icon.library 46.4 test versions - Page 155

AMIGASYSTEM · 10 February 2019, 00:20

I renamed picture_datatype.exe and nothing has changed!

PeterK · 10 February 2019, 00:33

Yes, your Eastern preview icons still have a bad scaling. Did you make a Coldstart of WinUAE? I'm not talking about the scaling of your picture viewer or its window sizes as you showed me in your video.

Did you set the SCALEQUALITY=BEST or SQ=BEST in the Eastern tooltypes?

AMIGASYSTEM · 10 February 2019, 01:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by PeterK

Yes, your Eastern preview icons still have a bad scaling. Did you make a Coldstart of WinUAE?

No on WinUAE I use the default settings A4000

Quote:

Did you set the SCALEQUALITY=BEST or SQ=BEST in the Eastern tooltypes?

Yes, i had "SQ=BEST", but I also had other parameters that I eliminated, they look perfect now.

PeterK · 10 February 2019, 01:48

Yes, that looks much better now! (with picture_datatype.exe or without it?)

AMIGASYSTEM · 10 February 2019, 01:51

Renamed picture_datatype.exe

AMIGASYSTEM · 10 February 2019, 21:22

Ok also fixed OS 3.1.4, unfortunately with the KickStart 3.1.4 A1200 you can not emulate an A4000 RTG, now I have configured an A1200 RTG, now it is much faster, even Eastern now works well and is fast with OS 3.1.4 standard that with OS 3.1.4 AfA-OS

PeterK · 10 February 2019, 23:15

I would never use a Quickstart system in my WinUAE setup. I prefer to use the fastest possible 68020+68882 configuration and I don't know why I should emulate particular hardware except for some tests maybe. Most of my systems are installed directly in PC directories, so I don't need any hardware dependent scsi.device either. And why should I use a 68040/60 CPU with a reduced FPU instruction set and the need for 68040/60.library? RTG is uaegfx, of course.

My 3.1.4 Kickstart is for A500/600/2000 and I never had any problems with lower speed yet, not even with a 68040 CPU, but I still don't have replaced all OS 3.9 files with newer 3.1.4 versions, only a few and just step by step.

AMIGASYSTEM · 11 February 2019, 00:04

Peter the QuickStart is just starting, then I add what I need, I use CPU 68040/60 + FPU because in the system I have libraries and applications that require that configuration, AfA-OS without FPU does not work.

I know that on WinUAE there is not much difference between 68020 and 68060, but with the 68060 on an RTG system you can see some improvement.

You use 3.1.4 Kickstart is for A500/600/2000 but you can't use an A1200 RTG configuration, try setting the "ChipSet A1200" and you'll see that the Picasso drivers won't work.

Same thing happens if with Kickstart A1200 OS 3.1.4 RTG that doesn't work with a ChipSet "A4000"

Retrofan · 11 February 2019, 02:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by PeterK

Hello Retrofan
nice to see you again. What has happened to your AKReal? There were no news from you for a long time now.

Yep, when you have to separate from your partner it isn't easy. Let's say that I'm not "here" yet again, but I will be, I hope. I just hope that you can understand me.

PeterK · 11 February 2019, 03:13

@Retrofan
I hope you can find a solution to let AKReal stand on your/its own legs (or feet as we say in Germany). Good luck for your project.

----------------

@AMIGASYSTEM
Ok, there are some rare cases where programs are not compiled for a 68020 CPU like the latest ixemul.library which needs a 060.

AfA just runs fine with a 68881/2 FPU, and that is always much better than a 68040/60 FPU.

I'm too lazy to build a new test system (and don't have 3.1.4 A1200) to check what's going wrong with your A1200 or A4000 configuration and the Picasso monitor drivers, but I'm sure there is a solution to fix that under Kickstart 3.1.4.

Retrofan · 11 February 2019, 03:22

Well, now that you mention this, I was thinking about if it could be possible to make a script in the WBStartup to check for every new version of the Icon library if you've got an internet connection, so the updates would walk with their own feet.

PeterK · 11 February 2019, 03:29

In principle a very good idea, but pretty much unrealistic, since I have no plans for further updates yet.

kolla · 11 February 2019, 03:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retrofan

Well, now that you mention this, I was thinking about if it would be possible to make a script in the WBStartup to check for every new version of the Icon library if you've got an internet connection, so the updates would walk with their own feet.

I do this already, allthough from a menu entry and not wbstartup.

Retrofan · 11 February 2019, 03:34

Please tell how you're doing it, it's very interesting. PeterK will be releasing some more updates as we all know. He is making such a great job for the miggy that he can't finish upgrading it till it is impossible for him. You know that a bit saved is always a success.

PeterK · 11 February 2019, 03:35

Scroll down to the last sentence in my Readme ...

Retrofan · 11 February 2019, 03:59

Uuuufff. I know about what you've told, but ... now/so near?. Really?

Then you've got to know that I love what you've done, your hard work on it and all of what you've offered to everyone interested.

Keep the faith, it isn't never ended, you'll keep on working somewhere else, that's my idea. I send you my biggest hug and a kiss

. You're actually a legend in the Amiga software and I just couldn't had ported AmiKit to AKReal without your library as you may know. But of course it's every Amiga user that has to be grateful and proud of such an "Amigan" like you've always been.

Keep posting here as long as you can; every post you make will be remembered.

PeterK · 11 February 2019, 04:16

Of course, I will always release fixes for any bugs reported here, but there were ~1500 downloads of build 511 and no complaints about anything going wrong. And I think I can't make speed twice as fast again as in build 506, I have no hope or any ideas on how to repeat that. I'm losing more and more cells of my brain every day by drinking too much red wine, just like now ... not the best condition for brilliant ideas in the future ...

Retrofan · 11 February 2019, 04:24

Do not worry about brain cells. This is totally offtopic but if you read Michael Talbot's book http://users.unitz.ca/napalm/The_Hol...ael_Talbot.pdf
you'll see that the experiments with rats cutting parts of their brains couldn't stop them from finding the cheese in the labyrinth. So the information you've learned keeps stored somewhere else.

BTW you know that you've got my email and we can talk in private about whatever.

AMIGASYSTEM · 11 February 2019, 05:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by PeterK

I'm too lazy to build a new test system (and don't have 3.1.4 A1200) to check what's going wrong with your A1200 or A4000 configuration and the Picasso monitor drivers, but I'm sure there is a solution to fix that under Kickstart 3.1.4.

No Kickstart 3.1.4 A1200 with A1200 all right, you can't just use an A4000 configuration.

PeterK · 12 February 2019, 18:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by AMIGASYSTEM

No Kickstart 3.1.4 A1200 with A1200 all right, you can't just use an A4000 configuration.

A similar problem and a comment from Toni:
http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=96289

@Retrofan
Poor rats! ... but it's similar with me, I can still find my red wine.

10 February 2019, 00:20	#3081
AMIGASYSTEM Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Brindisi (Italy) Age: 70 Posts: 8,248	I renamed picture_datatype.exe and nothing has changed! Last edited by AMIGASYSTEM; 10 February 2019 at 09:15.

10 February 2019, 00:33	#3082
PeterK Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: digital hell, Germany, after 1984, but worse Posts: 3,365	Yes, your Eastern preview icons still have a bad scaling. Did you make a Coldstart of WinUAE? I'm not talking about the scaling of your picture viewer or its window sizes as you showed me in your video. Did you set the SCALEQUALITY=BEST or SQ=BEST in the Eastern tooltypes? Last edited by PeterK; 10 February 2019 at 00:44.

10 February 2019, 21:22	#3086
AMIGASYSTEM Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Brindisi (Italy) Age: 70 Posts: 8,248	Ok also fixed OS 3.1.4, unfortunately with the KickStart 3.1.4 A1200 you can not emulate an A4000 RTG, now I have configured an A1200 RTG, now it is much faster, even Eastern now works well and is fast with OS 3.1.4 standard that with OS 3.1.4 AfA-OS Last edited by AMIGASYSTEM; 18 February 2019 at 23:11.

11 February 2019, 00:04	#3088
AMIGASYSTEM Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Brindisi (Italy) Age: 70 Posts: 8,248	Peter the QuickStart is just starting, then I add what I need, I use CPU 68040/60 + FPU because in the system I have libraries and applications that require that configuration, AfA-OS without FPU does not work. I know that on WinUAE there is not much difference between 68020 and 68060, but with the 68060 on an RTG system you can see some improvement. You use 3.1.4 Kickstart is for A500/600/2000 but you can't use an A1200 RTG configuration, try setting the "ChipSet A1200" and you'll see that the Picasso drivers won't work. Same thing happens if with Kickstart A1200 OS 3.1.4 RTG that doesn't work with a ChipSet "A4000" Last edited by AMIGASYSTEM; 11 February 2019 at 00:52.

11 February 2019, 03:22	#3091
Retrofan Ruler of the Universe Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Lanzarote/Spain Posts: 6,185	Well, now that you mention this, I was thinking about if it could be possible to make a script in the WBStartup to check for every new version of the Icon library if you've got an internet connection, so the updates would walk with their own feet. Last edited by Retrofan; 11 February 2019 at 03:31.

10 February 2019, 01:48	#3084
PeterK Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: digital hell, Germany, after 1984, but worse Posts: 3,365	Yes, that looks much better now! (with picture_datatype.exe or without it?)

10 February 2019, 01:51	#3085
AMIGASYSTEM Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Brindisi (Italy) Age: 70 Posts: 8,248	Renamed picture_datatype.exe

10 February 2019, 23:15	#3087
PeterK Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: digital hell, Germany, after 1984, but worse Posts: 3,365	I would never use a Quickstart system in my WinUAE setup. I prefer to use the fastest possible 68020+68882 configuration and I don't know why I should emulate particular hardware except for some tests maybe. Most of my systems are installed directly in PC directories, so I don't need any hardware dependent scsi.device either. And why should I use a 68040/60 CPU with a reduced FPU instruction set and the need for 68040/60.library? RTG is uaegfx, of course. My 3.1.4 Kickstart is for A500/600/2000 and I never had any problems with lower speed yet, not even with a 68040 CPU, but I still don't have replaced all OS 3.9 files with newer 3.1.4 versions, only a few and just step by step.

11 February 2019, 03:13	#3090
PeterK Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: digital hell, Germany, after 1984, but worse Posts: 3,365	@Retrofan I hope you can find a solution to let AKReal stand on your/its own legs (or feet as we say in Germany). Good luck for your project. ---------------- @AMIGASYSTEM Ok, there are some rare cases where programs are not compiled for a 68020 CPU like the latest ixemul.library which needs a 060. AfA just runs fine with a 68881/2 FPU, and that is always much better than a 68040/60 FPU. I'm too lazy to build a new test system (and don't have 3.1.4 A1200) to check what's going wrong with your A1200 or A4000 configuration and the Picasso monitor drivers, but I'm sure there is a solution to fix that under Kickstart 3.1.4.

11 February 2019, 03:29	#3092
PeterK Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: digital hell, Germany, after 1984, but worse Posts: 3,365	In principle a very good idea, but pretty much unrealistic, since I have no plans for further updates yet.

11 February 2019, 03:34	#3094
Retrofan Ruler of the Universe Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Lanzarote/Spain Posts: 6,185	Please tell how you're doing it, it's very interesting. PeterK will be releasing some more updates as we all know. He is making such a great job for the miggy that he can't finish upgrading it till it is impossible for him. You know that a bit saved is always a success. Last edited by Retrofan; 11 February 2019 at 03:42.

11 February 2019, 03:35	#3095
PeterK Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: digital hell, Germany, after 1984, but worse Posts: 3,365	Scroll down to the last sentence in my Readme ...

11 February 2019, 03:59	#3096
Retrofan Ruler of the Universe Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Lanzarote/Spain Posts: 6,185	Uuuufff. I know about what you've told, but ... now/so near?. Really? Then you've got to know that I love what you've done, your hard work on it and all of what you've offered to everyone interested. Keep the faith, it isn't never ended, you'll keep on working somewhere else, that's my idea. I send you my biggest hug and a kiss . You're actually a legend in the Amiga software and I just couldn't had ported AmiKit to AKReal without your library as you may know. But of course it's every Amiga user that has to be grateful and proud of such an "Amigan" like you've always been. Keep posting here as long as you can; every post you make will be remembered.

11 February 2019, 04:16	#3097
PeterK Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: digital hell, Germany, after 1984, but worse Posts: 3,365	Of course, I will always release fixes for any bugs reported here, but there were ~1500 downloads of build 511 and no complaints about anything going wrong. And I think I can't make speed twice as fast again as in build 506, I have no hope or any ideas on how to repeat that. I'm losing more and more cells of my brain every day by drinking too much red wine, just like now ... not the best condition for brilliant ideas in the future ...

11 February 2019, 04:24	#3098
Retrofan Ruler of the Universe Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Lanzarote/Spain Posts: 6,185	Do not worry about brain cells. This is totally offtopic but if you read Michael Talbot's book http://users.unitz.ca/napalm/The_Hol...ael_Talbot.pdf you'll see that the experiments with rats cutting parts of their brains couldn't stop them from finding the cheese in the labyrinth. So the information you've learned keeps stored somewhere else. BTW you know that you've got my email and we can talk in private about whatever. Last edited by Retrofan; 11 February 2019 at 04:32.

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