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Maybe one is using RTG?
Anyways, it begs the question - what else is different? |
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And then one version uses different textures having higher resolutions? Not plausible.
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I also noticed the animation part where the female character is standing outside - One version has her in a traditional "T" pose with no hair blowing in the wind, the other has her arms in a different pose with hair blowing in the breeze. So the two demos are slightly different in that area too. not sure why myself,. Maybe a hint is in the credits. I think I noticed they were also slightly different.
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It only seems like that scene is different, I am betting the Amiga capture is the partyversion.
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Why would I? The only "insinuation" I had, was that the demo might have detected P96 on the Vampire and used different rendering technique for that. But even if so was the case, it still runs dead slow, nothing about this comparison puts the Vampire in any good light. For future comparisons, maybe side-by-side using the same binaries is a better approach than youtube videos that are years apart.
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I'm a little confused (surprise surprise).
Gunnar's thread (http://apollo-core.com/knowledge.php?b=4¬e=5931) says they have an FPU already implemented that just needs error-testing by some who knows 68k code. So I'm wondering why someone is implementing a soft FPU when that time could be spent finishing off the real one? (Sorry if the answer is obvious - I just would have thought the skill set that could do one task could do the other) Personally I'm appreciative of any efforts put into FPU development, all those guys are doing a cracking job, just seeking to minimise my ignorance. |
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When reading YOUR posts kolla, its a mixed bag of signals. Given the amount of knowledge you have, you defintly are a fan of the Amiga, but you have yourself said several times that you enjoy poking fun in other people. And what you think is funny, might provoke others and vice versa. Same as some people in the socalled Apollo Tribe. What they thought was just a lighthearted joke, has been taken in its worst meaning. And add to that the ungodly amount of hours the Apollo Team surely has sunk into this project, and you got the perfect setup for friction, espesially thru forums. Im pretty sure that if you guys had a chat on voice/in reallife, all the socalled conflict areas would have cleared up in 10-20 minutes. And then there are the few that just has decided to hate on Vampire no matter what. And the few that will attack anyone saying anything critical no matter what. In the past Ive been critical to this fact, but Ive started to understand why some more high visibility developers has removed themselves from posting on forums much. Its an excerise of pissing into the wind for the most part. |
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Gunnar is not working on FPU for current Vampire cards, he is way over in the next FPGA systems as far as FPU is concerned. There will not be any FPU implemented in Apollo Core for current Vampire cards.
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Back on topic please guys
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Apologies Sir!
I personally try to configure my Workbench to the point where I actually can use it for productivity. I personally see Gold 3+SoftFPU and Pamela to be a bit step in that direction based on the youtubes Ive seen so far. Im no longer much of a gamer, but rather spreadsheets, wordprocessing and the odd need to use graphics programs to insert into documents. Granted, given the power of LibreOffice, you can question the sanity of such an attempt, but for most tasks, the current programs do what they need to do. What they are missing is export/import filters to use them between Wintel and Amiga. Another major area thats lacking on AOS3.x is an updated PDF, both reader and creator. LibreOffice allows you to export to PDF directly, and thats THE must feature for me thru RL work. Much of the ackwardness of using productivity on Amiga is the fact that Ive gotten so used to Wintel GUI, so I actually have to force myself to get used to Workbench again. If you want to use the Amiga beyond benchmarking, you just have to make a decision to do so Last edited by Overflow; 14 July 2017 at 14:01. |
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I was hoping to use the Vampire A600 for sound and audio, but without a proper FPU that is just painful.
When SAGA is good enough, I will probably move it into an A1200 shell, add full keyboard and use it for old time 2D animation, exclusively. |
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