Pinball Fantasies Theme Remix (Orchestral/Movielike)

trackah123 · 22 January 2007, 08:51

Hi guys.

I'm currently working on a movie/orchestral kind of remix from the pinball fantasies theme. I'm planning to send this to amigaremix.com but the submission system is not very fast. and i really like some feedback on my song. its not finished yet but i am getting there.

i hope i put this song in the right section of forum and hopefully its allowed to? i have read the FAQ.

http://www.xtremesr.com/trackah123/fantasiesmovie.mp3

StingRay · 26 January 2007, 10:45

I've just listened, it's not bad but somehow it lacks the "drive" the original had, i.e. I find it a bit boring. But that might just be me. It's a nicely arranged track anyway.

RCK · 26 January 2007, 12:45

nice track

Maybe it could be more punchy, but I suspect we are pollute by the original one.

trackah123 · 26 January 2007, 14:27

yeah its hard to convert this original songbeat to a movietheme kind of beat. so i had to improvise a bit. especially the scratchy sounds in the original song i have no idea how to put that in a movietheme. i would need some good and modern high quality sounds for that.

also the bpm (tempo) of the original song is to fast for a movietheme so i needed to slow it down a bit. (especially the mid and end part of the original song)

while the melody is not that hard to make it movietheme like

Hungry Horace · 26 January 2007, 16:11

it sounds excellently composed, although i'm not very keen on some of the sounds.... they sound like some kind of workstation (trinity, triton or something like that) and i'm never very keen on those sorts of sounds, as to me they sound a bit generic.

The one it does best is the choral thing, although that's a little too loud in the mix during the "second" section, as you are drowning out the little synthy detail bits in the background... stuff like strings work wel on such machines, but i am not too keen on the timpany sound myself, or the oboe (i assume that's what it is?)

anyway, it still sounds well mixed and the like, just a few changes i would put in myself, although it's all objective... you are clearly achieving the right kind of result for what you are after with this. nice work!

trackah123 · 26 January 2007, 16:17

most sounds come from this vsti plugin

http://www.philharmonik.com/Main.html?prod_MP
its the best orchestral vsti i could find.

and some i did with steinberg hypersonic vsti.

i composed it in renoise (www.renoise.com)

its hard to make it all sound "natural" and well mixed. compressors/limiters and eq etc. to me mastering the whole song is the hardest part of all. i can spent litteraly hours changing knobs and sliders

until i get about the desired result i want.

Hungry Horace · 26 January 2007, 18:13

as a rule of thumb, mastering and mixing shouldnt really be done by the same person

but that applies more to professional pieces... where some bugger can pick up the bill for the mastering engineer!

the fact you are using VST instuments explains my problem with the "sound" then.... as i am a firm beleiver in real hardware over software everytime... you -can- hear the difference.

trackah123 · 26 January 2007, 18:15

yes i know .. hardware is better.. but unfortunately im not that rich. in my country it costs so much its insane.

thats why im using software.. and tbh nowadays it doesnt sound that bad.

gimbal · 26 January 2007, 20:02

Well I'm not such a spoiled brat as these other dudes, I really like that tune. I actually stopped working for a moment and just listened to it.

Great job!

Hungry Horace · 27 January 2007, 19:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by gimbal

Well I'm not such a spoiled brat as these other dudes, I really like that tune. I actually stopped working for a moment and just listened to it.

hey, some criticsim was asked for, and i gave it.... i still the tune, and said as much, its just a personal preference of mine that i dont like the sound of much software synthesis, and so i;m likely to point that out.

there's no need to be rude for the sake of it.

p.s. a little bit of hardware is not that expensive these days. some of the money spent on Amigas on this forum would easily buy a very nice bit of kit.

StingRay · 27 January 2007, 23:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by gimbal

Well I'm not such a spoiled brat as these other dudes, I really like that tune. I actually stopped working for a moment and just listened to it.

Great job!

Why am I a spoiled brat when I give honest feedback? You should really watch your language...

gimbal · 28 January 2007, 00:09

Ha ha, damn me for not adding smileys to all my posts. Don't take me so seriously please.

Paul_s · 28 January 2007, 01:18

Nice work, not the usual carp you hear these days..

I like

trackah123 · 28 January 2007, 02:54

thx

still working hard on it. 4 patterns/tracks took me like 2 to 3 hours lol. progress is slow but i'm getting there.

anyway let me say this in general. plz give feedback on the music. not on each other

to avoid misunderstandings

22 January 2007, 08:51	#1
trackah123 Amiga User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Delft / The Netherlands Posts: 327	Pinball Fantasies Theme Remix (Orchestral/Movielike) Hi guys. I'm currently working on a movie/orchestral kind of remix from the pinball fantasies theme. I'm planning to send this to amigaremix.com but the submission system is not very fast. and i really like some feedback on my song. its not finished yet but i am getting there. i hope i put this song in the right section of forum and hopefully its allowed to? i have read the FAQ. http://www.xtremesr.com/trackah123/fantasiesmovie.mp3

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26 January 2007, 10:45	#2
StingRay move.l #$c0ff33,throat Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Berlin/Joymoney Posts: 6,863	I've just listened, it's not bad but somehow it lacks the "drive" the original had, i.e. I find it a bit boring. But that might just be me. It's a nicely arranged track anyway.

26 January 2007, 12:45	#3
RCK Administrator Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Paris / France Age: 45 Posts: 3,091	nice track Maybe it could be more punchy, but I suspect we are pollute by the original one.

26 January 2007, 14:27	#4
trackah123 Amiga User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Delft / The Netherlands Posts: 327	yeah its hard to convert this original songbeat to a movietheme kind of beat. so i had to improvise a bit. especially the scratchy sounds in the original song i have no idea how to put that in a movietheme. i would need some good and modern high quality sounds for that. also the bpm (tempo) of the original song is to fast for a movietheme so i needed to slow it down a bit. (especially the mid and end part of the original song) while the melody is not that hard to make it movietheme like

26 January 2007, 16:11	#5
Hungry Horace Wipe-Out Enthusiast Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: . Age: 43 Posts: 2,538	it sounds excellently composed, although i'm not very keen on some of the sounds.... they sound like some kind of workstation (trinity, triton or something like that) and i'm never very keen on those sorts of sounds, as to me they sound a bit generic. The one it does best is the choral thing, although that's a little too loud in the mix during the "second" section, as you are drowning out the little synthy detail bits in the background... stuff like strings work wel on such machines, but i am not too keen on the timpany sound myself, or the oboe (i assume that's what it is?) anyway, it still sounds well mixed and the like, just a few changes i would put in myself, although it's all objective... you are clearly achieving the right kind of result for what you are after with this. nice work!

26 January 2007, 16:17	#6
trackah123 Amiga User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Delft / The Netherlands Posts: 327	most sounds come from this vsti plugin http://www.philharmonik.com/Main.html?prod_MP its the best orchestral vsti i could find. and some i did with steinberg hypersonic vsti. i composed it in renoise (www.renoise.com) its hard to make it all sound "natural" and well mixed. compressors/limiters and eq etc. to me mastering the whole song is the hardest part of all. i can spent litteraly hours changing knobs and sliders until i get about the desired result i want.

26 January 2007, 18:13	#7
Hungry Horace Wipe-Out Enthusiast Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: . Age: 43 Posts: 2,538	as a rule of thumb, mastering and mixing shouldnt really be done by the same person but that applies more to professional pieces... where some bugger can pick up the bill for the mastering engineer! the fact you are using VST instuments explains my problem with the "sound" then.... as i am a firm beleiver in real hardware over software everytime... you -can- hear the difference.

26 January 2007, 18:15	#8
trackah123 Amiga User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Delft / The Netherlands Posts: 327	yes i know .. hardware is better.. but unfortunately im not that rich. in my country it costs so much its insane. thats why im using software.. and tbh nowadays it doesnt sound that bad.

26 January 2007, 20:02	#9
gimbal cheeky scoundrel Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Spijkenisse/Netherlands Age: 42 Posts: 6,919	Well I'm not such a spoiled brat as these other dudes, I really like that tune. I actually stopped working for a moment and just listened to it. Great job!

28 January 2007, 00:09	#12
gimbal cheeky scoundrel Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Spijkenisse/Netherlands Age: 42 Posts: 6,919	Ha ha, damn me for not adding smileys to all my posts. Don't take me so seriously please.

28 January 2007, 01:18	#13
Paul_s Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Amigaville Age: 46 Posts: 3,336	Nice work, not the usual carp you hear these days.. I like

28 January 2007, 02:54	#14
trackah123 Amiga User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Delft / The Netherlands Posts: 327	thx still working hard on it. 4 patterns/tracks took me like 2 to 3 hours lol. progress is slow but i'm getting there. anyway let me say this in general. plz give feedback on the music. not on each other to avoid misunderstandings

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