Magic Pockets remake - work started - Page 7

jotd · 03 June 2017, 22:40

Small update: re-did world 1, levels 1, 3, 4, 5, but this time for Amiga WHDLoad version.

Check full working archive in the zone (with updated slave able to read external level 1 files)

turrican3 · 04 June 2017, 04:48

really great jotd but the intro music is strange, it's like if the music is cut by piece, really different than the original.

jotd · 04 June 2017, 09:25

it the ntsc version with passwords. set ntsc tooltype or music isn t properly timed (maybe I could fix that)

Gzegzolka · 05 June 2017, 14:07

Cool work ^^ those levels are fun to play. I would love to see more of them.

jotd · 05 June 2017, 16:28

thanks. Starting the work on the jungle levels. Those levels can be seen as mods more than brand new levels, because of the constraints of hardcoded stuff in the game:

teleport locations & timers, level 1.2 zones, and also somehow the start locations which can be changed but require some work to move the level start letters. Also shuffling the sub-levels requires a lot of extra work, and the modding itself takes a lot of time so let's start with that. We'll see if some more modded levels can be done. I doubt there's room for 45 sets of levels. The game is still the same after all. It's just that people really used to the game will love seeing new levels after 26 years.

Note that I may release my level editor to the public. It's rather simple to use. But my experience with other level editors show me that there aren't that many people willing to spend a lot of time designing new levels.

BTW: Anyone knows Sean Griffiths personally? I found him on LinkedIn but didn't dare contacting him.

JohnnyWalker · 04 September 2019, 02:06

Wow, sorry digging up and old thread, but just wondering how this ended up. You should totally contact Sean Griffiths, btw.

jotd · 04 September 2019, 21:33

I may contact him, yes. This ended up, well, not too far. I ended up recycling the levels editor to generate levels at the original format to run on the original game.

I created a full level 1 (5 sub-levels). This level 1 is playable on the PC version and also on the whdload version (custom levels included in the latest release where 2nd button is also supported for jump). I also created 1 or 2 jungle levels but didn't publish them.

The remake is visually much better with more colors & detailed graphics, but lacking original source code & enemy behaviour, specially for levels 2 to 4 (level 1 is pretty well covered) and it's a huge commitment to complete that.

trydowave · 05 September 2019, 03:38

I think the graphics are fine in mp. It always needed in game music.

Photon · 05 September 2019, 16:41

So... you're remaking it to make an existing, released game run slower?

Or just an exercise?

jotd · 05 September 2019, 19:22

@Photon sorry? I don't understand. Who talked about doing something slower?

I remade it to add 24bit colors / HD + possibility to add new levels + Nintendo DS port.

But finally, I put that on hold, and used the editor to generate compatible levels for the original engine.

JohnnyWalker · 06 September 2019, 00:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by jotd

I may contact him, yes.

Not many people are going to contact him, letting him know how much they appreciate his work, or even asking him about it. He's not a superstar being stopped in the street, he'll genuinely appreciate recognition for his work, like anyone would.

Photon · 06 September 2019, 03:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by jotd

@Photon sorry? I don't understand. Who talked about doing something slower?

I remade it to add 24bit colors / HD + possibility to add new levels + Nintendo DS port.

But finally, I put that on hold, and used the editor to generate compatible levels for the original engine.

Nvm, thought it was a remake for Amiga. Disregard.

jotd · 06 September 2019, 19:29

Aha

I could build it with SDL/C++ for amiga... I let you imagine the sluggishness of that.

I already attempted to port my Bagman SDL remake. It works, but slooooow except in WinUAE (what's the point ?

)

Retro-Nerd · 06 November 2019, 18:34

Have you ever tried the unlicensed Mega Drive port from JoshProd? Much better scrolling.

edit: argh, no. I thought it was better. Pretty similar to the Amiga version. Still a 25fps game on the MD as it seems.

jotd · 06 November 2019, 19:06

" unlicensed Mega Drive port " WTF looks 100% the same as amiga. Do you have some details? Unlicensed but either it's super reverse engineering or it's licensed. Unlicensed + Bitmap Bros + commercial isn't a good equation. Mike Montgommery is protecting the IP and suing everyone selling or even giving away BB games (remember CD32 Bitmap Bros collection...)

Retro-Nerd · 06 November 2019, 19:15

Well, found a rom dump with the (unl) tag. JoshProd released some computer games as console ports.

http://readretro.com/commodore-amiga...-sega-genesis/

[ Show youtube player ]

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Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,436	Have you ever tried the unlicensed Mega Drive port from JoshProd? Much better scrolling. edit: argh, no. I thought it was better. Pretty similar to the Amiga version. Still a 25fps game on the MD as it seems. Last edited by Retro-Nerd; 06 November 2019 at 18:59.

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03 June 2017, 22:40	#121
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,162	Small update: re-did world 1, levels 1, 3, 4, 5, but this time for Amiga WHDLoad version. Check full working archive in the zone (with updated slave able to read external level 1 files)

04 June 2017, 04:48	#122
turrican3 Moon 1969 = amiga 1985 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: belgium Age: 48 Posts: 3,913	really great jotd but the intro music is strange, it's like if the music is cut by piece, really different than the original.

04 June 2017, 09:25	#123
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,162	it the ntsc version with passwords. set ntsc tooltype or music isn t properly timed (maybe I could fix that)

05 June 2017, 14:07	#124
Gzegzolka Registered User Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Warszawa / Polska Posts: 1,858	Cool work ^^ those levels are fun to play. I would love to see more of them.

05 June 2017, 16:28	#125
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,162	thanks. Starting the work on the jungle levels. Those levels can be seen as mods more than brand new levels, because of the constraints of hardcoded stuff in the game: teleport locations & timers, level 1.2 zones, and also somehow the start locations which can be changed but require some work to move the level start letters. Also shuffling the sub-levels requires a lot of extra work, and the modding itself takes a lot of time so let's start with that. We'll see if some more modded levels can be done. I doubt there's room for 45 sets of levels. The game is still the same after all. It's just that people really used to the game will love seeing new levels after 26 years. Note that I may release my level editor to the public. It's rather simple to use. But my experience with other level editors show me that there aren't that many people willing to spend a lot of time designing new levels. BTW: Anyone knows Sean Griffiths personally? I found him on LinkedIn but didn't dare contacting him.

04 September 2019, 02:06	#126
JohnnyWalker aka ThunderPeel2001 Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: UK Age: 45 Posts: 303	Wow, sorry digging up and old thread, but just wondering how this ended up. You should totally contact Sean Griffiths, btw.

04 September 2019, 21:33	#127
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,162	I may contact him, yes. This ended up, well, not too far. I ended up recycling the levels editor to generate levels at the original format to run on the original game. I created a full level 1 (5 sub-levels). This level 1 is playable on the PC version and also on the whdload version (custom levels included in the latest release where 2nd button is also supported for jump). I also created 1 or 2 jungle levels but didn't publish them. The remake is visually much better with more colors & detailed graphics, but lacking original source code & enemy behaviour, specially for levels 2 to 4 (level 1 is pretty well covered) and it's a huge commitment to complete that.

05 September 2019, 03:38	#128
trydowave Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: N/A Posts: 873	I think the graphics are fine in mp. It always needed in game music.

05 September 2019, 16:41	#129
Photon Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Eksjö / Sweden Posts: 5,602	So... you're remaking it to make an existing, released game run slower? Or just an exercise?

05 September 2019, 19:22	#130
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,162	@Photon sorry? I don't understand. Who talked about doing something slower? I remade it to add 24bit colors / HD + possibility to add new levels + Nintendo DS port. But finally, I put that on hold, and used the editor to generate compatible levels for the original engine.

06 September 2019, 19:29	#133
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,162	Aha I could build it with SDL/C++ for amiga... I let you imagine the sluggishness of that. I already attempted to port my Bagman SDL remake. It works, but slooooow except in WinUAE (what's the point ? )

06 November 2019, 19:06	#135
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,162	" unlicensed Mega Drive port " WTF looks 100% the same as amiga. Do you have some details? Unlicensed but either it's super reverse engineering or it's licensed. Unlicensed + Bitmap Bros + commercial isn't a good equation. Mike Montgommery is protecting the IP and suing everyone selling or even giving away BB games (remember CD32 Bitmap Bros collection...)

06 November 2019, 19:15	#136
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,436	Well, found a rom dump with the (unl) tag. JoshProd released some computer games as console ports. http://readretro.com/commodore-amiga...-sega-genesis/ [ Show youtube player ]

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