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JOHNFIN · 31 October 2020, 03:25

Here are some pics of the roms I have avail. Should I use the rom and locations or the adf disc versions? Also which machine should I use for games, 500 1000 4000?,

Konrad · 31 October 2020, 07:39

There is no "OR".
ROM=CPU of the Amiga
ADF=game disc. You put those in virtual disc drives
Quickstart A500 is a good start

Point WinUAE to the ROMs folder.
When you choose quickstart option A500 then WinUAE should select the correct ROM automatically.
When you then boot the Amiga the hand+disc symbol should appear, prompting you to insert a disc.

Put the adf of the game you want to play in the virtual disc drive. The game should then load.

AMIGASYSTEM · 31 October 2020, 07:53

About Games from Quickstart you have to choose A500 for OCS/ECS games and A1200 for AGA games.

Foebane · 31 October 2020, 09:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Konrad

ROM=CPU of the Amiga

Not exactly. ROM works regardless of the CPU you have.

https://study.com/academy/lesson/rea...ypes-quiz.html

Quote:

It contains the basic instructions for what needs to happen when a computer is powered on. This is typically referred to as the firmware of a computer. The firmware represents the basic code to get the computer started. Once the computer is up and running, the CPU takes over. Firmware is also referred to as BIOS, or basic input/output system. On most modern computers, the read-only memory is located on a BIOS chip, shown on the left. The BIOS chip is normally plugged into the motherboard.

Konrad · 31 October 2020, 09:26

Thanks, but I dont need a technical discussion. Im well aware what a ROM is (and your quoted text doesnt reflect it all).
JOHNFIN doesnt seem to be very experienced, so I just wanted to explain it simple to get the emulation running.

Afterwards we can proceed with details and explain what a kickstart is. But I suggest to not make it difficult now with technical nitpicking.

Foebane · 31 October 2020, 09:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Konrad

Thanks, but I dont need a technical discussion. Im well aware what a ROM is (and your quoted text doesnt reflect it all).
JOHNFIN doesnt seem to be very experienced, so I just wanted to explain it simple to get the emulation running.

Afterwards we can proceed with details and explain what a kickstart is. But I suggest to not make it difficult now with technical nitpicking.

Fair enough.

JOHNFIN · 01 November 2020, 02:11

Ok, I give up. I spend half the night setting up the win uae using this guide, http://guide.abime.net/wb3.1/chap1.htm, and it didnt work and.... the setting didnt keep and there is no save button. I just need to find a real amiga.

Konrad · 01 November 2020, 10:19

Forget the guide for now. This is too advanced with harddrive setup.

When you choose A500 in quickstart and then press Start, then the Amiga should boot up and show the disc symbol.

Please try and tell us if that worked. We will work from there.

chip · 01 November 2020, 10:34

Yep, don't give up johnfin ..... is not that difficult to use WinUAE

roondar · 01 November 2020, 12:30

If you don't like WinUAE, there are some alternatives which might be easier to use. There's FS-UAE which has a simpler interface. And there's also Amiga forever, which is basically "click and play", though that costs money.

Now I love WinUAE, but I can see why some might find the interface to be tricky. It's such a powerful program, which is why it has so many settings and options.

JOHNFIN · 01 November 2020, 19:10

What is a500 quickstart. I just see one program, winuae and I run it. How do you save the parameters so you dont have to keep setting things?

Konrad · 01 November 2020, 19:18

When you start WinUAE then a menu appears. In the left column you can choose Quickstart. Click on it and select Amiga 500.
In this menu you can also savev and load settings, adjust controls, graphics settings, harddisks,...

If no menu appears you did something wrong and should delete the default cfg.

Look at this link, first screenshot:
http://guide.abime.net/gguides/winuaea.htm

Aardvark · 02 November 2020, 00:02

I think referring to the official documentation would be better than 14 years old guide.

https://www.vware.at/winuaehelp/Quickstart.html

https://www.vware.at/winuaehelp/Configurations.html

JOHNFIN · 03 November 2020, 01:18

Ok I used the quickstart and loaded a game. It ran, slow but it was ok. So now I am getting the hang of it. How can I SAVE the parameters so that I dont keep getting a rom error message?

Aardvark · 03 November 2020, 04:11

Go to Paths tab, and click Rescan ROMs. Quickstart shouldn't give any missing rom errors if the scan found everything.

Konrad · 03 November 2020, 07:55

Games like f.ex. CastleMaster or WingCommander ARE slow, although my memories said different ;-). So it depends on the game you're trying.

The quickstart settings work well. As long as the sound doesn't stutter you should be ok with the speed. Which games did you try?

In the left column "Configurations" you can save and load settings. You can also save multiple configs. That may be neccessary depending on what you want to play and emulate (A500, A1200 with harddisk, controller settings,...).

And which error message do you get for the ROMs? Can you attach a screenshot?

JOHNFIN · 03 November 2020, 13:45

I did a screen shot in a previous thread above. Its the one about the rom cant be found.

31 October 2020, 03:25	#21
JOHNFIN Registered User Join Date: Oct 2020 Location: tampa, florida Posts: 13	rom Here are some pics of the roms I have avail. Should I use the rom and locations or the adf disc versions? Also which machine should I use for games, 500 1000 4000?, Attached Thumbnails

31 October 2020, 09:26	#25
Konrad Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Germany Age: 43 Posts: 742	Thanks, but I dont need a technical discussion. Im well aware what a ROM is (and your quoted text doesnt reflect it all). JOHNFIN doesnt seem to be very experienced, so I just wanted to explain it simple to get the emulation running. Afterwards we can proceed with details and explain what a kickstart is. But I suggest to not make it difficult now with technical nitpicking. Last edited by Konrad; 31 October 2020 at 09:33.

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31 October 2020, 07:39	#22
Konrad Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Germany Age: 43 Posts: 742	There is no "OR". ROM=CPU of the Amiga ADF=game disc. You put those in virtual disc drives Quickstart A500 is a good start Point WinUAE to the ROMs folder. When you choose quickstart option A500 then WinUAE should select the correct ROM automatically. When you then boot the Amiga the hand+disc symbol should appear, prompting you to insert a disc. Put the adf of the game you want to play in the virtual disc drive. The game should then load.

31 October 2020, 07:53	#23
AMIGASYSTEM Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Brindisi (Italy) Age: 70 Posts: 8,248	About Games from Quickstart you have to choose A500 for OCS/ECS games and A1200 for AGA games.

01 November 2020, 02:11	#27
JOHNFIN Registered User Join Date: Oct 2020 Location: tampa, florida Posts: 13	Ok, I give up. I spend half the night setting up the win uae using this guide, http://guide.abime.net/wb3.1/chap1.htm, and it didnt work and.... the setting didnt keep and there is no save button. I just need to find a real amiga.

01 November 2020, 10:19	#28
Konrad Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Germany Age: 43 Posts: 742	Forget the guide for now. This is too advanced with harddrive setup. When you choose A500 in quickstart and then press Start, then the Amiga should boot up and show the disc symbol. Please try and tell us if that worked. We will work from there.

01 November 2020, 10:34	#29
chip Registered User Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Italy Age: 49 Posts: 2,942	Yep, don't give up johnfin ..... is not that difficult to use WinUAE

01 November 2020, 12:30	#30
roondar Registered User Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 3,410	If you don't like WinUAE, there are some alternatives which might be easier to use. There's FS-UAE which has a simpler interface. And there's also Amiga forever, which is basically "click and play", though that costs money. Now I love WinUAE, but I can see why some might find the interface to be tricky. It's such a powerful program, which is why it has so many settings and options.

01 November 2020, 19:10	#31
JOHNFIN Registered User Join Date: Oct 2020 Location: tampa, florida Posts: 13	What is a500 quickstart. I just see one program, winuae and I run it. How do you save the parameters so you dont have to keep setting things?

01 November 2020, 19:18	#32
Konrad Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Germany Age: 43 Posts: 742	When you start WinUAE then a menu appears. In the left column you can choose Quickstart. Click on it and select Amiga 500. In this menu you can also savev and load settings, adjust controls, graphics settings, harddisks,... If no menu appears you did something wrong and should delete the default cfg. Look at this link, first screenshot: http://guide.abime.net/gguides/winuaea.htm

02 November 2020, 00:02	#33
Aardvark Registered User Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Finland Posts: 634	I think referring to the official documentation would be better than 14 years old guide. https://www.vware.at/winuaehelp/Quickstart.html https://www.vware.at/winuaehelp/Configurations.html

03 November 2020, 01:18	#34
JOHNFIN Registered User Join Date: Oct 2020 Location: tampa, florida Posts: 13	Ok I used the quickstart and loaded a game. It ran, slow but it was ok. So now I am getting the hang of it. How can I SAVE the parameters so that I dont keep getting a rom error message?

03 November 2020, 04:11	#35
Aardvark Registered User Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Finland Posts: 634	Go to Paths tab, and click Rescan ROMs. Quickstart shouldn't give any missing rom errors if the scan found everything.

03 November 2020, 07:55	#36
Konrad Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Germany Age: 43 Posts: 742	Games like f.ex. CastleMaster or WingCommander ARE slow, although my memories said different ;-). So it depends on the game you're trying. The quickstart settings work well. As long as the sound doesn't stutter you should be ok with the speed. Which games did you try? In the left column "Configurations" you can save and load settings. You can also save multiple configs. That may be neccessary depending on what you want to play and emulate (A500, A1200 with harddisk, controller settings,...). And which error message do you get for the ROMs? Can you attach a screenshot?

03 November 2020, 13:45	#37
JOHNFIN Registered User Join Date: Oct 2020 Location: tampa, florida Posts: 13	I did a screen shot in a previous thread above. Its the one about the rom cant be found.

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