disk.info (ram disk) - directory?!?

honx · 15 January 2018, 20:00

today i encountered something very strange on amigaos 3.9, boingbag 2 and inofficial bb3/4:
ramdisk in shell shows disk.info as directory. why, what's wrong? see attached image.

AMIGASYSTEM · 15 January 2018, 20:23

Try to delete the file Disk.info from the Ram Disk, it may be that you have associated directory icon.

honx · 15 January 2018, 20:35

if i delete it, it's back after reboot. same problem, disk.info as directory.

PeterK · 15 January 2018, 21:11

Maybe you have a buggy link instruction in your startup-sequence for Ram Disk?

AMIGASYSTEM · 15 January 2018, 21:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by honx

if i delete it, it's back after reboot. same problem, disk.info as directory.

You must delete or replace the icon that the system copies into Ram Disk, es. "SYS:Prefs/Env-Archive/Sys/Def_Ram.info", or "S:disk.info" (depending on your method)

daxb · 15 January 2018, 21:28

Or maybe the icon type has changed for some reason. Check the type of the original icon.

honx · 15 January 2018, 21:33

startup-sequence: "SYS:C/MakeLink Ram:disk.info ENVARC:SYS/def_RAM.info SOFT"
despite being an icon file (.info) def_RAM.info icon is only listed in cli but not as icon.
made new drawer, moved def_RAM.info there. on workbench drawer is shown empty.
even when listed as filename instead of icons. of course, all files shown is activated.
this leads to the next problem that i am not able to check any tooltypes on this icon.
a file must be shown in order to being able to highlight a file for amiga+i or rightclick.

if i move it somewhere else, problem gone. but ramdisk has no ramdisk icon anymore.
so how can i fix this problem and keep ramdisk icon?

PeterK · 15 January 2018, 22:37

As I already said, the directory RAM:disk.info is probably created by the MakeLink instruction. I don't remember if this is a bug of only some MakeLink instructions or happens only with softlinks. Check the version of the MakeLink command. I don't know which versions are working correctly, because I never use MakeLink, since Amber-Ram-handler doesn't support links.

In case you have my icon.library installed you would not need that MakeLink instruction in your startup-sequence at all. You just need ENVARC:Sys/def_RAM.info. If you don't like ghosted Ram Disk icons, there is a short guide in my readme file how to disable the ghosting.

AMIGASYSTEM · 16 January 2018, 00:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by honx

startup-sequence: "SYS:C/MakeLink Ram:disk.info ENVARC:SYS/def_RAM.info SOFT"
despite being an icon file (.info) def_RAM.info icon is only listed in cli but not as icon.

Disable startup-sequence: "SYS:C/MakeLink Ram:disk.info ENVARC:SYS/def_RAM.info SOFT" and leave def_RAM.info in "SYS:Prefs/Env-Archive/Sys/Def_Ram.info"

Quote:

made new drawer, moved def_RAM.info there. on workbench drawer is shown empty.

This is normal, the icon "disk" from the Workbench it is not visible in the folder, you can only see Project, Program and Folder icons.

I am attaching one Def_RAM.info copy it into"SYS:Prefs/Env-Archive/Sys/Def_Ram.info"

PeterK · 16 January 2018, 01:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by AMIGASYSTEM

I am attaching one Def_RAM.info copy it into"SYS:Prefs/Env-Archive/Sys/Def_Ram.info"

Thanks AMIGASYSTEM, but why is that Ram Disk icon sooo ugly ?

Better try the Ram Disk icon designed by Ken Lester

(the tooltype "noghost" is already added).

AMIGASYSTEM · 16 January 2018, 03:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by PeterK

Thanks AMIGASYSTEM, but why is that Ram Disk icon sooo ugly ?

I have attached something simple

I have created two hours I hope you enjoy it

PeterK · 16 January 2018, 05:51

Yes, I enjoy it!

Ram3 is a good choice for OS4, but Ram4 and Ram5 need a heat sink!

thomas · 16 January 2018, 08:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by PeterK

In case you have my icon.library installed you would not need that MakeLink instruction in your startup-sequence at all. You just need ENVARC:Sys/def_RAM.info. If you don't like ghosted Ram Disk icons, there is a short guide in my readme file how to disable the ghosting.

What happens if the user drags the icon somewhere or resizes the window and tries to snapshot it? Does your library save the changes to the def icon?

The link allows just that. The icon behaves like a normal icon and all changes are saved to harddisk.

PeterK · 16 January 2018, 09:41

@thomas
Yes, you're right, my library won't save the position and window settings to the def icon. You would have to copy RAM:disk.info ENVARC:Sys/def_RAM.info manually. But honx wanted to get rid of this annoying disk.info directory, and that is probably a side effect of the soft link. I'm not sure if every MakeLink command causes this effect?

With RAWBInfo installed you can use "save as ... (def icon)". That's easier than copying by hand. Ok, one small "problem" remains: icon.library always removes the icon position when loading def icons.

idrougge · 16 January 2018, 10:04

Aren't soft links too buggy to be useful?

AMIGASYSTEM · 16 January 2018, 10:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by PeterK

but Ram4 and Ram5 need a heat sink!

From the translation i do not understand

The command "SYS:C/MakeLink Ram:disk.info ENVARC:SYS/def_RAM.info SOFT" it is very useful for snapshot icon, i first in the startup-sequence i used the command "Copy" but you could not snapshot the icons you had to do it first.

mark_k · 16 January 2018, 12:48

Soft links are a bit weird in AmigaDOS. Some programs which weren't designed to handle them think they are directories. I guess that includes C:Dir!

Rather than use MakeLink, maybe use a command like this instead?
Copy ENVARC:SYS/def_RAM.info RAM:Disk.info

AMIGASYSTEM · 16 January 2018, 14:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by mark_k

Rather than use MakeLink, maybe use a command like this instead?
Copy ENVARC:SYS/def_RAM.info RAM

isk.info

Even I used many years ago "Copy ENVARC:SYS/def_RAM.info RAM:disk.info", but this method does not allow automatic snapshot icon you do with normal icons

method MakeLink yes

PeterK · 16 January 2018, 15:02

If you are so happy with MakeLink is there a disk.info directory shown with dir or list on your system, too?

And if not, which version is your MakeLink command then?

AMIGASYSTEM · 16 January 2018, 15:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by PeterK

If you are so happy with MakeLink is there a disk.info directory shown with dir or list on your system, too?

Yes also tried other versions, MakeLink WB OS2/OS3 it works for this command

15 January 2018, 20:00	#1
honx Registered User Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Klagenfurt / Austria Posts: 1,559	disk.info (ram disk) - directory?!? today i encountered something very strange on amigaos 3.9, boingbag 2 and inofficial bb3/4: ramdisk in shell shows disk.info as directory. why, what's wrong? see attached image. Attached Thumbnails Last edited by honx; 05 February 2018 at 09:16.

15 January 2018, 21:33	#7
honx Registered User Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Klagenfurt / Austria Posts: 1,559	startup-sequence: "SYS:C/MakeLink Ram:disk.info ENVARC:SYS/def_RAM.info SOFT" despite being an icon file (.info) def_RAM.info icon is only listed in cli but not as icon. made new drawer, moved def_RAM.info there. on workbench drawer is shown empty. even when listed as filename instead of icons. of course, all files shown is activated. this leads to the next problem that i am not able to check any tooltypes on this icon. a file must be shown in order to being able to highlight a file for amiga+i or rightclick. if i move it somewhere else, problem gone. but ramdisk has no ramdisk icon anymore. so how can i fix this problem and keep ramdisk icon? Last edited by honx; 15 January 2018 at 21:44.

15 January 2018, 22:37	#8
PeterK Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: digital hell, Germany, after 1984, but worse Posts: 3,365	As I already said, the directory RAM:disk.info is probably created by the MakeLink instruction. I don't remember if this is a bug of only some MakeLink instructions or happens only with softlinks. Check the version of the MakeLink command. I don't know which versions are working correctly, because I never use MakeLink, since Amber-Ram-handler doesn't support links. In case you have my icon.library installed you would not need that MakeLink instruction in your startup-sequence at all. You just need ENVARC:Sys/def_RAM.info. If you don't like ghosted Ram Disk icons, there is a short guide in my readme file how to disable the ghosting. Last edited by PeterK; 15 January 2018 at 22:49.

16 January 2018, 09:41	#14
PeterK Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: digital hell, Germany, after 1984, but worse Posts: 3,365	@thomas Yes, you're right, my library won't save the position and window settings to the def icon. You would have to copy RAM:disk.info ENVARC:Sys/def_RAM.info manually. But honx wanted to get rid of this annoying disk.info directory, and that is probably a side effect of the soft link. I'm not sure if every MakeLink command causes this effect? With RAWBInfo installed you can use "save as ... (def icon)". That's easier than copying by hand. Ok, one small "problem" remains: icon.library always removes the icon position when loading def icons. Last edited by PeterK; 16 January 2018 at 10:07.

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15 January 2018, 20:23	#2
AMIGASYSTEM Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Brindisi (Italy) Age: 70 Posts: 8,248	Try to delete the file Disk.info from the Ram Disk, it may be that you have associated directory icon.

15 January 2018, 20:35	#3
honx Registered User Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Klagenfurt / Austria Posts: 1,559	if i delete it, it's back after reboot. same problem, disk.info as directory.

15 January 2018, 21:11	#4
PeterK Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: digital hell, Germany, after 1984, but worse Posts: 3,365	Maybe you have a buggy link instruction in your startup-sequence for Ram Disk?

15 January 2018, 21:28	#6
daxb Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 3,303	Or maybe the icon type has changed for some reason. Check the type of the original icon.

16 January 2018, 05:51	#12
PeterK Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: digital hell, Germany, after 1984, but worse Posts: 3,365	Yes, I enjoy it! Ram3 is a good choice for OS4, but Ram4 and Ram5 need a heat sink!

16 January 2018, 10:04	#15
idrougge Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Stockholm Posts: 4,332	Aren't soft links too buggy to be useful?

16 January 2018, 12:48	#17
mark_k Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Posts: 3,334	Soft links are a bit weird in AmigaDOS. Some programs which weren't designed to handle them think they are directories. I guess that includes C:Dir! Rather than use MakeLink, maybe use a command like this instead? Copy ENVARC:SYS/def_RAM.info RAM:Disk.info

16 January 2018, 15:02	#19
PeterK Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: digital hell, Germany, after 1984, but worse Posts: 3,365	If you are so happy with MakeLink is there a disk.info directory shown with dir or list on your system, too? And if not, which version is your MakeLink command then?

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