AmigaOS 4.0 + AmigaONE

28 April 2006, 15:48

Hi all!

I'm a software developer and I work mainly on the Mac. I'd like to
contribute to the new AmigaOS 4.0 and start writing some cool apps, but I'm having trouble finding information and places were I can buy an AmigaONE board and AmigaOS 4 to build a new Amiga...

Has anyone here jumped on the new Amigas PowerPC based platform? Can someone guide an old and fervorous Amiga user and evangelist?

Thanks!

Parsec · 28 April 2006, 16:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flink

Has anyone here jumped on the new Amigas PowerPC based platform?

I'd be interested in hearing about people's experiences on this too. I'm not quite sure of the case for the Amiga PPC, personally I'd rather have a classic Amiga for compatibility with all the old software and use a PC for the other stuff including Amiga emulation of course - but everyone's different. I must say the new OS sounds very interesting and it would be cool to have one to play with

_ThEcRoW · 28 April 2006, 16:02

There are no Amiga Ones available, and i think they never will. I suggest you if want to develop amigaish applications take a look at Aros www.aros.org or at Morphos.

DJBase · 28 April 2006, 16:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flink

Has anyone here jumped on the new Amigas PowerPC based platform?

If you mean AmigaONE - no. But I had a Pegasos with MorphOS (which is a PowerPC OS with AmigaOS 3.1 compatible API and 68k Emulator to run old software) for 3 years.

Parsec · 29 April 2006, 01:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by _ThEcRoW

There are no Amiga Ones available, and i think they never will. I suggest you if want to develop amigaish applications take a look at Aros www.aros.org or at Morphos.

Really? I thought Eyetech were selling the boards at one point, although weren't they running Linux until the updated OS shipped?

jrom · 29 April 2006, 01:31

This is NOT true. AmigaONE machines ARE available. Look at the eyetech site for a list of dealers where to order them. OS4 is still in development but I think A1 get's shipped with a beta/developer version... not 100% sure on that though.

Murakami · 29 April 2006, 07:52

Yes, I have an AmigaOne with OS4 for a while now and I'm very happy with it. It's fast, reliable and has a good compatibility with old software (thanks to Petunia and its JIT).

Murakami · 29 April 2006, 08:02

And if you want to know more about the AmigaOne and OS4, check this website :
http://www.intuitionbase.com/

DJBase · 29 April 2006, 13:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by jrom

This is NOT true. AmigaONE machines ARE available. Look at the eyetech site for a list of dealers where to order them. OS4 is still in development but I think A1 get's shipped with a beta/developer version... not 100% sure on that though.

The AmigaONEs are no longer available since over 1 year now and it seems they won't be available anymore in the future.

Raislin77it · 29 April 2006, 13:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by jrom

This is NOT true. AmigaONE machines ARE available. Look at the eyetech site for a list of dealers where to order them. OS4 is still in development but I think A1 get's shipped with a beta/developer version... not 100% sure on that though.

No,
amigaones aren't available, the production was stopped 1 year ago and there aren't machine available to purchase, the os is continued, but only for amigaone and the other discontinued (for at least one year now)board from eyetech
instead buy a pegasos2 , it's a nice machine and is "retrocompatible" with the old amiga "wb-friendly" utility
however if u don't want to buy a new machine there is a cross platform compiler for win able to compile programs for aos3,os4,morphos and aros
here the link

http://amidevcpp.amiga-world.de/

Charlie · 29 April 2006, 14:44

Sell me a version of OS4 that will work on a 'standard' PPC box, or even better: x86

Even a ppc-ish console version? - XBox 360?

I'll drop Amithlon in a flash.

-Back on topic-

I agree that AROS would IMO be the best place for a tallented / interested developer to get involved - there is also still much room to get in on the ground floor.
( Who would use a pile of poo like Linux if AROS gets to the point where it's reasonably mature with decent software support? - Dreaming again )

Much as I hate to say it I can't see AOS4 getting anywhere without a stronger hardware base. MOS, though great, seems sadly to be in much the same boat - Pegasos boards being rather more available notwithstanding.

Hmm - controversial opinions. I am sane, honest!

RetroMan · 30 April 2006, 00:29

"New" AmigaOnes are in the production line right now, it has been stopped for a while because of difficulties in getting new G3/G4 PPC CPUs ....

Anyway, IMHO the AOne is a very nice system, I got mine in January 2006 (used) and I´m very satisfied with it

But I also think the price is a "bit" high ....

Fred the Fop · 30 April 2006, 04:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by RetroMan

"New" AmigaOnes are in the production line right now, it has been stopped for a while because of difficulties in getting new G3/G4 PPC CPUs ....

Anyway, IMHO the AOne is a very nice system, I got mine in January 2006 (used) and I´m very satisfied with it

But I also think the price is a "bit" high ....

AmigaNONE is for fanatics, or collectors (like you).
It is a platform for a tiny audience and not worth investing in.

Mick_AKA · 30 April 2006, 16:31

Im afraid I have to agree with Fred on this one, just cant see any point at all in wasting my money on an A-One, it would probarbly sit in a corner unused somewhere.
Kudos to all you nutters that do own one though

RetroMan · 30 April 2006, 21:58

Well, it depends what you really want to do ....

I still enjoy my classic Amigas (and I have plenty of´em

) but if I want to do some serios work I use my AOne, it can do everything .... maybe except Video Editing, but thats a lack of software not hardware fault .....

Sure, the Pegasos can do all that too but hey, I got MorphOS running on my A1200 PPC, so .....

Fred the Fop · 30 April 2006, 22:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by RetroMan

Well, it depends what you really want to do ....

I still enjoy my classic Amigas (and I have plenty of´em

) but if I want to do some serios work I use my AOne, it can do everything .... maybe except Video Editing, but thats a lack of software not hardware fault .....

Sure, the Pegasos can do all that too but hey, I got MorphOS running on my A1200 PPC, so .....

You can do "everything" at extremely limited choices compared to Windows/Mac/Linux.

Mick_AKA · 30 April 2006, 23:02

Exactly, I do allot of work from home and for compatibility its either my Mac or my Peecee, an AOne would be totally useless to me me unless I could run 3DS Max, Maya, ZBrush and Photoshop on it

Fred the Fop · 30 April 2006, 23:06

On the gaming front, what games are exclusive to AmigaOne? I mean, there are PPC only and AGA only games, true, so a Amiga 1200 or PPC expansion would do nicely for those, or WinUAE of course.

RetroMan · 01 May 2006, 00:18

Well, I can run any Amiga PPC Game on AOne .... but WAY faster

E-UAE is also very usable on AOS4, no problem in getting those old games running, also all 68k apps run very smoothly ! Thanks to Petunia they are way faster on AOne then on any 68k 060er CPU ....

As I said, only thing I´m missing is a good Video Authoring Tool ! Everything else is there, even if it´s a 68k thingy .....

DJBase · 01 May 2006, 01:28

You forgot all those SDL Ports....Killa-Apps...

28 April 2006, 15:48	#1
Flink Posts: n/a	AmigaOS 4.0 + AmigaONE Hi all! I'm a software developer and I work mainly on the Mac. I'd like to contribute to the new AmigaOS 4.0 and start writing some cool apps, but I'm having trouble finding information and places were I can buy an AmigaONE board and AmigaOS 4 to build a new Amiga... Has anyone here jumped on the new Amigas PowerPC based platform? Can someone guide an old and fervorous Amiga user and evangelist? Thanks!

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28 April 2006, 16:02	#3
_ThEcRoW Amiga NetRunner Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Spain Age: 45 Posts: 941	There are no Amiga Ones available, and i think they never will. I suggest you if want to develop amigaish applications take a look at Aros www.aros.org or at Morphos.

29 April 2006, 01:31	#6
jrom Wannabe asm coder ;) Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Netherlands Age: 47 Posts: 459	This is NOT true. AmigaONE machines ARE available. Look at the eyetech site for a list of dealers where to order them. OS4 is still in development but I think A1 get's shipped with a beta/developer version... not 100% sure on that though.

29 April 2006, 07:52	#7
Murakami Zone Friend Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Flayosc / France Age: 56 Posts: 57	Yes, I have an AmigaOne with OS4 for a while now and I'm very happy with it. It's fast, reliable and has a good compatibility with old software (thanks to Petunia and its JIT).

29 April 2006, 08:02	#8
Murakami Zone Friend Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Flayosc / France Age: 56 Posts: 57	And if you want to know more about the AmigaOne and OS4, check this website : http://www.intuitionbase.com/

29 April 2006, 14:44	#11
Charlie . . Mouse . . Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Nowhere Age: 55 Posts: 1,792	Sell me a version of OS4 that will work on a 'standard' PPC box, or even better: x86 Even a ppc-ish console version? - XBox 360? I'll drop Amithlon in a flash. -Back on topic- I agree that AROS would IMO be the best place for a tallented / interested developer to get involved - there is also still much room to get in on the ground floor. ( Who would use a pile of poo like Linux if AROS gets to the point where it's reasonably mature with decent software support? - Dreaming again ) Much as I hate to say it I can't see AOS4 getting anywhere without a stronger hardware base. MOS, though great, seems sadly to be in much the same boat - Pegasos boards being rather more available notwithstanding. Hmm - controversial opinions. I am sane, honest!

30 April 2006, 00:29	#12
RetroMan Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Germany Age: 51 Posts: 3,704	"New" AmigaOnes are in the production line right now, it has been stopped for a while because of difficulties in getting new G3/G4 PPC CPUs .... Anyway, IMHO the AOne is a very nice system, I got mine in January 2006 (used) and I´m very satisfied with it But I also think the price is a "bit" high ....

30 April 2006, 16:31	#14
Mick_AKA crusader of light Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Stone, Staffordshire. Posts: 1,151	Im afraid I have to agree with Fred on this one, just cant see any point at all in wasting my money on an A-One, it would probarbly sit in a corner unused somewhere. Kudos to all you nutters that do own one though

30 April 2006, 21:58	#15
RetroMan Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Germany Age: 51 Posts: 3,704	Well, it depends what you really want to do .... I still enjoy my classic Amigas (and I have plenty of´em ) but if I want to do some serios work I use my AOne, it can do everything .... maybe except Video Editing, but thats a lack of software not hardware fault ..... Sure, the Pegasos can do all that too but hey, I got MorphOS running on my A1200 PPC, so .....

30 April 2006, 23:02	#17
Mick_AKA crusader of light Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Stone, Staffordshire. Posts: 1,151	Exactly, I do allot of work from home and for compatibility its either my Mac or my Peecee, an AOne would be totally useless to me me unless I could run 3DS Max, Maya, ZBrush and Photoshop on it

30 April 2006, 23:06	#18
Fred the Fop flaming faggot Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Versailles Age: 55 Posts: 2,808	On the gaming front, what games are exclusive to AmigaOne? I mean, there are PPC only and AGA only games, true, so a Amiga 1200 or PPC expansion would do nicely for those, or WinUAE of course.

01 May 2006, 00:18	#19
RetroMan Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Germany Age: 51 Posts: 3,704	Well, I can run any Amiga PPC Game on AOne .... but WAY faster E-UAE is also very usable on AOS4, no problem in getting those old games running, also all 68k apps run very smoothly ! Thanks to Petunia they are way faster on AOne then on any 68k 060er CPU .... As I said, only thing I´m missing is a good Video Authoring Tool ! Everything else is there, even if it´s a 68k thingy .....

01 May 2006, 01:28	#20
DJBase Amiga is my Religion Join Date: May 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 578	You forgot all those SDL Ports....Killa-Apps...

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