.

gimbal · 15 November 2018, 17:22

Those videos look great. A bit shady that the youtube descriptions contain links to full operating system downloads, but I'm not complaining

Mrz · 15 November 2018, 18:09

btw,

PCEM not works fine here if a > pentium 75 mhz or superior speed CPU is set
ie I tried the maximum speed which is a Pentium 233 MMX but the sound and music in games end up corrupted,also I tried pentium 100 pentium 166 etc

so my main config is a Pentium 75 because all faster CPUS don't works fine
can anyone confirm this??

Retroplay · 15 November 2018, 18:17

No, I've had no such problems in the games I've played so far (Sega Rally 2 & Star Wars - Rogue Squadron).

Mrz · 15 November 2018, 18:28

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Originally Posted by Retroplay

No, I've had no such problems in the games I've played so far (Sega Rally 2 & Star Wars - Rogue Squadron).

those are windows games, I'm talking about DOS games because the config I created is DOS 6.22

toples50 · 15 November 2018, 22:25

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Originally Posted by Anubis

Not connected with rest of topic, but when you start with I have an i5 Win10, should stop there. If Amiga and Mac are able to complete all your computer needs, you would not need a Win10 computer.

Not sure if everyone knows, CD ROM version of flashback has pre-rendered video sequences, while game is still the same. It looks and sounds much better if you use already mentioned Roland MT-32.

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It true it's not connected with rest of topic but I have 80 Macs(2 of them use everyday),11 AmigasI and one PC which rarely use.So my computer needs are complete.I have the PC just for comparison and rarely use it.

gimbal · 15 November 2018, 23:12

I used a 486DX33 config (16mb ram, 512mb harddrive) for my Dos machine, have had no problems with it so far. The only thing is that the bios used is aged enough that I had to actually go into the bios configuration to have the primary HDD detected, a blast from the past

For my Windows 98 box I used the exact Pentium 166 setup that the video proposes, also works great.

lesta_smsc · 15 November 2018, 23:13

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Originally Posted by toples50

It true it's not connected with rest of topic but I have 80 Macs(2 of them use everyday),11 AmigasI and one PC which rarely use.So my computer needs are complete.I have the PC just for comparison and rarely use it.

Off topic yet again but... how many systems do you need!? Lol

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Anubis Retro Gamer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Underworld Age: 51 Posts: 4,060	No, nobody took to work on Mac version and Linux is hardly supported. Time for real computer?

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Anubis Retro Gamer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Underworld Age: 51 Posts: 4,060	Not connected with rest of topic, but when you start with I have an i5 Win10, should stop there. If Amiga and Mac are able to complete all your computer needs, you would not need a Win10 computer. Not sure if everyone knows, CD ROM version of flashback has pre-rendered video sequences, while game is still the same. It looks and sounds much better if you use already mentioned Roland MT-32. [ Show youtube player ] [ Show youtube player ]

15 November 2018, 14:44	#52
Glen M Registered User Join Date: May 2017 Location: Belfast Posts: 750	Looks interest so I'll have to check it out as it would be good for testing old games and software before going to the hassle of transferring stuff over to the real machines. I prefer to play retro DOS and windows games on my old laptops. I also have a windows 98 PC but it doesn't get much use to be honest.

15 November 2018, 15:29	#53
Anubis Retro Gamer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Underworld Age: 51 Posts: 4,060	I still have multiple laptops and computers, 2 of them are Win98SE, but since pcem they are just on shelf, not being used. Less clutter on my desk.

15 November 2018, 17:22	#54
gimbal cheeky scoundrel Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Spijkenisse/Netherlands Age: 42 Posts: 6,914	Those videos look great. A bit shady that the youtube descriptions contain links to full operating system downloads, but I'm not complaining

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Mrz Banned Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: I Posts: 338	btw, PCEM not works fine here if a > pentium 75 mhz or superior speed CPU is set ie I tried the maximum speed which is a Pentium 233 MMX but the sound and music in games end up corrupted,also I tried pentium 100 pentium 166 etc so my main config is a Pentium 75 because all faster CPUS don't works fine can anyone confirm this??

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Retroplay Lemon Curry ? Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Denmark Age: 49 Posts: 4,082	No, I've had no such problems in the games I've played so far (Sega Rally 2 & Star Wars - Rogue Squadron).

15 November 2018, 23:12	#59
gimbal cheeky scoundrel Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Spijkenisse/Netherlands Age: 42 Posts: 6,914	I used a 486DX33 config (16mb ram, 512mb harddrive) for my Dos machine, have had no problems with it so far. The only thing is that the bios used is aged enough that I had to actually go into the bios configuration to have the primary HDD detected, a blast from the past For my Windows 98 box I used the exact Pentium 166 setup that the video proposes, also works great.

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