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Old 07 May 2018, 16:05   #1841
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Yeah, not using the >NIL: redirection on the startup-sequence will give you an iPrefs error regarding it being able to change screen because the Shell window is open. Do not remove it.
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Old 12 May 2018, 11:27   #1842
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Thank you all for explanation.

I have further questions regarding startup-sequences.
(Hard to find explanations online.)

1. What is "T:"?
(Maybe for temporary files?)

2. What is "ENV:"?

3. What is the effect of "Setpatch"?

Looking forward to your replies.
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Old 12 May 2018, 11:59   #1843
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Probably better if some expert answers these, my responses will be basic:

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1. What is "T:"?
(Maybe for temporary files?)
Yeah, it's a temporary location. Usually when you execute a script it will output a log to RAM:T.

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2. What is "ENV:"?
I believe it's where environment settings go.

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3. What is the effect of "Setpatch"?
I believe it patches stuff loaded from the ROM / OS.
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Old 14 May 2018, 06:06   #1844
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Thank you Damien.

Please, someone of the coders or experts, I like to have more detailed information about questions 2 and 3. Question 1 is done.
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Old 14 May 2018, 06:19   #1845
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The workings of ENV: are explained in the manual. Basically, it is a copy of SYS:Prefs/Env-Archive on the RAM disk and holds various settings. Any changes within ENV: are wiped after a reboot, for permanent changes the assign ENVARC: points to the hard drive.

SetPatch works as Damian said. The Kickstart ROM itself can not be updated (except of course by physically swapping it out), but once the system has booted, patches can be loaded into RAM and they override the old functions in the ROM.
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Question 2 done. Thank you.

Should I use the Setpatch command generally in every startup-sequence at all events?
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Old 14 May 2018, 07:35   #1847
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If you don't need the functionality added / fixed by SetPatch, you don't need to use it. Generally won't make any difference with a game, for example.
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For general use though, Setpatch is a good idea. Some updates are important, for example the scsi.device updates from OS 3.9 (if not taken care of elsewhere), and it also performs other functions like enabling AGA screenmodes for system-friendly apps (though games don't need it to use AGA as they bang the hardware) and loading CPU-specific libraries if you have an '040 or '060.
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Yes, Setpatch is usually a good idea.
When I first moved to 3.x I also thought "what is this this is useless I'm gonna axe it" but then I realized that was a foolish thing to do
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Now I know what to do. Thank you for explanations.
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Old 14 May 2018, 19:52   #1851
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And the next question. This time another topic.

I know Tosec naming convention, but couldnt find the answer.

Some ADF games have "M3" or "M4" or "M5" in their names.

What does it mean?
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And the next question. This time another topic.

I know Tosec naming convention, but couldnt find the answer.

Some ADF games have "M3" or "M4" or "M5" in their names.

What does it mean?
Irrc it indicates how many languages are available in game. So M5 has 5 selectable languages in that release.
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I didnt expect that. But now its clear to me.

No further questions. Thank you all.
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Old 15 May 2018, 17:03   #1854
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TOSEC Naming Convention
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What do the little blue worms say at the start of the game Stormlord?

is it "I don't care" ?
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Old 20 May 2018, 11:02   #1856
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To me it sounds like "oh yeah". It could also be "yanny" or "laurel".
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It could also be "yanny" or "laurel".
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I hear something like "Oh, you" or "Oh, ew"
But I have the feeling there is something else at the end. "Oh, youth" maybe?


I have put the sample, the sample slowed down to 75% and to 50% in the Zone in case some other people want to take a guess. In case we get a lot of answers we will be moving these to another thread.
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