The Dream Is Over - Page 2

Hungry Horace · 29 November 2010, 23:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cammy

I'm sure people who like Apple products, style over function, will like this new design.

what a cheap, and totally unrequired dig.

it's funny how there are so many media companies using Mac hardware because of the *added* productivity that is achieved by using them then, if they are so useless with 'function'.

I quite like the design - but then, i unusually like black and cyan.

I'll be very surprised to ever see it exist though.

Like Peter, i'd want to know that it's going to play Cannon Fodder et al.

edit: oh, i missed that it was a C= USA thing... no amiga then!

s2325 · 30 November 2010, 00:04

sorry for google translation:

Prysneły dreams like a soap bubble. Unfortunately, all the news about emerging products CommodoreUSA is one big fake, or rather a joke.

Pretty good joke, since both gained ppa.pl and seemed to be, professional services PClab.pl. And all by accident. I looked through old articles gazeta.pl and found this - quite an old article, because of the 19 March 2010.

An excerpt from "Of course I do not know what is true. However, a few things so strongly caught my eye, that despite the sympathy for the Commodore (exactly the Commodore 128, which was a breakthrough for me, after previous experience with the ZX Spectrum) I can not collapse the selective blindness.

Here's what I immediately zazgrzytało:

1. alleged product page, commodoreusa.net, is created on the knee in five minutes, with images taken from the live site Cybernetu, "intro" was created in the free service slide.com into the comments code appears Citymax,
2. CityMax.com, this site offers templates for websites, with free 10 dniowymi versions of sample tests,
3. the address indicates commodoreusa.citymax.com commodoreusa.net, or implied Colleague product, both of these addresses are staffed by servers in Vancouver, Canada, belonging to the same ISP
4. commodoreusa.net owner of the domain (registered yesterday, for the year) is a domain seller GoDaddy.com, and not any company, which reportedly has regained the rights to the name of Commodore.

For me the issue is not so much sewn with thick thread, as in ship ropes. A Canadian student ZPC-GX31 loved at first sight, bought for a few dollars from GoDaddy entitled to an annual use of the domain commodoreusa.net from Citymax took to try out the template, he waved his site, by Citymax bought (or also in an attempt to get) a piece of space network and the case. The beta version of the prima-aprilisowego joke on the network, and half of the world have written about it. Sam I am no better - after all, I write it. And before I saw the "product site" well, I was convinced that this is great news.

In total, author of the idea are due thanks for the reminder of the Commodore. I can pogrożenie finger - I think - unauthorized use of photos / specifications of an otherwise nice and oldschool ZPC-GX31 (you know, he has two built-in RS-232 ports and LPT Centroniksa ?!)."

The longer I read the less I wanted to believe it. But just look at the photo Commodore Phoenix - is the computer all-in-one ZPC-GX31. What's the difference? Trifles. Another logo, cleaned the heatsink that is pokolorowanymi logotype and ports.

The website is even a fake CommodoreUSA.net (converted?) User's guide, someone had put a lot of work in the hoax. I personally like it has stopped the publication of pictures C64x news Atreus - I looked at the source site, and captured a few small things - a completely different keyboard layout - visualization shows five function keys, cursor keys, a different layout, etc picture shows just the original C64 and for being the most popular picture on the Internet - the same is used on this website in top.

Thus, there will be implementation of the dreams of many fans of the old good old C64. Company CommodoreUSA, her party, and even doctored photos of a movie with so-called "unboxingu" is one big joke.

Paul_s · 30 November 2010, 00:47

The Dream may be over when Commodore died in 1994 but the nightmare continues!

PowerPie5000 · 30 November 2010, 01:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hungry Horace

what a cheap, and totally unrequired dig.

it's funny how there are so many media companies using Mac hardware

Lets be honest, Mac's these days are just over-priced Intel PC's. Basically Apple are charging more for hardware you would normally find in a cheaper Dell system... what can a Mac do that a PC can't?

Hungry Horace · 30 November 2010, 01:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by PowerPie5000

what can a Mac do that a PC can't?

Run a superior operating system (OSX). (and, no, Hackintosh is not an option on most hardware setups)

I'm not so blinkered as to say "all PCs are crap" or even "I'd never use windows" - i am surprised to find that anyone would be stupid enough to confess to doing the same the other-way around.

There is plenty more i could say on the matter, but it's severely off-topic.

skateblind · 30 November 2010, 02:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hungry Horace

Run a superior operating system (OSX). (and, no, Hackintosh is not an option on most hardware setups)

For me the problem is the cost. I won't pay those hardware prices just to run OSX. Their support for older machines/OSs are shameful too.

I would get one if I could afford it though.

coze · 30 November 2010, 02:49

dont like it, too "sharp" and glossy and dark ... I expect a warmer look from my amigas. this looks like one of those ridiculously expensive gaming pcs !

Cammy · 30 November 2010, 03:32

As soon as someone rests their wrists on the front of this thing it's going to flip over... or do people type with their arms hovering over the keyboard? You'd have to with those sharp edges and corners that would dig into your wrists.

Horace your argument is a bit weak, especially when you further point out that the main reason for using a Mac is the OS, which is also why so many media companies use them, not because they like the case design. Obviously when I made my post I was referring to those fanboys who use Apple products for their fashionable looks only, not because they prefer the operating system.

Hungry Horace · 30 November 2010, 08:01

sure, whatever. I pointed out 1 of my reasons, in response to a broadly sweeping generalisation (i.e. troll/baiting) about "people who like Apple products". If you must know, then yes, I also think Apple case-design is a cut above any Dell or other PC's, but i dont particularly feel the need to justify it any further.

gibs · 01 December 2010, 11:39

@Cammy don't worry for us (hungry horace & me)

We use OSX on Apple hardware the same reason people use the Workbench on an Amiga. If you have a culture in computers you should understand why...
But if you are enjoying Windows on a PC we are not going to criticize you or screaming that Microsoft is trash...

01 December 2010, 12:56

I think they should release a few (at least two) color versions, so everyone could chose. I like the classic design in beige color (at least i think it was beige

. And the second thing, shouldn't DVD drive be placed horizontally?

gilgamesh · 01 December 2010, 16:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hungry Horace

Run a superior operating system (OSX). (and, no, Hackintosh is not an option on most hardware setups)

OSX is a distribution of Darwin (free software) which in turn is a variant of FreeBSD (free software). You can also run Darwin and/or FreeBSD on cheap hardware.

EDIT: Did I get s2325's post correctly? They say it's all just a prank? Makes sense.

s2325 · 01 December 2010, 16:37

Yes, it's prank.

gibs · 02 December 2010, 09:30

Yeah...there are pranksters here.

s2325 · 24 December 2010, 22:43

http://www.pcworld.pl/news/365511/7/...omputerow.html sorry, I don't know how to translate it

TCD · 24 December 2010, 22:47

What about : http://translate.google.de/translate...n&hl=&ie=UTF-8 ?

ImmortalA1000 · 01 January 2011, 06:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hungry Horace

what a cheap, and totally unrequired dig.

it's funny how there are so many media companies using Mac hardware because of the *added* productivity that is achieved by using them then, if they are so useless with 'function'.

Because Commodore bankrupt themselves with crappy business decisions like A600 or CD32

Internet phones and touchpads that can't use flash based websites, MP3 players that had terrible MP3 playback quality, keyboards for desktop machines that are worse than the keyboards on my two non-Apple branded laptops here from 2005 lol he was spot on about style over substance.

As for the machine...what is it? Real Amiga motherboard in a new case? or more PC bollox to run WinUAE and never be able to load my original floppy disk games I own on it?

Hungry Horace · 01 January 2011, 13:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImmortalA1000

Internet phones and touchpads that can't use flash based websites, MP3 players that had terrible MP3 playback quality, keyboards for desktop machines that are worse than the keyboards on my two non-Apple branded laptops here from 2005 lol he was spot on about style over substance.

laptops that are as old as your argument?

yawn. YAWN.

gibs · 03 January 2011, 03:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImmortalA1000

MP3 players that had terrible MP3 playback quality

What do you smoke ?

blackcornflake · 18 January 2011, 21:15

Re the Commodore USA link: I don't keep track of geeky things much these days and I'm a bit confused. So a new company has bought the old Commodore name and now the Amiga name to go with it? Does this mean no more Amiga Inc in the sense of Bill McEwan's two-bit operation?

/me browses a bit more

Amiga OS 5?

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30 November 2010, 00:04	#22
s2325 Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Gargore Age: 43 Posts: 17,789	sorry for google translation: Prysneły dreams like a soap bubble. Unfortunately, all the news about emerging products CommodoreUSA is one big fake, or rather a joke. Pretty good joke, since both gained ppa.pl and seemed to be, professional services PClab.pl. And all by accident. I looked through old articles gazeta.pl and found this - quite an old article, because of the 19 March 2010. An excerpt from "Of course I do not know what is true. However, a few things so strongly caught my eye, that despite the sympathy for the Commodore (exactly the Commodore 128, which was a breakthrough for me, after previous experience with the ZX Spectrum) I can not collapse the selective blindness. Here's what I immediately zazgrzytało: 1. alleged product page, commodoreusa.net, is created on the knee in five minutes, with images taken from the live site Cybernetu, "intro" was created in the free service slide.com into the comments code appears Citymax, 2. CityMax.com, this site offers templates for websites, with free 10 dniowymi versions of sample tests, 3. the address indicates commodoreusa.citymax.com commodoreusa.net, or implied Colleague product, both of these addresses are staffed by servers in Vancouver, Canada, belonging to the same ISP 4. commodoreusa.net owner of the domain (registered yesterday, for the year) is a domain seller GoDaddy.com, and not any company, which reportedly has regained the rights to the name of Commodore. For me the issue is not so much sewn with thick thread, as in ship ropes. A Canadian student ZPC-GX31 loved at first sight, bought for a few dollars from GoDaddy entitled to an annual use of the domain commodoreusa.net from Citymax took to try out the template, he waved his site, by Citymax bought (or also in an attempt to get) a piece of space network and the case. The beta version of the prima-aprilisowego joke on the network, and half of the world have written about it. Sam I am no better - after all, I write it. And before I saw the "product site" well, I was convinced that this is great news. In total, author of the idea are due thanks for the reminder of the Commodore. I can pogrożenie finger - I think - unauthorized use of photos / specifications of an otherwise nice and oldschool ZPC-GX31 (you know, he has two built-in RS-232 ports and LPT Centroniksa ?!)." The longer I read the less I wanted to believe it. But just look at the photo Commodore Phoenix - is the computer all-in-one ZPC-GX31. What's the difference? Trifles. Another logo, cleaned the heatsink that is pokolorowanymi logotype and ports. The website is even a fake CommodoreUSA.net (converted?) User's guide, someone had put a lot of work in the hoax. I personally like it has stopped the publication of pictures C64x news Atreus - I looked at the source site, and captured a few small things - a completely different keyboard layout - visualization shows five function keys, cursor keys, a different layout, etc picture shows just the original C64 and for being the most popular picture on the Internet - the same is used on this website in top. Thus, there will be implementation of the dreams of many fans of the old good old C64. Company CommodoreUSA, her party, and even doctored photos of a movie with so-called "unboxingu" is one big joke.

30 November 2010, 00:47	#23
Paul_s Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Amigaville Age: 46 Posts: 3,336	The Dream may be over when Commodore died in 1994 but the nightmare continues!

30 November 2010, 02:49	#27
coze hastala vista winny vista Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: mt fuji Age: 46 Posts: 1,335	dont like it, too "sharp" and glossy and dark ... I expect a warmer look from my amigas. this looks like one of those ridiculously expensive gaming pcs !

30 November 2010, 03:32	#28
Cammy Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Tasmania, Australia Age: 39 Posts: 1,189	As soon as someone rests their wrists on the front of this thing it's going to flip over... or do people type with their arms hovering over the keyboard? You'd have to with those sharp edges and corners that would dig into your wrists. Horace your argument is a bit weak, especially when you further point out that the main reason for using a Mac is the OS, which is also why so many media companies use them, not because they like the case design. Obviously when I made my post I was referring to those fanboys who use Apple products for their fashionable looks only, not because they prefer the operating system.

30 November 2010, 08:01	#29
Hungry Horace Wipe-Out Enthusiast Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: . Age: 43 Posts: 2,544	sure, whatever. I pointed out 1 of my reasons, in response to a broadly sweeping generalisation (i.e. troll/baiting) about "people who like Apple products". If you must know, then yes, I also think Apple case-design is a cut above any Dell or other PC's, but i dont particularly feel the need to justify it any further.

01 December 2010, 11:39	#30
gibs Banned Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: france Posts: 932	@Cammy don't worry for us (hungry horace & me) We use OSX on Apple hardware the same reason people use the Workbench on an Amiga. If you have a culture in computers you should understand why... But if you are enjoying Windows on a PC we are not going to criticize you or screaming that Microsoft is trash...

01 December 2010, 12:56	#31
ariva Posts: n/a	I think they should release a few (at least two) color versions, so everyone could chose. I like the classic design in beige color (at least i think it was beige . And the second thing, shouldn't DVD drive be placed horizontally?

01 December 2010, 16:37	#33
s2325 Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Gargore Age: 43 Posts: 17,789	Yes, it's prank.

02 December 2010, 09:30	#34
gibs Banned Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: france Posts: 932	Yeah...there are pranksters here.

24 December 2010, 22:43	#35
s2325 Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Gargore Age: 43 Posts: 17,789	http://www.pcworld.pl/news/365511/7/...omputerow.html sorry, I don't know how to translate it

24 December 2010, 22:47	#36
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,668	What about : http://translate.google.de/translate...n&hl=&ie=UTF-8 ?

18 January 2011, 21:15	#40
blackcornflake Moderator Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Cereal box Posts: 794	Re the Commodore USA link: I don't keep track of geeky things much these days and I'm a bit confused. So a new company has bought the old Commodore name and now the Amiga name to go with it? Does this mean no more Amiga Inc in the sense of Bill McEwan's two-bit operation? /me browses a bit more Amiga OS 5?

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