A1200 HD - how to boot from HD

HRMeinert · 27 April 2009, 19:53

Hi,

i just got an a 1200 HD from a friend of mine. I have some questions, maybe some one could light me up...

I started the amiga, it booted into WB but i got an error window that a wb disk is missing. So i asked my friend and he told me that i had to reinstall wb. So I did - after a i found out how to "activate" the HD. After that the 1200 don't boot into WB. I have to boot from WB disk. Where can i setup the boot sequenz? I tried both mousebuttons at startup but there I just can choose FD and CC not HD. I think i did something wrong

What wonders me, is that i had to use HDToolbox first, than i could choose the HD to install WB on...

The HD has 2 partitions on 8 MB for WB (I supose) and a second with 1,2gb for other stuff. I want to keep the "other" stuff.

I'm new to this so I'm trying... pls be gentle

BR

prowler · 27 April 2009, 20:04

Hi HRMeinert,

Have you got a full set of Workbench disks, including an Install disk?

prowler

HRMeinert · 27 April 2009, 21:45

Hi prowler,

yes I have, and i reinstalled WB 3.1. After I finished the installation the the a1200 booted into this purple "please insert a boot disk" screen instead of the wb

prowler · 27 April 2009, 22:01

I've never had a problem like this after installing Workbench 3.1 from a full disk set.

I'm guessing here, but is the hard drive jumpered as Master or single drive?

cosmicfrog · 27 April 2009, 22:07

what did you do in HDToolbox ?

was bootable ticked ? as well as mount ?

HRMeinert · 27 April 2009, 22:11

Hi Prowler,

i don't know for shure, but at my first start of the a1200, it booted from hd into wb - with an missing file error but booted...

So I'm guessing the HD is jumperd okay...

@ cosmicfrog

I did nothing, just playing around with. Bootable was ticked. What did you mean by mount? Ho do I mount?

prowler · 27 April 2009, 22:14

Another guess now...

8MB seems a bit small for a WB 3.1 boot hard drive. What free space do you have on the drive after installing Workbench?

HRMeinert · 27 April 2009, 22:20

i had about 3mb left...

cosmicfrog · 27 April 2009, 22:25

because when you say you pressed both mouse buttons you say theres no HD

so either its not had time to spin up
or the cables have come adrift
or mount is not selected in hdtools

prowler · 27 April 2009, 22:25

If you boot from the Workbench 3.1 floppy disk, can you see any hard disk drive on the desktop? If so, is it the 8MB partition, the 1.2GB partition or both?

HRMeinert · 27 April 2009, 22:29

@ cosmicfrog
I think the cables are okay, after playing around with HD-Tools (Not sure what i did) i could see both partitions on the desktop.

@ prowler
none of them. I have ramdisk and the workbench disk nothing else. But after playing around with HD-Tools i managed (don't now how) to make both partitions visible on the desktop.

cosmicfrog · 27 April 2009, 22:30

then my guess is mount is not selected in hdtools

prowler · 27 April 2009, 22:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by HRMeinert

...after playing around with HD-Tools i managed (don't now how) to make both partitions visible on the desktop.

So, does it boot to the hard drive now?

cosmicfrog · 27 April 2009, 22:40

going into hdtools will aoutomagical mount the drives so they can be seen by wb

had a similar problem with my 2 cf cards, bootin wb wouldt see 2nd card but after going into hdtools and out of it it was visible on wb

prowler · 27 April 2009, 22:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by cosmicfrog

going into hdtools will aoutomagical mount the drives so they can be seen by wb

had a similar problem with my 2 cf cards, bootin wb wouldt see 2nd card but after going into hdtools and out of it it was visible on wb

Is this your two CF cards in the single CF to IDE adapter? If so, what did you do eventually to fix it? (I have one of those adapters myself.)

HRMeinert · 28 April 2009, 08:07

@ prowler
not it won't boot at all...

@ cosmicfrog
how do i automount them at start up and boot from wb-partition?

€DIT
i'll check mount option in HD-Tools when i came back home. Keep you informed.

THNX

HRM

HRMeinert · 28 April 2009, 19:59

Okay, I rebooted and it booted into wb with a lot of read errors on my hdd. So I think the problem is, my hdd is broken

But I wanted to upgrade to CF anyway. Could some one of you point me to a good ide/cf adaper and card? Is there something i have to keep in mind when upgrading?

prowler · 28 April 2009, 22:20

Hi HRMeinert,

See this thread for a list of compatible CF cards:
http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=28249

And this thread for advice on using a CF card on A1200 IDE:
http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=25274

prowler

cosmicfrog · 28 April 2009, 23:23

so what did you do to get it to boot ?

have you tried formating it and copying wb back to it ?

HRMeinert · 30 April 2009, 23:21

Sorry, for my late response, was an a business trip.

I did nothing to boot from HDD... i just waited 2 days. Maybe it's the broken HDD.

@ prowler,

thanx for the links, I'll read this carefully, but i found an old notebook with an 4gb 2,5" hdd, I'll try this one. Maybe I have more luck with this one. I'll report back!

27 April 2009, 19:53	#1
HRMeinert Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 37	A1200 HD - how to boot from HD Hi, i just got an a 1200 HD from a friend of mine. I have some questions, maybe some one could light me up... I started the amiga, it booted into WB but i got an error window that a wb disk is missing. So i asked my friend and he told me that i had to reinstall wb. So I did - after a i found out how to "activate" the HD. After that the 1200 don't boot into WB. I have to boot from WB disk. Where can i setup the boot sequenz? I tried both mousebuttons at startup but there I just can choose FD and CC not HD. I think i did something wrong What wonders me, is that i had to use HDToolbox first, than i could choose the HD to install WB on... The HD has 2 partitions on 8 MB for WB (I supose) and a second with 1,2gb for other stuff. I want to keep the "other" stuff. I'm new to this so I'm trying... pls be gentle BR

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27 April 2009, 20:04	#2
prowler Global Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sidcup, England Posts: 10,300	Hi HRMeinert, Have you got a full set of Workbench disks, including an Install disk? prowler

27 April 2009, 21:45	#3
HRMeinert Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 37	Hi prowler, yes I have, and i reinstalled WB 3.1. After I finished the installation the the a1200 booted into this purple "please insert a boot disk" screen instead of the wb

27 April 2009, 22:01	#4
prowler Global Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sidcup, England Posts: 10,300	I've never had a problem like this after installing Workbench 3.1 from a full disk set. I'm guessing here, but is the hard drive jumpered as Master or single drive?

27 April 2009, 22:07	#5
cosmicfrog The 1 who ribbits Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: leek, Staffs, UK Age: 56 Posts: 3,557	what did you do in HDToolbox ? was bootable ticked ? as well as mount ?

27 April 2009, 22:11	#6
HRMeinert Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 37	Hi Prowler, i don't know for shure, but at my first start of the a1200, it booted from hd into wb - with an missing file error but booted... So I'm guessing the HD is jumperd okay... @ cosmicfrog I did nothing, just playing around with. Bootable was ticked. What did you mean by mount? Ho do I mount?

27 April 2009, 22:14	#7
prowler Global Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sidcup, England Posts: 10,300	Another guess now... 8MB seems a bit small for a WB 3.1 boot hard drive. What free space do you have on the drive after installing Workbench?

27 April 2009, 22:20	#8
HRMeinert Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 37	i had about 3mb left...

27 April 2009, 22:25	#9
cosmicfrog The 1 who ribbits Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: leek, Staffs, UK Age: 56 Posts: 3,557	because when you say you pressed both mouse buttons you say theres no HD so either its not had time to spin up or the cables have come adrift or mount is not selected in hdtools

27 April 2009, 22:29	#11
HRMeinert Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 37	@ cosmicfrog I think the cables are okay, after playing around with HD-Tools (Not sure what i did) i could see both partitions on the desktop. @ prowler none of them. I have ramdisk and the workbench disk nothing else. But after playing around with HD-Tools i managed (don't now how) to make both partitions visible on the desktop.

27 April 2009, 22:30	#12
cosmicfrog The 1 who ribbits Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: leek, Staffs, UK Age: 56 Posts: 3,557	then my guess is mount is not selected in hdtools

27 April 2009, 22:40	#14
cosmicfrog The 1 who ribbits Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: leek, Staffs, UK Age: 56 Posts: 3,557	going into hdtools will aoutomagical mount the drives so they can be seen by wb had a similar problem with my 2 cf cards, bootin wb wouldt see 2nd card but after going into hdtools and out of it it was visible on wb

28 April 2009, 08:07	#16
HRMeinert Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 37	@ prowler not it won't boot at all... @ cosmicfrog how do i automount them at start up and boot from wb-partition? €DIT i'll check mount option in HD-Tools when i came back home. Keep you informed. THNX HRM

28 April 2009, 19:59	#17
HRMeinert Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 37	Okay, I rebooted and it booted into wb with a lot of read errors on my hdd. So I think the problem is, my hdd is broken But I wanted to upgrade to CF anyway. Could some one of you point me to a good ide/cf adaper and card? Is there something i have to keep in mind when upgrading?

28 April 2009, 22:20	#18
prowler Global Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sidcup, England Posts: 10,300	Hi HRMeinert, See this thread for a list of compatible CF cards: http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=28249 And this thread for advice on using a CF card on A1200 IDE: http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=25274 prowler

28 April 2009, 23:23	#19
cosmicfrog The 1 who ribbits Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: leek, Staffs, UK Age: 56 Posts: 3,557	so what did you do to get it to boot ? have you tried formating it and copying wb back to it ?

30 April 2009, 23:21	#20
HRMeinert Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 37	Sorry, for my late response, was an a business trip. I did nothing to boot from HDD... i just waited 2 days. Maybe it's the broken HDD. @ prowler, thanx for the links, I'll read this carefully, but i found an old notebook with an 4gb 2,5" hdd, I'll try this one. Maybe I have more luck with this one. I'll report back!

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