Best Joypad?

Moroder · 21 December 2009, 15:58

Hey there, I've got a joystick and a joypad for my amigas. The joystick is a Powerplay Cruiser (black), and the joypad is a Sega Genesis/Megadrive pad clone. I grew up with Nintendo systems, so I am more customed playing with joypads rather than sticks. Playing Turrican with the Cruiser is impossible for me, it's much easier with the Genesis clone pad, but it feels "cheap". My question is, should I get a proper Genesis/Megadrive pad, or are there any other pads that are better to use with the Amiga (especially for Turrican)?

Thanks.

Retro-Nerd · 21 December 2009, 16:02

Turrican has no jump button, so a joystick is highly recommended imho. Anyway, if you prefer joypads you should try to get the original Sega 6-Button pad or the Competition Pro/Honey Bee pad.

Moroder · 21 December 2009, 16:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd

Turrican has no jump button, so a joystick is highly recommended imho. Anyway, if you prefer joypads you should try to get the original Sega 6-Button pad oder the Competition Pro/Honey Bee pad.

I know that it doesn't have a jump button, but I still prefer a joypad... Thanks!

Peter · 21 December 2009, 16:07

I would stick to a Sega Mega Drive Pad but take a look at this thread for some more info...

Retro-Nerd · 21 December 2009, 16:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moroder

I know that it doesn't have a jump button, but I still prefer a joypad... Thanks!

I suggested two good joypads.

Moroder · 21 December 2009, 16:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd

I suggested two good joypads.

Yes, and I thanked you for it!

Retro1234 · 21 December 2009, 16:32

Turrican does support 2 buttons -The Competition Pro/Honey Bee pad is definitely the best Cant see any point getting a six button sega pad

Retro-Nerd · 21 December 2009, 16:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boo Boo

Turrican does support 2 buttons -The Competition Pro/Honey Bee pad is definitely the best Cant see any point getting a six button sega pad

The CP/Honey Bee pad is rarely available and expensive, especially in mint/new condition. The Sega Genesis 6-Button pad is widely available, at half the price.

Retro1234 · 21 December 2009, 16:41

I use to have the honey bee with a CD32

The six button sega pad only 2 buttons will work I think? but if its cheap

Retro-Nerd · 21 December 2009, 16:43

Sure, only 2 buttons work with the 6-button Genesis pad (and it's better than the original 3-button pad, e.g. the d-pad). Enough for all non CD32 games.

Moroder · 21 December 2009, 16:53

Thanks everyone - Will get a Genesis/Megadrive pad.

Jonathan Drain · 21 December 2009, 18:08

I'm a fan of the Playstation and XBox 360 controllers for WinUAE, though I don't know if there's an Amiga adaptor.

Retro-Nerd · 21 December 2009, 18:09

The d-pad is very important imho. And the SMS, PSX or X-Box 360 d-pads are awful.

TCD · 21 December 2009, 18:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd

The d-pad is very important imho.

When I use my PS2esque joypad with WinUAE, I use the analgoue stick... I know that I'm a heretic and should burn in hell

It works quite nicely though for me.

Retro-Nerd · 21 December 2009, 18:56

Using the PSX analog stick with WinUAE jump buttons is ok, not perfect but ok. You would need this button programmable PSX2Amiga adapter for real Amigas for the same effect. Analog stick only control for jumping is crap though.

wlcina · 21 December 2009, 19:31

real amiga:
Competition Pro is the best joystick for real amiga, you can easily mod it:
2 mods will be required to enhance powerplay:
1) autofire mod (LM 555 oscillator) : http://www94.pair.com/jsoper/autofire.html (very cheap) with switch
2) 2nd button (buy new 9line com cable, and replace original 6lined)
(my setup:
switch on: left button autofire, right button normal fire
switch off: left button normal fire, right button :2nd button)

winuae:
USB Competition pro - you dont have mod it, it has autofire and 4 buttons

cv643d · 21 December 2009, 21:36

Best overall joypad is the Sega Saturn Joypad (japanese), but for the Amiga the Sega Mastersystem gamepad is great IMHO.

Used one BITD so much the d-pad got worn out, and surprisingly many games support 2 buttons.

Also, you can alwasy wire up or down to a button, so you can jump with a button instead of pressing up or down.

Retro-Nerd · 21 December 2009, 22:00

Sure, the Japanese Sega Saturn Pad is the best for 2D games ever. I would die for an Amiga2Saturn adapter. I use it on my Dreamcast for emulators and it's great.

The SMS pad is pretty basic, imho you can barely control a game with this d-pad. The NES controller was better and beginning with the PCE controller the joypads were better and better.

Retro-Nerd · 21 December 2009, 22:23

I recommend the Tecno Plus pad too. It looks awful, but the d-pad is surprisingly good enough (no sharp cross edges), the buttons too.

http://www.vesalia.de/e_tp511.htm

Hungry Horace · 21 December 2009, 23:55

i love PS1/2/3 pads, both d-pad and analogue. I would recommend a PS1/2 USB adaptor for anyone using emulation, and a PS-CD32 Adaptor to anyone using original hardware!

On my A1200 though, my favourite is actual a Polish 3rd party PSX pad. The D-Pad on that is better even than the CD32 Competition Pro. (of which i am also a fan)

The Mastersystem pad is ok, but i dont really like anything that has raised points to stick your thumb into (the C= CD32 pads biggest and most painful flaw)

I quite like the original Sega Megadrive pads on the rare occasions i get to use them.

21 December 2009, 15:58	#1
Moroder Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: aarhus / denmark Posts: 58	Best Joypad? Hey there, I've got a joystick and a joypad for my amigas. The joystick is a Powerplay Cruiser (black), and the joypad is a Sega Genesis/Megadrive pad clone. I grew up with Nintendo systems, so I am more customed playing with joypads rather than sticks. Playing Turrican with the Cruiser is impossible for me, it's much easier with the Genesis clone pad, but it feels "cheap". My question is, should I get a proper Genesis/Megadrive pad, or are there any other pads that are better to use with the Amiga (especially for Turrican)? Thanks.

21 December 2009, 16:02	#2
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,435	Turrican has no jump button, so a joystick is highly recommended imho. Anyway, if you prefer joypads you should try to get the original Sega 6-Button pad or the Competition Pro/Honey Bee pad. Last edited by Retro-Nerd; 21 December 2009 at 16:15.

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21 December 2009, 16:07	#4
Peter Still an Amiga user Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Kent Age: 55 Posts: 2,715	I would stick to a Sega Mega Drive Pad but take a look at this thread for some more info...

21 December 2009, 16:32	#7
Retro1234 Phone Homer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: 5150 Posts: 5,773	Turrican does support 2 buttons -The Competition Pro/Honey Bee pad is definitely the best Cant see any point getting a six button sega pad

21 December 2009, 16:41	#9
Retro1234 Phone Homer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: 5150 Posts: 5,773	I use to have the honey bee with a CD32 The six button sega pad only 2 buttons will work I think? but if its cheap

21 December 2009, 16:43	#10
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,435	Sure, only 2 buttons work with the 6-button Genesis pad (and it's better than the original 3-button pad, e.g. the d-pad). Enough for all non CD32 games.

21 December 2009, 16:53	#11
Moroder Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: aarhus / denmark Posts: 58	Thanks everyone - Will get a Genesis/Megadrive pad.

21 December 2009, 18:08	#12
Jonathan Drain Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Sector K240 Posts: 338	I'm a fan of the Playstation and XBox 360 controllers for WinUAE, though I don't know if there's an Amiga adaptor.

21 December 2009, 18:09	#13
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,435	The d-pad is very important imho. And the SMS, PSX or X-Box 360 d-pads are awful.

21 December 2009, 18:56	#15
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,435	Using the PSX analog stick with WinUAE jump buttons is ok, not perfect but ok. You would need this button programmable PSX2Amiga adapter for real Amigas for the same effect. Analog stick only control for jumping is crap though.

21 December 2009, 19:31	#16
wlcina Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Czech republic Posts: 580	real amiga: Competition Pro is the best joystick for real amiga, you can easily mod it: 2 mods will be required to enhance powerplay: 1) autofire mod (LM 555 oscillator) : http://www94.pair.com/jsoper/autofire.html (very cheap) with switch 2) 2nd button (buy new 9line com cable, and replace original 6lined) (my setup: switch on: left button autofire, right button normal fire switch off: left button normal fire, right button :2nd button) winuae: USB Competition pro - you dont have mod it, it has autofire and 4 buttons

21 December 2009, 21:36	#17
cv643d Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 762	Best overall joypad is the Sega Saturn Joypad (japanese), but for the Amiga the Sega Mastersystem gamepad is great IMHO. Used one BITD so much the d-pad got worn out, and surprisingly many games support 2 buttons. Also, you can alwasy wire up or down to a button, so you can jump with a button instead of pressing up or down.

21 December 2009, 22:00	#18
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,435	Sure, the Japanese Sega Saturn Pad is the best for 2D games ever. I would die for an Amiga2Saturn adapter. I use it on my Dreamcast for emulators and it's great. The SMS pad is pretty basic, imho you can barely control a game with this d-pad. The NES controller was better and beginning with the PCE controller the joypads were better and better.

21 December 2009, 22:23	#19
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,435	I recommend the Tecno Plus pad too. It looks awful, but the d-pad is surprisingly good enough (no sharp cross edges), the buttons too. http://www.vesalia.de/e_tp511.htm

21 December 2009, 23:55	#20
Hungry Horace Wipe-Out Enthusiast Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: . Age: 43 Posts: 2,538	i love PS1/2/3 pads, both d-pad and analogue. I would recommend a PS1/2 USB adaptor for anyone using emulation, and a PS-CD32 Adaptor to anyone using original hardware! On my A1200 though, my favourite is actual a Polish 3rd party PSX pad. The D-Pad on that is better even than the CD32 Competition Pro. (of which i am also a fan) The Mastersystem pad is ok, but i dont really like anything that has raised points to stick your thumb into (the C= CD32 pads biggest and most painful flaw) I quite like the original Sega Megadrive pads on the rare occasions i get to use them.

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