RedPill - Amiga Game Creator Program

[Zener]

I meant there is an HD, maybe it has some libs that are needed?

[Yoz Montana]

Originally Posted by Zener

I meant there is an HD, maybe it has some libs that are needed?

after more configurations in Wiuae CD32 KS Rom v3.1 + CD32 extented Rom = no CD sound in RedPill. Same in AmigaKit.
However, CD32 games work very well in Winuae.

For CD32 button behaviors, do you have a solution?

[Zener]

Originally Posted by Yoz Montana

after more configurations in Wiuae CD32 KS Rom v3.1 + CD32 extented Rom = no CD sound in RedPill. Same in AmigaKit.
However, CD32 games work very well in Winuae.

For CD32 button behaviors, do you have a solution?

Could you explain me what is your expected behavior for buttons?

Like fire1 is same as red (or not), this kind of thing

[Yoz Montana]

Originally Posted by Zener

Could you explain me what is your expected behavior for buttons?

Like fire1 is same as red (or not), this kind of thing

As explain in my old post, i replaced the buttons Up, fire1 and fire2 with the CD32 buttons. Their behavior is not the same.

Prerequisites :
In the code, I blocked up to three bullets , you can not shoot more than 3 bullets.


Look at the behavior fire with button CD32, the three bullets are launched at the same time.
This behavior is NOT correct:


Normaly with fire1 or fire2 buttons , the three bullets are launched separately each time the key is pressed (Maxi 3).
This behavior is correct :


For resume, the behavior of the CD32 buttons is not correct compared to the fire1, fire2, Up, Down, Right, Left behaviors.

[Yoz Montana]

Hi Zener,

Do you have a good news about an upcoming UPDATE ?

[Zener]

The update is here, this new REDPILL build has some optimizations https://tiny.cc/getredpill

v0.7.7
-Action triggers have been optimized to speed up the object processing.
-Fixed possible error when using many audio files.
-Fixed game object icons failing to render in exported projects.
-Action trigger animation to angle was not working under certain conditions.
-Optimized memory used by objects when using REDPILLPlayer.
-Optimized chip memory used by objects when using REDPILLPlayer.
-CD32 Red button does not trigger Fire1 anymore.

[Yoz Montana]

Originally Posted by Zener

The update is here, this new REDPILL build has some optimizations https://tiny.cc/getredpill

v0.7.7
-Action triggers have been optimized to speed up the object processing.
-Fixed possible error when using many audio files.
-Fixed game object icons failing to render in exported projects.
-Action trigger animation to angle was not working under certain conditions.
-Optimized memory used by objects when using REDPILLPlayer.
-Optimized chip memory used by objects when using REDPILLPlayer.
-CD32 Red button does not trigger Fire1 anymore.

Zener, The work you provide is great.
Thanks !

I noticed under Winuae 4.2.1 slowdowns under RedPill.
Under Winuae 2.5.1, no slowdown.
However, the configuration under the WB is the same.
Which version do you use?

[Zener]

I am using 3.6.1, in the middle XD

[Yoz Montana]

Originally Posted by Zener

I am using 3.6.1, in the middle XD

Winuae 3.6.1, slowdown in RedPill.
For all project loaded, same result.

I tested on another computer. slowdown in RedPill.

Timecode : 6s -> 10s
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[Lemming880]

Oh, then I'm not the only one. I've also seen these slow downs in my project. The game slows down for a few seconds and than comes back to normal. It happens since a few months so it's not just the latest version. I haven't found a way to reproduce it. I know it often happens at the start of a level but it can also happen anytime during a level. I'm using winuae 4.0.1 so I don't think it's a winuae problem, but redpill's.

[Yoz Montana]

More information : slowdown in RedPill.
The slowdown is cyclical.
It repeats itself by a slow cycle then normal at a regular rate.

[Zener]

Originally Posted by Lemming880

Oh, then I'm not the only one. I've also seen these slow downs in my project. The game slows down for a few seconds and than comes back to normal. It happens since a few months so it's not just the latest version. I haven't found a way to reproduce it. I know it often happens at the start of a level but it can also happen anytime during a level. I'm using winuae 4.0.1 so I don't think it's a winuae problem, but redpill's.

Hi, if you send me the project I can debug in the WinUAE version you are using...if it is the tool I will be able to reproduce it.

[Yoz Montana]

Originally Posted by Zener

Hi, if you send me the project I can debug in the WinUAE version you are using...if it is the tool I will be able to reproduce it.

Hi Zener, the slowdown is done on all the projects even on the projects included in RedPill like astro, gravity, ect.

[Zener]

Ok, I don't have the problem on these projects. Is it happening on a real Amiga?

[Lemming880]

Yes I've seen it happen on real hardware (A1200). And you probably haven't seen it because it happens rarely. But I already saw it happen after 3 minutes of playing my project in 7.7. I haven't tested 7.7 further. Like I said, there's no way to reproduce it, it just happens randomly.

[Yoz Montana]

Originally Posted by Zener

Ok, I don't have the problem on these projects. Is it happening on a real Amiga?

Hi Zener,
My 030 accelerator card no longer works on my A1200.
I could not test on real Amiga, not enought of memory to launch RedPill.

After more test, i find the behavior in WinUAE :
CPU and FPU --> Check the box (0) "Approximate A500/1200 or cycle exact".
CPU Speed [+0%]
RedPill works very well but CPU 040 recommended

If you check the box (0) "Fastest possible", RedPill slowdown is cyclical.
Problem solved

[Yoz Montana]

Hi Zener,

The Next features important to RedPill :
1. 2 sprites sheets [ share the same palette ].
One for the players and another for the enemies.

Why this feature : More space for adding sprites, more secondary objects (vehicles, suit, ect), more larger objects, best gestion of caracters.

2. Autonomous animation loop in sprite sheets players and ennemies :

Why this feature : When I add sprites to the sprite sheets, all my mirror animations are shifted.
It is a brake in the addition of sprite and animation in the game. In addition, it is necessary to touch up the code and this is very tedious.
Wtih this feature, no shifted animations, no need to touch up the code.

3. Each level can have a different palette.

[Zener]

thanks for the suggestions, they are very appreciated. They are complicated to implement but I agree they would be a very good addition.

Number 3 is actually already implemented, you just need to set up the game to use more colors. For example, if your tiles are 16 colors and your sprites are 16 colors, you can set up the game to be a 32 color game. Then each level can have a different tileset with its own 16 color palette. Check this video at 1:10:00 or so: [ Show youtube player ]

Originally Posted by Yoz Montana

Hi Zener,

The Next features important to RedPill :
1. 2 sprites sheets [ share the same palette ].
One for the players and another for the enemies.

Why this feature : More space for adding sprites, more secondary objects (vehicles, suit, ect), more larger objects, best gestion of caracters.

2. Autonomous animation loop in sprite sheets players and ennemies :

Why this feature : When I add sprites to the sprite sheets, all my mirror animations are shifted.
It is a brake in the addition of sprite and animation in the game. In addition, it is necessary to touch up the code and this is very tedious.
Wtih this feature, no shifted animations, no need to touch up the code.

3. Each level can have a different palette.

[Yoz Montana]

Originally Posted by Zener

thanks for the suggestions, they are very appreciated. They are complicated to implement but I agree they would be a very good addition.

Number 3 is actually already implemented, you just need to set up the game to use more colors. For example, if your tiles are 16 colors and your sprites are 16 colors, you can set up the game to be a 32 color game. Then each level can have a different tileset with its own 16 color palette. Check this video at 1:10:00 or so: [ Show youtube player ]

For animation loops, you would have to program the loops in a table.
For each table matches to an animation loop.
Example: Players composed of 5 sprites
TabSprite:Array=[Sprite 1, Sprite 2, Sprite 3, Sprite 4, Sprite 5] Either a loop on the table of TabSprite[0] -> TabSprite[4].
We get an animation loop with this table.
After, we create a TabSpriteMirror mirror table by inverting the x data in the TabSprite table.

Number 3 : using with the same palette throughout the game or a separate palette for each level?

[Zener]

Separate palette for each level, not exactly, for each tileset. If you use a different tileset per level you will get a different palette per level.

Originally Posted by Yoz Montana

For animation loops, you would have to program the loops in a table.
For each table matches to an animation loop.
Example: Players composed of 5 sprites
TabSprite:Array=[Sprite 1, Sprite 2, Sprite 3, Sprite 4, Sprite 5] Either a loop on the table of TabSprite[0] -> TabSprite[4].
We get an animation loop with this table.
After, we create a TabSpriteMirror mirror table by inverting the x data in the TabSprite table.

Number 3 : using with the same palette throughout the game or a separate palette for each level?